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Old May 3, 2006 | 07:54 AM
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What clutch combination are you using on your car? Mine is just not able to cope with high boost any more and just wanted to gain some opinions of others running simular power.

Having never driven a paddel clutch car I dont know what to expect, is it really that harsh? I do a fair number of miles just driving in traffic - will this kill the clutch in a short period of time? Also what sort of millage can i expect out of a paddel clutch?

Also have you had anything special done to the flywheel, again, any recommendations?

Thanks to those who have already given me their 2 pence worth btw

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Old May 3, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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What I didn't say was about the flywheel. The flywheel was and clutch were all balanced together with the crank and rods, and the flywheel was also re- faced, but not lightened.


Hope that helps dude
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Old May 3, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
I told you once

What I didn't say was about the flywheel. The flywheel was and clutch were all balanced together with the crank and rods, and the flywheel was also re- faced, but not lightened.

Hope that helps dude
Thanks to those who have already given me their 2 pence worth btw


Cheers Tony, are you still using a clutch cable btw?
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Old May 3, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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U will kill the the paddle with traffic driving. I've seen 28psi on my t34, so thats some torque, and the AP organic has been spot on. It's always going to be a compromise somewhere.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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i find my paddle clutch esay to use even in traffic its just wat u get use to
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Old May 3, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick
U will kill the the paddle with traffic driving. I've seen 28psi on my t34, so thats some torque, and the AP organic has been spot on. It's always going to be a compromise somewhere.
Agree - when you get to that level of tune the car isn't built or set up for town driving so you will have to accept that race components (which is what a paddle is) will not 'like' town driving. If you do use a paddle plate, use a standard cover and bearing as that will make life a bit more comfortable.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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Re: Paddle Clutch...
When I used to drive mine on the road I found driving in traffic was ok,but you had to rev to about 2,000 rpm and slip the clutch as you moved away.This in my opinion will kill the clutch fairly quickly.Regards Micky
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Old May 3, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick
U will kill the the paddle with traffic driving. I've seen 28psi on my t34, so thats some torque, and the AP organic has been spot on. It's always going to be a compromise somewhere.
Rick, do AP do a higher grade Organic now? Karl mentioned somthing about this to me but i cant remember. I would love to keep the organic but I fear it just wont be up to the job
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Old May 3, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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the new extrahigh torque clutchkit from AP is the Cp2000-35 ,which is rated to 310Nm (230lbft)
the 'old' organic clutch one,Cp2000-8 is rated to 230Nm (169)

there is also the paddle clutch kit, which is rated to 230Nm as well,
so the best option would be the 2000-35,which costs a bit more but well worth it imho
and AP stays very far on the safe side with their ratings
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Old May 3, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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i had a 4 paddle ap clutch with old 1.9 engine.wasnt too bad to drive.was a bit jerky pulling away if you didnt get it right but they aint as bad as some folk make out mate
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Old May 3, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Arjan
the new extrahigh torque clutchkit from AP is the Cp2000-35 ,which is rated to 310Nm (230lbft)
the 'old' organic clutch one,Cp2000-8 is rated to 230Nm (169)

there is also the paddle clutch kit, which is rated to 230Nm as well,
so the best option would be the 2000-35,which costs a bit more but well worth it imho
and AP stays very far on the safe side with their ratings
Spot on . Be prepped ro replace clutch cable every few months though.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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Is that Cp2000-35 an organic or paddle?

Rick - I think its time to go hydrolic
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Old May 3, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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the old 2000-8 organic i had was ok at first but as the power went up it started to slip in 4th then after i went efi i went paddle never looked back drives better than my organic did on track but not to good on set off as said above try the higher rated organic cos i dont think many have yet.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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AP are very conservative with the torque ratings of there components [for obvious warrenty reasons]. I run 200lb/ft on the CP2000-8 which is rated at 169.

So it maybe worth you giving that new plate a go
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Old May 3, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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Hmmm its a rather expensive test though! And i would be running 80lb/ft more than their ratings............
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Old May 3, 2006 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DanS
Hmmm its a rather expensive test though! And i would be running 80lb/ft more than their ratings............
I can supply the further uprated AP Organic kit, see my thread in the traders section.

Personally, I use an Alcon 6-paddle and it has been spot-on.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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the dash 35 new ap clutch is organic and i think it is awesome but i didnt run more den 240bhp
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Old May 10, 2006 | 07:51 AM
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Anyone know what the Torque ratings for a AP 4 paddle clutch is??

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Old May 10, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DanS
Anyone know what the Torque ratings for a AP 4 paddle clutch is??

Dan
You might aswell forget AP's ratings. They are WAAAAAAY beyond conservative. Something like 160lb/ft.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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Christian..... see my post on your trader parts for sale thread
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