from the untold variations of aftermarket ecu's and manegement and whatnots, what do you all rate as the best?
which ones are the easiest to work with?
which ones have the most adaptability etc?
price of the basic unit with future add ons etc?

it's a minefield out there and i'm sure people will have differen onions about one or the other, but i'm after soemthing thats both affordable and will do the job i want it to do with the capability of fitting other stuff to do other stuff if i need to add/remove some functions

i've been thinking along the lines of mbe simply because it's something i know i can get set up fairly easily to get the car running, but what about things you build yourself like mega squirt and the like?

it's mainly to get the 2.3 4 pot working at the moment but i'm also thinking about the 24V TT application

any ideas much appreciated peeps

 

the basics are they all provide fuel @ a given air intake so with that regards they are all pretty much the same.

the rest is toys and add-ons.

the mapping is far more important than the management imo!

 

Pectel T10

 

yes Steve, he does not own the Ford WRC team, nob cheese

 

I am using Megasquirt, just making a daugher loom which has the ford ecu connector on it.

so I just need to plug it in

job done

 

how much will the megasquirt set me back then jb?

and will the p2 stuff work with a 6 pot engine?

 

most of the cheaper ECUs (ie Emerald, DTA, T2, MBE, Omex etc.) aren't brilliant as boosted applications. They'll work, but you'll be able to get more driveability out of a proper system like Autronix, T6 etc. etc.

that being said, even the cheapest systems (ie megasquirt etc) will be fine for what you need, its just they might not be able to mimic the perfect driveability in all situations like EECIV can.

 

what about the mbe stuff?

 

I would say MBE is no more fancy the Megasquirt and the cheaper end of the market.

they all do the same thing realy Its the mapper who gets results

 

if your using big fuck off injectors then you need to spend a bit more money

 

this P2 thing has got me thinking

can't i just run cossie manegement on it? it could possibly work for the 4 pot but would it work for the V6?

 

Megasquirt

Your management is only as good as the tuner that sets it up

Cheers

Steve

 

for the 4 pot, i would use L8, but won't work for the 6 pot easily as there are only 4 injector drivers (you could potentially fire 3 and then 3 if you're cunning at programming it)

 

im sorry but surely they could of come up with a better name than megasquirt

 

you cant use cossie mangement on the V6.

your best bet would be to get an EECIV ECU off an american 6pot turbo/SC car and use that and get it mapped by Ahmed or Stu@MSD

 

so, looks like megasquirt is leading teh way then

silly as it may sound, wft is all this L8 and P6 etc stuff about then?
is it just a more advanced management ecu or has it got loads of other goodies on it?

 

L1 L6 L8 P8 are the different versions of cossie ECU
T2, T6, T10 are versions of Pectel management (aftermarket)

 

Am i right in thinking that P8 is a L8 with a pectel board?

 

natfink, no youre not

L8 is from a 4x4 saph, P8 is from an esccos. theyre different ECUs

 

what are the differences then?

 

different versions of the ECU. the L1 was made in the early 80s so its a bit basic... the P8 is early 90s so its had 10 years worth of development in there.

the differences are mainly to do with more memory, faster processor etc. etc.

 

Can you put then say a P8 on a Saff 2WD?

 

Yes.

 

Thanks guys

Whats a Pectel board then?

 

so, if i was to wire up cossie management to the 4 pot, it would work?
only just not for the forced induction bit of it?

and then i add a turbo and it's all fine and dandy?

 

no no no dojj, the cossie management CANNOT be tricked into working with a 6pot, its hard coded to a 4pot

 

but i want to use it on the 4 pot
but without the turbo
so can i run it like that?

 

yes, but you wouldnt get as good result doing that with cossie as you would with aftermarket.

for example, Emerald costs 550quid... (plus you'd need 2 diferent sensors, so about 20quid for them). for that you'd chop the loom plug off, rewire the new plug, job done.

cossie management will cost you about what 200-300quid? you'd need to get a cossie loom so say another 100, plus youd need to fuck about with things like phase sensors etc. etc. so fabrication etc. lots of messing etc.

you'd probably save only a few quid.
then youre left with a system YOU cant tweak

plus the aftermarket one will probably work better with the NASP car :P

when you considr megaquirt is about 200quid, it makes EVEN MORE sense

 

so, for my 2.3 scorpio engine that i can't use the normal scorpio loom on due to the pats stuff, i could get something simple like megasquirt, ready to run out of the box?

or

for the 24V blown application i could run the emerald?


sound about right?

 

Is that supposed to be opinions.

Go for t2 or emerald. I think Sean Bicknell has it in his exige and swore by it.

 

we use a lot of Omex at work, at the moment were doing a V8 Ferrari, got a Subaru & a V6 Clio to do next week.

 

dojj, i THINK the megasquirt can run both. but i personally wouldnt run a 24vTT on it, as its not exactly cutting edge technology. but then thats just my opinion

the cheaper ECUs (emerald, omex DTA etc.) will do you happily tho no point cashing out for the likes of T6 as you wont use 1/4 of the features

 

ps i'm running emerald on mine and it works very well.

the only issue i have at the moment is poor transient fueling, but im pretty sure dave walker can map it so its perfect mine goes in next monday to be mapped

 

jim dta is used on alsorts of boosted cars vws rovers ford with very good results mate

 

A stand alone ECU is only as good as the mapper mapping it...

 

good point jay.

just to clarify, the point i'm trying to make, as that some of the "boost" mapping on these ECUs is quite basic, moreso infact than some standard systems.

 

pectel T6 is the best ecu money can buy,, and there support is amazing, give you an example

i was out playing with my car the other day, and noticed for some strange reason the base map wasnt interpolating correctly, quick emals with my map and profile to pectel,,, email straight back, and they had found a small software glitch in my mapping program

 

must admit the dta support aint the best