roogar

any one had any experiance putting throttle bodies on a zetec se engine I have a ford focus or any other mods to gain +150 bhp?????

pa_sjo

You'll need a lot more than just throttlebodies to get a 1.6 sigma engine to 150+ bhp.

JamesH

iTrader: (21)

You might want to be speaking to "YoungDan" off here mate

crazycage

why not throttle bodies and a turbo ??

wide ka

ive allready told you mate, shawspeed.co.uk is the only place you need to go!

roogar

I know thanks just after some more info






and advice and abvioulsy i'll need cams new ecu etc juat wondered if any has done this befor and what they fitted to make it drivable

OldDan

You can get damn close to that figure with just cams and standard inlet.

pa_sjo

Yeah, righto. Put it on an engine dyno and if it makes over 145bhp, i'll pay for it.

XR2

It's hard work even with the 1.8 16V or the 2.0 16V to get them beyond 150 hp.

It needs to be a full race spec engine to get the 1.6 this far!

OldDan

Blah Blah Blah

I can dig out at least 3 graphs with cars just running cams that are putting out between 140-150bhp.

Alright - not an engine dyno, but it WILL do it.

Fúck - how do you think the racing puma acheives it? It's a 1.7 with cams full exhaust and a different inlet?



Tell me I'm lying - afterall I've built quite a few Zetec-SE's now!

OldDan

We're talking about the 1.6 Zetec-SE

Mine is nowhere near race spec. Neither is Al's - his is running cams, bodies, bigger exhaust valves and pushing 176bhp. (On track n road's rollers!)

pa_sjo

The FRP took a lot of development work to get it to 160PS.. 'different inlet' is quite fundamental.

OldDan

Listen - my own personally owned car and engine - a 1.6 Zetec-SE fitted with cams, 4-2-1, standard inlet and standard airbox made 149bhp 121lbs/ft.

Now, I'm not sure if you're calling me a liar or not, but as said I can quite happily drag out RR graphs from same spec engine, on lots of different rolling roads, showing between 140-150bhp.

As said, I've built more than enough Zetec-SE's now to know how much power then can produce!

P.S Know-it-all, have a look at this link

http://adac.24h-rennen.de/en/archive...ta-st-cup.html

Those cars use the Zetec-SE, they run single throttle body, and are pushing out 170ps.

pa_sjo

YoungDan- there's no need to get insulting.. you've had your experience, i've had mine.. it isn't a competition..

That's great that they're getting 170PS from the 1.6 Sigma engine but nowhere on that page did it detail how they achieved it!

OldDan

And your experiences were what exactly?

What Zetec-SE did you build? Or are you going off what your mate down the pub said?

pa_sjo

I don't think it'd make any difference if I do detail what i've done or haven't done, you wouldn't accept it by the sounds of it

I think i'll leave this as I haven't done anything, don't know what i'm talking about and you're the guru of the Sigma. Hopefully that'll quieten this thread down

skrats

iTrader: (1)

my brother in law has just had throttle bodies put on his 2.0 litre zetec with omex managment and he just got it back from torque of the devil and that only made 160bhp with A GOOD STRONG POWER CURVE , but with cams could make 20 bhp more so a 1.6 with just throttle boddies wont get no where near imho just do thee math ..

OldDan

I'm not the guru of the Sigma - the person who I work with is.


skrats - and what exactly do you base your findings on???

OldDan

This was posted by me, a year ago. The car had full exhaust and manifold, panel filter, std airbox, std inlet manifold, shawspeed cams, msd remap.

Graphs -

3i_gaz

cant believe people are argueing against facts that are on paper in black and white lol

Young dan i have seen your car at the cheshire meets when it was on the road and seen it go, was very impressed for a 1600 zetec.

B-Tech Racing

rutty on zsoc 4-2-1 mani, cams, standard inlet, and remapped by dreamscience, made 154bhp iirc

Wardy ZS

Mine made 129bhp with a set of SS4 cams and full exhaust.

Map was to shit as my piggyback chip didnt work. Building a similar spec'd engine, and I expect at least 145bhp.

OldDan

Back from the dead!

lacey

before i say any thing i am not getting involved in the shit fight on this page (lol) but at my old place of employment we had a engine builder come in with one of these engines i cant remember if it was a 1.6 or 1.7 but they did come in for a dry sump kit as he was making 200 bhp but this had shed lots of cash spent on it

OldDan

Where did you work?

lacey

pace for 10 years

youngben

iTrader: (2)

reason its so hard to beleive is because the right thing to do its just put a K&N on and a nice cherry bomb and you get 145bhp you see people never see money get spent on a puney little 1.6! UNTIL NOW! i have driven a genuine 171bhp at fly zetec-s on throttle bodys standard bottom end and they dont hang around! and i have also seen more than 4 ZS's with just cams a few hp off 150! its a fact the zetec-s is something else in the right hands!

Dan also builds the engines for the well respected kit car company who has allowed us to make our cars go like they do so if anyone should know then he is your man! over 200hp is acheiveable with forged internals

robbs29

oc motorsport, search on google. his name is ollie, he has put itb's on the 1.6 zetec engines. I think his last one made 154bhp on dyno dnamics RR.

Paget

that was my engine made 156