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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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Obviously most of us use a PC to get on here, but our oldest now has an Apple Mac for design work.

I've managed to get it to access the Belkin wireless Router/Modem so he can get online, but we have no idea how to make it share files and printers.

Anyone on here know anything about set-up for these?
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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whats he running OSX or OS9 ?

If hes running OSX what version is it ?

Jaguar, Panther etc
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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I believe it is called OSX Tiger
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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ok and you want the mac to share files and printers with what ?
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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The main computer is a Dell Dimension connected to a Belkin Wireless Router/Modem. This computer is also connected to a HP Laserjet 4+ connected by parallel, and an HP Officejet G85 all in one, connected by USB.

The second computer is my Dell laptop, connected via the Belkin router/modem and accessing the printers and shared files via the wireless network.

The third computer is the Apple mac G4 with an airport wireless connection that can access the internet etc via the wireless network but can't print or share files.

To be fair, I'm so busy that I haven't done any great deal of exploring why? However, I have no experience of Macs and some of the terminology is even more foreign to me than the terminology around PCs!!!
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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READ THE POST BELOW BEFORE ATTEMPTING THIS !!

I would personally configure these systems to use static IP addresses and base the network on SMB which is the native sharing protocol for Microsoft Windows operating systems, but it may be offered by other computers.

I take it you know how to setup and configure Windows workgroup if not I need to tell you how to do this a the following instructions are to get the OSX box toconnect to a Windows workgroup that allready exists

Follow these steps:

1. Click the Finder icon in the Dock.
2. Choose Connect to Server from the Go menu (see Note 1).
3. In the address field of the Connect to Server dialog, type the URL using this syntax (see Note 3):

smb://ServerName/ShareName/

4. Click Connect.

You will be prompted for the workgroup, user name, and password. In addition to connecting to actual Microsoft Windows computers, you may also use the Connect to Server dialog to connect to a Macintosh that is offering Windows File Sharing.

Notes:

1. When you go to the Connect to Server dialog, you may browse by computer name. In Mac OS X versions 10.0 to 10.1.5, the names of SMB-sharing computers do not appear. In Mac OS X 10.2 or later, the names of SMB computers do appear (see Note 2). However, only the names of computers on your subnet appear.

2. You may not always see the expected user-defined computer name when browsing via SMB. See technical document 107085, "Mac OS X 10.2: Windows (SMB) Computer Name Does Not Appear in Connect to Server Dialog".

3. "ServerName" may be an IP address or DNS name. If it is required or more convenient in your environment, you may also use other valid URL formats, such as:

smb://WORKGROUP@ServerName/ShareName
smb://WORKGROUP;User@ServerName/ShareName


4. The name of the "share" (the shared disk, volume, or directory) must be specified. You will not be prompted for it.

5. You cannot type spaces as part of the share name when connecting. In place of any space in the share name, type: %20

6. You cannot connect to a share with a name that contains a hyphen. Resolve the issue by giving the share a name that does not contain a hyphen.

7. Connecting to (mounting) two or more SMB volumes simultaneously may cause a kernel panic. Drag one volume to the Trash to eject it before connecting to another (versions 10.1 to 10.2.8 only).

8. The only alert message that Mac OS X versions 10.0 to 10.1.5 display for SMB login difficulties is "There's no file service available at the URL <URL>." This is sometimes correct and sometimes incorrect. This is the message that would appear if you mistyped your password, for example.

9. Mac OS X uses SMB only over the TCP/IP protocol, not over the NetBEUI protocol.

10. When troubleshooting a connection failure, you can ping the IP address of the Windows computer using the Mac OS X Network Utility. A successful ping verifies a TCP/IP connection between the two computers.

11. Check Microsoft support resources for information on setting up file sharing on your Microsoft Windows-based computer. These may include Help files installed on your computer or the Microsoft online Knowledge Base (http://search.support.microsoft.com/kb/). For an example, see article Q304040: "Description of File Sharing and Permissions in Windows XP"

12. When troubleshooting an SMB connection issue, try checking the Console, which is located in the Utilities folder. The Console log may help advanced users identify an issue.

13. If you are connecting to Windows XP, make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall settings are not interfering with your connection. SMB uses ports 137, 138 and 139. These ports should be open on the Windows XP computer. This may require "Advanced" configuration of the XP firewall.


its worth remembering that OSX is actually based on a Unix compatible system called Darwin which is a BSD and like Linux as such it should be treated in this manner and not like XP.

Hope this helps if you require more detailed info just say
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Im also assuming that you know how to enable SMB on the mac and have this done allready before attempting tthe information above..... if not follow this information

Mac OS X 10.2 and later include Windows File Sharing, which allows PCs running Windows to connect to your computer using their native sharing protocol. Learn how to set it up.

Set up user accounts

Users connecting to Windows Sharing must have user accounts on the Mac OS X computer that is sharing. There is no guest access. Any person who already has an account on the Mac OS X computer can use his existing account. You must log in to the Mac OS X computer with an administrator account to set this up. The steps differ for new and existing users.

For new users

1. From the Apple menu, choose System Preferences.
2. From the View menu, choose Accounts.
3. Click New User (10.2) or the "+" button (10.3 or later).
4. Enter the Name and Short Name for the user who will log in from Windows.

The user's short name is exactly how the user will enter their name when they log in to Windows Sharing. The short name is always lowercase.

For users of Windows 98: If you log in to Windows 98 with a username, make sure it matches your Mac OS X account's short name. If you do not log in to Windows 98 with a username, you will need to create a new Windows 98 username that matches the account short name in Mac OS X. For more information on using Windows operating systems, please see Microsoft documentation or contact Microsoft for further assistance.

5. Enter the user's password.
6. 10.2 only: Click the checkbox for "Allow user to log in from Windows".
7. 10.2 only: Click OK.
8. Quit System Preferences.



For existing users

Note: Mac OS X 10.2 requires these steps, but users of Mac OS X 10.3 or later may not need any of them. If an existing Mac OS X 10.3 or later account can't log in from Windows, just perform steps 1, 2, 3, and 9.

1. From the Apple menu, choose System Preferences.
2. From the View menu, choose Accounts.
3. Select the account.
4. Click Edit User.

If you're editing your own account (the logged-in user), you must take the additional step of typing your password in the Current Password field and then pressing Return. This is not required when editing other accounts.

5. Select the checkbox for "Allow user to log in from Windows".

When selecting "Allow user to log in from Windows" for any account other than your own, you see the message, "To enable SMB support password reset is required. Do you want to reset password?" Though this message does not appear for your account when you're logged in as an administrator user, it is still true. When enabling Windows login for your own account, you must change your password at the same time.

6. You are prompted to reset the password. Click OK.
7. Enter the new password, and click Save.
8. Try to log in from Windows with the selected account. If you can, then you're finished.
9. If the selected account cannot log in to Windows Sharing on the first try, go back to that user's account and change the password again.


Specify the Windows workgroup name

The default Mac OS X SMB workgroup name is "WORKGROUP". If you did a custom installation of Mac OS X and deselected the BSD Subsystem, you may not be able to change your workgroup name, which may prevent you from sharing. This is not an issue if you did a standard installation. If necessary, reinstall Mac OS X 10.2 with the BSD Subsystem selected.

If you are sharing files between Mac and PC, make sure your workgroup names are exactly the same on both computers.

Turn on Windows Sharing

1. From the Apple menu, choose System Preferences.
2. From the View menu, choose Sharing. The Bonjour (formerly "Rendezvous") Name field will be used for the Mac OS X SMB host name. This is the name that appears in the Windows Network Neighborhood.

For versions 10.2 and 10.2.1 only: If a DNS reverse lookup entry exists for your computer, the DNS name will be used instead of the one entered here.

3. Click the checkbox for Windows Sharing (located in the Service column). Network preferences says, "Windows Sharing On".
4. For version 10.4 only: As indicated by the yellow prompts, you must click the Enable Accounts button and complete the resulting dialog.

If Windows Sharing service does not stay on, make sure you have a reliable network connection.


Connect to Windows Sharing

Computers using a Microsoft Windows operating system connect to Windows Sharing on the Mac as they would any other Windows (SMB) sharing service.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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Wow! Thanks for taking the time to do all this. I'm unlikely to be able to do aanything with it till the weekend, but I'll give it a go then and report back.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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if you're just trying to share files and prinmters, you just need to tic the "share my files and printers" box in networking (under control panel) make sure the printer is set to be shared (right click properties) then on the mac ask it to find printers.. should pop up.
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