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Old May 6, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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How much power can a standard T3 take before it fails???
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Old May 6, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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i think its about 200bhp might be wrong tho
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Old May 6, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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a standard NEW T3 will do 15-17 psi for quite a while..no probs...

however one thats done 60k or so miles on std boost (8 psi) if you turn that up to 15 psi it wont last too long,

imo, a T3 should have a 360 degree thrust bearing fitted instead of the std 270 degree and then it will do alsorts of silly boost for some time at least
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How much power can a standard T3 take before it fails???

it will not fail it will just choke ur exhaust hosueing thats y people go for 48 and 63 so it can flow better std t3 will be good for 220bhp but its all about what other mods u got that helps ur turbo work better
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Old May 6, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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How much power can a standard T3 take before it fails???
Doesn't work like that. The harder u work it, the shorter it's life - there aren't definite figures.
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Old May 6, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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or you could just put 0-40w oil in when its running standard boost and listen to it squeal and whistle
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Old May 6, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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Cheers people I was thinkin of exchanging my fcuked T3 for a recon'd one but then i noticed that it had a 150bhp power figure next to it so i thought that probably ment it should'nt be used if you are runnin more than 150bhp. Would it be worth gettin the stage 2 T3??? that had a 200bhp figure next to it. All this turbo talk is confusing me... i have'nt got much knowledge on this subject, im sure it shows!!!
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pf nick was running 19psi and 258bhp on a standard t3 turbo
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Old May 7, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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as Alex zvh cabrio says its not just the turbo that makes the power its other mods that make the air flow (boost) alot easier to enter the engine ei ported head = same power on less boost a good head & cam could give you upto 50 bhp even without touching the boost
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pf nick was running 19psi and 258bhp on a standard t3 turbo

some how that is crap
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why is it???????????????????????????
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Originally Posted by stevedb
Cheers people I was thinkin of exchanging my fcuked T3 for a recon'd one but then i noticed that it had a 150bhp power figure next to it so i thought that probably ment it should'nt be used if you are runnin more than 150bhp. Would it be worth gettin the stage 2 T3??? that had a 200bhp figure next to it. All this turbo talk is confusing me... i have'nt got much knowledge on this subject, im sure it shows!!!
Stage 2 turbo is a good investment
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Old May 7, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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yeah i read that pf nick was running just under 260 brake on standard turbo. y would he lie about his figures?
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Originally Posted by stuart collins
why is it???????????????????????????

becasue a std turbo can not flow that much air on that bhp fact
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alex a dont lie about my figures his times can prove it
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times dont have any thing to with bhp
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PF Nicks graphs
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so howcome so called cars with more power have slower times
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alex wat power do you have and wat are your times
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Originally Posted by JAMBO
so howcome so called cars with more power have slower times
becasue they are set up and specd diffant.big bhp does not mean ur car will get 12 sec qtrs in an rst.


Originally Posted by JAMBO
alex wat power do you have and wat are your times
my own cab my best time is 14.0 @108mph but my cab is twice the weight of an rst so what would i get in an striped out rst
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Old May 7, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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but you said that a std turbo couldnt flow that much power. so how can you explane nics times, if it dosnt make that power on a std turbo
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i have a t3 hybrid with a 360 degree thrust bearing , stg 3 head large grs ic low comp pistons and on cozzy management , set up by NMS currently @ 18 psi , boosting perfectly well and holding , the tuner told me that its been set up with reliability in mind not balls out power , and it pulls hard right up to 7 k [ cvh 35 cam ]

my last h reg was showing 220 bhp on power engineerings rolling road and this car makes the old one feel slow !

as said it totally depends on the rest of the engine set up ,but mines fine
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Originally Posted by JAMBO
but you said that a std turbo couldnt flow that much power. so how can you explane nics times, if it dosnt make that power on a std turbo
m8 u should know y

a std turbo exhaust housing will find it hard to flow at 220 let alone 260bhp that’s y people go for 48 and 63 so it can flow better and be less restrictive.
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Old May 7, 2006 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by T28 RST
theres a misprint on the red info bubbles ,the one on the right states bhp where it should be tourqe!!

but still, a very informative read
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Originally Posted by Combi_Chris
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theres a misprint on the red info bubbles ,the one on the right states bhp where it should be tourqe!!

but still, a very informative read
Only you would notice that
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lol no offence intendid fella, its all there in black and white, just bored i guess , lol
im just observant
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Originally Posted by Combi_Chris
lol no offence intendid fella, its all there in black and white, just bored i guess , lol
im just observant
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so why dose it make the times on a std housing if it hasnt got the power then
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chris the figures are right there is no miss print
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Originally Posted by JAMBO
chris the figures are right there is no miss print
i know , BUT look at the red bubble on the right , instead of saying tourqe on the 2nd line it doesent

it says 252 BHP
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sand corrected sorry mate you must be bored
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Originally Posted by Combi_Chris
Originally Posted by JAMBO
chris the figures are right there is no miss print
i know , BUT look at the red bubble on the right , instead of saying tourqe on the 2nd line it doesent

it says 252 BHP
yes a proper miss print lol
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so alex why dose it make the times on a std housing if it hasnt got the power then
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Originally Posted by JAMBO
sand corrected sorry mate you must be bored
yes i am and ill now refrain from spamming the shit outta this thread , sorry peeps
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Running a peak of 20psi and holding about 15psi on my standard S1 T3 turbo and i had it on track one afternoon and its still alive!
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Originally Posted by Alex zvh cabrio
Originally Posted by JAMBO
so howcome so called cars with more power have slower times
becasue they are set up and specd diffant.big bhp does not mean ur car will get 12 sec qtrs in an rst.


Originally Posted by JAMBO
alex wat power do you have and wat are your times
my own cab my best time is 14.0 @108mph but my cab is twice the weight of an rst so what would i get in an striped out rst
and you got an exhaust housing the size of a barn door
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Originally Posted by stuart collins
Originally Posted by Alex zvh cabrio
Originally Posted by JAMBO
so howcome so called cars with more power have slower times
becasue they are set up and specd diffant.big bhp does not mean ur car will get 12 sec qtrs in an rst.


Originally Posted by JAMBO
alex wat power do you have and wat are your times
my own cab my best time is 14.0 @108mph but my cab is twice the weight of an rst so what would i get in an striped out rst
and you got an exhaust housing the size of a barn door laods of llllllllllaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggggg
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Newton's second law of motion explains how an object will change velocity if it is pushed or pulled upon.

Firstly, this law states that if you do place a force on an object, it will accelerate, i.e., change its velocity, and it will change its velocity in the direction of the force.

Secondly, this acceleration is directly proportional to the force. For example, if you are pushing on an object, causing it to accelerate, and then you push, say, three times harder, the acceleration will be three times greater.

Thirdly, this acceleration is inversely proportional to the mass of the object. For example, if you are pushing equally on two objects, and one of the objects has five times more mass than the other, it will accelerate at one fifth the acceleration of the other.


Conclusive proof I think kiddies that MORE POWER = MORE ACCELERATION/ie quicker times.

ALSO
MR Going is a genius so of course his products are quicker than most of his so called competitors.
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