Danny-p

MY 1995 escort cosworth is now for sale
Offers due to running out of funds
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Hi People
i have had my cosworth since september last year, i pay £50 a week for it for the next ten years and have only driven it a few times since i got it.
My problems started when i took it rond to my mates garage and he noticed that the top hose was inflating and the header tank was pressurising and told me the head gasket was on its way out and would need doing.Next drive just to the shop the engine mount broke and snapped the cv joint on the drivers side. The next drive the car empted
all its water all over the floor out of one of the hoses. I took it to a garage and they told me that the thermostat was knackered and the top hose was too and replaced the top hose. After that it didnt infalte again. Next drive it put all its water out all over the floor next i took it to motorsport developments where they replaced the chip because the car had begun to idel funny, tested the ecu as the fuel pump was sticking on insted of priming when the ignition was first turned on, and said there was a fault on the ecu, fitted a bleed valve as it didnt have a amel valve and changed the cap on the header tank so that it would hold its water pressure. when i picked the car up i was told that the head gasket was on its way out and would need changing and would cost me a lot of money. after leaving the car feeling sorry for itself i began to strip the car down with my mate who is a mechanic and do the head gasket. i orded a group a head gasket and all the other gaskets. the head was lightly skimmed and the engine was put back togeter. the car fired up nicely but was putting out smoke. after driving it twice the car was still ideling funny so i replaced the idel speed control valve and ended up replacing the turbo for a brand new one. shortly after the car wouldnt start for some reason and was very fuelly. i managed to get the car runing after flattening 2 batterys. i took the car down the road and after ten minites the car stalled and wasnt up for starting and there was a clicking coming from the back of the fuse box. Shortly then i was pulled by the police and told to move my car and got a producer. after twenty minutes the car started and i drove it straight down to a mechanics workshop. He couldnt find anything wrong with the car and tested the ecu and it wasnt putting out any fault codes.

So i took it home and left it till the next day. would it start. NO! I wanted to get the car sorted once and for all so i took it to a recommended RS specialinst in morcombe. this guy got the car runing and removed my chip and told me that there was loads fuel in the sump and the chip was making the car run funny. All the way home the car was over boosting and not running very well on tickover. Next day went to start it and it woulnt run. I took the car back down to him and after two weeks, removing my alarm and immobiliser, told me that my car would never run again and to set fire to it as the loom and ecu was knackered.
this left me devastated and wondered how my pride and joy had ended up like this afer 6 times of driving carfully. I then contacted my mate and he said he could get it running. He put some new plugs in it and it fired up straight away. the plugs that were removed from the car were BR9eg (Rusty NGK motorcycle plugs). Coil packs were then replaced as it's sparks were weak. My mate noticed that where the ecu mounts inside the foot well on a metal plate was shorting the ecu out where the chip used to be plugged and he monted it properly. This cost me £200. that got the car home and it was running fine for two days. then broke down on me on the way into a rs show blocking the entrance. the last thing to try was changing the fuse box. this was done and it runs to a degree at the moment. it starts up but is overfuelling at the moment putting flames out and failing to tick over. and i dont trust driving it as it might brake down.

i have run out of ideas with my car. It stands me at £15,000+ and still doesnt run. the car is immaculate and has been really looked after over the past years. it has only done 59000 miles and shold be running. please if anyone can help me by giving some advice or letting me know of a person i can take it too that will tell me the gods honest truth what is wrong with it without trying to replace everything and it still not running.
I am prepared to travel and will be interested in selling the car as it is and taking a loss. it seems such a waste to see such a nice car sat in my driveway collecting bird crap and sap off the trees.

PLEASE IF ANYONE CAN HELP ME LET ME KNOW OR PM ME.

THANKS

And sorry for boring you with a long story

Twins

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Try Grove Garage Douglas Road Romford Essex 01708726518

Mr RS500

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You have pm

Paulcosworth

if your after repairing it i would take it to motorsport developments. how much are you after to sell it. have you got any pics u can put up

xr4x4rs

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so is the chip now been removed as surely the car would of been set up with that chip

when the chip isnt in there the car will run rough as its gone back to standard settings

overfuelling could be the map sensor knackered aswell

sorry you have this trouble but will be worth more running that not

DazC

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Looks like your having a bit of a rough time with it there mate!!! Motorsort Developments are pretty good at what they do. I would take it back there and tell them exactly what you have written up there (that will help them diagnose it).

I assume all parts fitted where new parts?

rabmc

Thats a shame mate , try and not do nothing too hasty

There must be someone or somewhere that can sort you out or at leastget it going

RSCAT

doesnt it say hes already been to MSD ?

thats shitty luck mate, feel for ya

Paulcosworth

i would try a new lamba sensor. it cured mine when it was over fueling

MichaelG

I know how you feel mate, i was nearly pulling my hair out with my Red Escos a few years back, went through a couple of months of problem after problem, all small, but they all made it one big problem.

Persevere with it mate, Turbosystems in Stoke in Trent were who fixed mine for me and it was spot on ever after.

Michael

cos400

price and pics mate cheers

monkey nutz

i pay £50 a week for it for the next ten years and have only driven it a few times since i got it.



What do you mean by this bit mate? Is it on some sort of finance deal?

rog

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I would get it checked again mate, i know you've had nothing but hassle, but you can't expect to get much for it if it doesn't run properly. Must be something simple like a crank sensor or something like that, sounds like you eliminated just about everything else.. .. Good luck anyway.

silky16v

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if i remember right u use to drive a FRST didn't and you use to knock about with a mate of mine called GED?

if u are GED told me about the knightmare u having with ya car

Alass a slightly different story though

Dirty Harry

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Have we got a price yet for this car

rstoughy

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Dose it still have the multiplugs for the engine loom on the N/S inner wing in between the header tank and the power steering tank?

If so i think these need to go. I've been having nothing but running problems with mine for the last month or so (see my post in the Escort cosworth room) and these are next to go.

Good luck M8.

Danny-p

rstoughy
have you got pics of these multiplugs mate so i can see

Danny-p

silky16v
i'm not ged mate.


anyone want to swap my car for somthing like a FRST with cash

Danny-p

monkey nutz
i borrowed £12000 to buy it from the bank and they charge me £52.35 a week for the next 10 years and i cant even use the car. anyone any ideas where i can take it. as i'm not in a position to take it to msd

Danny-p

Twins
cheers mate but thats like a long way from me.

Danny-p

xr4x4rs
i thought if you just unplugged the ecu chip out of the side of the ecu and put the standard actuator on and turned down the boost it will put the engine to standard settings. ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS

ANY PICS OF MAP SENSOR SO I CAN TRY A NEW ONE

Danny-p

Paulcosworth
ANY IDEA HOW MUCH A LAMBA SENSOR IS

FusionRS

Thats some repayment scheme!!!

Danny-p

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PICTURES MAKE AN OFFER

Danny-p

FusionRS
I KNOW I'M GUTTED

xr4x4rs

iTrader: (5)

the map sensor is located on passenger inner wing nxt to inlet

its upside down

lamda sensors arnt that expensive proberbly 20 quid

it all depends on whats been done when the chip was fitted, i.e timing adjusted, fuel, emissions etc

so just pulling the chip out could affect the running of it as th esettings may have been changed


does look like a nice car wish i could get enough money for one

Dirty Harry

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SO HOW MUCH WOULD YOU LIKE FOR IT ??????????????????

Danny-p

Pete,RS Specialists
MAKE ME A SENSIBLE OFFER

Danny-p

Pete,RS Specialists
MAKE ME A SENSIBLE OFFERxr4x4rs

Danny-p

I STARTED THE CAR UP BEFORE AND IT RUNS BUT PUTS OUT ALOT OF BLACK SMOKE AND SMELLS FUELLY. THE CAR IS ALRITE WHEN ITS REVED UP BUT JUST SEEMS TO GET FUELLED UP EASILY ON TICK OVER. AND IF YOU LEAVE IT TO TICK OVER AND GO TO REV IT UP IT RUNS ON 3 TILL IT CLEARS OUT.

rstoughy

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Danny-p

Heres a pic of one, sorry its not that good but they are side by side so if they are still there you will see them no probs

Dirty Harry

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just let me know the price and we can take it from there

Danny-p

rstoughy
HOW DO U GET RID OF THEM LIKE YOU SAID

Paulcosworth

Sounds just like wot mine was doing and i bought and fitted a lamba sensor from pete rs sepcialst and it was fine after that (thanks pete). Try ringing him or paul from north yorks, both great lads

Danny-p

GOT A PHONE NUMBER, AND HOW EASY ARE THEY TO FIT DO U KNOW ANYONE RELIABLE THAT COULD FIX ME CAR

Gaaables

seen that car on ebay a while back, looks nice shame your having so many problems

Paulcosworth

Pete's number's in his signiture above and paul's is around somewhere if you look through some of the traders posts on here. They are dead easy to fit. My gran could probably do it. The lamba sensor is located just behind the turbo, it screws into the exhaust and you'll need a spanner to undo it. It has a wire which if you follow it eventally comes to a multiplug behind the head. somewhere. simply unclip it and replace with new one

MichaelG

Just been reading through this thread again with interest,

MATE if you still have the car, all this talk of black smoke, and rough running, and overfuelling smell etc, smells VERY VERY VERY much like the problem i had with mine.

It took me months to figure out, but i eventually traced it to the MAP Sensor. Water had been sitting on the map sensor bracket, and eventually ingressing into the map sensor itself making it go faulty. When they do go faulty and short, they cause the car to overfuel MADLY as its either at 0v or 5v i cant remember which, but either way thats making the car think its on boost, so it chucks in fuel accordingly to compensate, so my car would run rough as a bag of nails, chuck out black smoke, cough, splutter, wouldnt rev up, then would eventually die.

I changed the map sensor, just thinking it was "faulty" the first time, on the advice of Tony at Turbosystems. He said it was 99% a map sensor prob, just by diagnosing over the phone. It happened again a few weeks later, and it took me the THIRD attempt, and 3 faulty map sensors lol to find out that the rain water running down in the vent, and onto the bracket was shorting the sensor, fooking it, and hence causing my problem.

It sounds VERY much like this is your problem mate.

I changed my Lambda sensor too, although it made sod all difference. Expensive buggers they are too....

If i were you, i would find out what MAP Sensor you have, (they are colour coded) but if your chipped then i would assume its a 3Bar map sensor, so try and get a loan of a good one from a mate, or anywhere, and swap them out to test. Its located on the pass side inner wing, upside down on a triangley bracket. with a multiplug and a vacuum hose going into it....

Swap it, let the car start, let it burn off any excess fuel, take it for a spin and see how it is. Each and every time i fitted a new one my car was spot on, until i eventually realised that the car went to shit every morning after the night before when it had been raining LOL and i eventually put 2 and 2 together why i was munching through MAP Sensors lol.

Seriously mate, give it a try, i am 90%sure this could be your exact prob based on my experience and Turbosystems advice. I could of course be wrong, but for the sake of 5 mins to test it, its worth a try.

You sould of course also have a 2.5 Bar MAP Sensor, which are temperamental, so better off to get a 3 Bar if you do.

Hope this is of some help, i know how soul destroying it is having to deal with it each and every day and not be able to enjoy it.

Let me know how you get on please

Cheers

Michael

rapidcossie

you hear this kinda story all the time on here..

i say the same every time...

take it to a PRO and by this i dont mean a so called PRO...

there are plenty of well rated tuners on here that may charge a wee bit extra over your normal garage but it would save ALOT of hassle in the long run...

stop messing about and get your minted escort back on the road running as it should

MichaelG

Got to second that, Turbosystems gets my vote without a doubt