lol i didnt explain myself properly.

I know they are tweaked,BUT lol this wil be the first time i experience proper battlefield. 64 players, stunning visuals.

As for forza, yeah, it again is tweaked, but you can never get enough of a racing game, they have added the trigger feedback which i loved, and they tend to have a 1.5 to 2 year cycle to fifas 1 year cycle. I get the engine for fifa is new, but your only gonna have 9 months till the next one now. I know i get fifa for free, but game phoned me yesterday to arrange an appointment for me to go in this weekend to discuss with me packages available to me for my pre order day one console. I will push my hardest to get them to give me the forza option over fifa lol