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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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Are they a good or bad idea ?

I know Ford put them on as standard but has anyone that runs without one actually snapped a belt due to a stone etc ?

I have a friend that races a pinto powered outlaw on gravel and he wont use one. He reckons the chance of debris damaging the belt is greater with one on as if anything does get around the cover it fly’s around inside until it does do some damage. Without the cover the chances are the debris will pass through and not cause a problem.

If the cossie one was a good fit I would deffo fit it, but certain parts look quite exposed anyhow, I guess it may only be there to keep fingers out of moving parts …

What do you think / do ?

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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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I have never ever had one fitted on my competition cars and not had a single problem. (fate of death now lol)
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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it's there for a reason, just because you don't know anyone who's had an engine trashed because of it doesn't mean it's not going to happen

it's like saying you don't know anyone who's been trampled to death by an elephant, but you know it happens on the odd occasion
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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Im in two minds here, i say on because i nearly got my finger tore of when i touched the cam pulley while the engine was running 8 stiches late and no nail

But then i say of because i noticed my cam pulley bolt was loose a few months later, while doing some cleaning ( should`ve been tight tho, my fault)

so then i would have to say its up to yourself, depends how lucky you feel or dont feel
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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Lets be realistic here chaps, its better to be safe than sorry, and I have seen them in an array of orientations too, chrome, carbon fibre, anodised etc so it will look good which ever you chose.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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I won't run without one. Never.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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I ran my rs turbo with it off.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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Why? why take the risk?
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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If you have a nice set of vernier pulleys on its a crime to cover them but other wise cover on
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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When i bought my saph it was off but was advised to put it on which i did
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by James
Why? why take the risk?
Jamsport took it off when i went for a tune up lol
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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what? and said nah you don't need that bit mate so we binned it?!
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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Put it in the boot
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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just from my own experience from a good few years of road cars and rally cars, I have never seen belt damage on exposed belts - obviously it is possible and somewhere it will have happened. However ironically I have seen the results of a debris that got INSIDE a fitted cover We took the cover off to find reinforcing threads hanging out of the belt all the way round and had obviously been like it some time.
At least if the cover is off you will see any damage very quickly, rather than in 30K miles time when it's time to check the belt as in our case...
It's unlikely that a small stone or whatever will actually break the belt, it will punch a hole in it possibly, but if you see the damage you can do something about it..

I guess I'm saying it's unlikely to make much odds either way, but if anything does happen to the belt (including it goes slack or whatever) you will get to see it quickly with the cover off.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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I don't run one on my S2. I like being able to see the state of things. Hidden away under a cover it's almost an out of sight out of mind mentality with some people.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
I don't run one on my S2. I like being able to see the state of things. Hidden away under a cover it's almost an out of sight out of mind mentality with some people.
Not me !!!!! I check everything
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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seem to be the norm on cossies...no cover.

i don't run one even though i have a carbon fibre one,decent one too.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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dave fancy selling it mate


i wanna run one to match my carbon heat sheild


oh and to protect the bell from green flies ect
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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I dont run one either

Should really as if something was to come up from the road and wrap its self round the belt

But cant be arsed fitting it


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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by b19bal
dave fancy selling it mate
don't want to sell it,may be going on,if not you can have first choice on it.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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if you dont wanna sell it then just give it away to me



the ONLY person who should have fitted a cambelt cover iis bigwig and thats only cause ONE time he made the mitake of using the intercooler as a work shelf and forgot to take off his allen key set before he closed the bonnet


he took it for a spin,l foot down and,,,,,,,,,, well he wished he fitted a cambelt cover i belive that time


other than that i dont know of anyone else whos had issues

so dave YOU DONT NEED IT SO SELL ME THE THING AS I MISSED OUT ON IMAS BARGAIN
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by b19bal

so dave YOU DONT NEED IT SO SELL ME THE THING AS I MISSED OUT ON IMAS BARGAIN

altogether......aaaahhhh!!


Creative Carbon one ,slight scratch where a swirl pot has been on i pressume.

make me an offer.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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Done....its yours.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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thing is i know a stone won't really damage a belt, it's a case of if the stone got jamed between belt and sprocket your gonna end uip with several bent valves..
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Originally Posted by b19bal
if you dont wanna sell it then just give it away to me



the ONLY person who should have fitted a cambelt cover iis bigwig and thats only cause ONE time he made the mitake of using the intercooler as a work shelf and forgot to take off his allen key set before he closed the bonnet


he took it for a spin,l foot down and,,,,,,,,,, well he wished he fitted a cambelt cover i belive that time
Was just going to say greg wished he had one!!!!

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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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30k of abuse on the old 3i without 1 near caused any damage
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i need a power steering tank too in alloy
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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PMS'L @ Dave and Big getting all in the general discussion area

I so wanna join in not lol



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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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i lost an engine by not having a cam belt cover fitted.

i dont know why but the bolt that holds the alternator on decided to shear.
consequently the alternator dropped down and the belts went into the cam belt at about 90 mph. bang game over!!!!
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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Hows this for a story then.

Le Mans this year, the top bolt of my alternator worked loose and flew up into my cambelt. It bent the tensioner and the washer on the bolt got traped underneath my brand new vernier exhaust cam pulley against the thermostat housing. Resulted in a snapped belt, compeletly ruined exhaust cam pulley, a lump out of the inlet pulley and a bent tensioner. This was with the cambelt cover ON. If i hadnt been running the car with the cover on then the bolt would have just fallen harmlesley onto the floor, but because the bolt and washer had no where to go it got trapped in the cambelt and this is the result. i now have no compression on cylinder 2,3 and 4, am going to have to buy new vernier pulleys and see what valves have been bent. I will always run a cambelt cover even though it helped towards such nasty damage on my cossie.

Bling bling verniers or not you should always run one. If you want your pulleys on show then buy the spec r cambelt cover with the cut-outs at the top so the pulleys cam be seen.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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im gona put mine back on but its been off for over 4years with no probs

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Ive never run one and ive never had any problems so far, although i do always promise myself i will re-fit it (amongst other things)
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Hows this for a story then.

Le Mans this year, the top bolt of my alternator worked loose and flew up into my cambelt. It bent the tensioner and the washer on the bolt got traped underneath my brand new vernier exhaust cam pulley against the thermostat housing. Resulted in a snapped belt, compeletly ruined exhaust cam pulley, a lump out of the inlet pulley and a bent tensioner. This was with the cambelt cover ON. If i hadnt been running the car with the cover on then the bolt would have just fallen harmlesley onto the floor, but because the bolt and washer had no where to go it got trapped in the cambelt and this is the result. i now have no compression on cylinder 2,3 and 4, am going to have to buy new vernier pulleys and see what valves have been bent. I will always run a cambelt cover even though it helped towards such nasty damage on my cossie.

Bling bling verniers or not you should always run one. If you want your pulleys on show then buy the spec r cambelt cover with the cut-outs at the top so the pulleys cam be seen.
What a bugger

Saw your car coming home on the transporter – was it in joint tow with a Subaru ?

Seem to recall seeing it again Calais but this time the Subaru was gone ?
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