Technical help Q & A Got A technical problem with you car? Keep it in here where the techies hang out and we will try to solve it for you!!

Help! Sheared off locking nut key!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-09-2009, 06:27 PM
  #1  
CoupeUK
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Thread Starter
 
CoupeUK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 1,217
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Help! Sheared off locking nut key!

Ive just got in from replacing the discs on the front of my ST170 Focus and have sheared the locking nut key off. But . . . its sitting on non standard wheels which have wheel specific nuts which is where the problem lies!

Its fitted with 17 BSA Bullet wheels but the nuts are internal drive rather than the usual external drive type fitted to most other wheels, I have about 5mm exposed from the wheels so have to use that to try to remove the nut. Does anyone have any useful suggestions to help me get this bloody nut off without wrecking anything?

Cheers,
Paul
Old 03-09-2009, 06:31 PM
  #2  
tabetha
BANNED
BANNED
 
tabetha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: uk
Posts: 24,596
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Weld a old bit of bar/socket on there, protect wheel with a thin bit of metal rolled up around the nut.
tabetha
Old 03-09-2009, 07:43 PM
  #3  
xr2wishy
Bodger of Blackburn
iTrader: (2)
 
xr2wishy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: blackburn
Posts: 4,409
Received 23 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

forget welding it can make a mess of the wheel, just get a socket just a bit smaller than the bolt head and whack it on with a hammer, then using a cross bar wheel brace, it should come off.
Old 03-09-2009, 07:47 PM
  #4  
scoobypete
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
 
scoobypete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: northampton
Posts: 1,209
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by xr2wishy
forget welding it can make a mess of the wheel, just get a socket just a bit smaller than the bolt head and whack it on with a hammer, then using a cross bar wheel brace, it should come off.
+1 make you wonder tho, are locking bolts worth it?
Old 03-09-2009, 08:11 PM
  #5  
damian harris
sideways most if the time
 
damian harris's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: rochdale
Posts: 408
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

+2, or you can do as i did and carefully tap it round with a center punch.I have done this on a range of locking nut's. I have removed mine as they become more trouble than there worth.
Old 03-09-2009, 08:15 PM
  #6  
jhot80
Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!!
 
jhot80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Southend-on-sea
Posts: 81
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

When trying the centre punch one. Tighten all the other nut up as much as you can will make the locking wheel nut looser.
Old 03-09-2009, 09:45 PM
  #7  
parkin92
15000
 
parkin92's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: durham
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

drill the nut in the centre and counter-tap the hole. mite not work depending on tightness but worth a try. also do what the other lad said and tighten the others as far as possible (not too far though, or you may damage the wheel).

Trending Topics

Old 03-09-2009, 10:02 PM
  #8  
steves24V's
Advanced PassionFord User
iTrader: (7)
 
steves24V's's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 1,545
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

them wheel nuts are a night mare, if there what i think they are you can't bang a smaller socket over them all i can say is good luck

Are they like this sort of thing, I've seen some with smaller side walls to the nuts so they just open out.
Old 03-09-2009, 11:43 PM
  #9  
CoupeUK
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Thread Starter
 
CoupeUK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 1,217
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by xr2wishy
ust get a socket just a bit smaller than the bolt head and whack it on with a hammer, then using a cross bar wheel brace, it should come off.
Cant do that mate, as said in the original post these nuts are internal drive, you put an adapter inside the nut to turn them rather than put a socket over them!

Originally Posted by scoobypete
+1 make you wonder tho, are locking bolts worth it?
In my defense they were on the car already, i'll most likely replace them with non locking variants like the other nuts.

Originally Posted by parkin92
drill the nut in the centre and counter-tap the hole. mite not work depending on tightness but worth a try. also do what the other lad said and tighten the others as far as possible (not too far though, or you may damage the wheel).
Again, doubt this would work as mine are internal drive, you'd need a massivley long drillbit to reach the metal through the hole!!!

I'll run it round to RTec in the morning and see if they can source replacment nuts before I attempt getting these off - its looking like i'll get something welded to what material I have left and get them out that way. Thanks for the replies though everyone!!!!
Old 03-09-2009, 11:45 PM
  #10  
Chip
*** Sierra RS Custard ***
iTrader: (3)
 
Chip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 47,250
Received 22 Likes on 14 Posts
Default

Drill the head off is a pain to do but ultimately will work.

Try beating a socket over it first though, might be able to get it to bite.

When people say "violence isnt the answer" with locking wheelnuts it often is!
Old 03-09-2009, 11:55 PM
  #11  
CoupeUK
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Thread Starter
 
CoupeUK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 1,217
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

These are very similar to what I have, except that my locking one has a different shaped head. (Well, the problem one looks slightly different as it has half an adapter stuck inside it!!)



They fit inside the wheel holes and sit more or less flush wih the outer face of the wheel.

Last edited by CoupeUK; 03-09-2009 at 11:58 PM.
Old 03-09-2009, 11:56 PM
  #12  
CoupeUK
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Thread Starter
 
CoupeUK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 1,217
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Chip
Drill the head off is a pain to do but ultimately will work.

Try beating a socket over it first though, might be able to get it to bite.

When people say "violence isnt the answer" with locking wheelnuts it often is!
As i'll say again Chip, theyre internal drive, you cant get a socket over them!!!!!!
Old 03-09-2009, 11:56 PM
  #13  
johnandhissaffy
white fords look best
iTrader: (1)
 
johnandhissaffy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: essex
Posts: 1,693
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

theres a tool out for that its a socket that grips the nut when u bang it on and u undo it with a gun if u have one

ill find out wot they r called and let u no tomorrow k
Old 03-09-2009, 11:57 PM
  #14  
Chip
*** Sierra RS Custard ***
iTrader: (3)
 
Chip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 47,250
Received 22 Likes on 14 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by CoupeUK
As i'll say again Chip, theyre internal drive, you cant get a socket over them!!!!!!
Same applies mate, you just use an external hex socket instead of an internal one, still same principle though, just beat something in that nearly fits.
Old 03-09-2009, 11:59 PM
  #15  
CoupeUK
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Thread Starter
 
CoupeUK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 1,217
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Chip
Same applies mate, you just use an external hex socket instead of an internal one, still same principle though, just beat something in that nearly fits.
I cant get anything in there as the keys sheared off inside it!
Old 04-09-2009, 08:14 AM
  #16  
xr2wishy
Bodger of Blackburn
iTrader: (2)
 
xr2wishy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: blackburn
Posts: 4,409
Received 23 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

so thee is absolutely no room between the hole in the rim and the nut?
if that s the case then get some cutting fluid and some drill bits, drill out the sheared key and whack a torx bit in there, make sure it's a 1/2" drive one as lesser ones may break.
Old 04-09-2009, 05:14 PM
  #17  
steves24V's
Advanced PassionFord User
iTrader: (7)
 
steves24V's's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 1,545
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Ok i couldn't help but least i knew what you were on about
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
tankybaby66
Cars for Sale
49
06-02-2016 02:24 PM
A.t.p
Ford Escort RS Turbo
14
23-10-2015 07:54 PM
2wdsaph ben
General Car Related Discussion.
18
02-10-2015 05:18 PM
rsguy
General Car Related Discussion.
44
29-09-2015 03:29 PM
DavidK
Ford Sierra/Sapphire/RS500 Cosworth
1
27-09-2015 02:55 PM



Quick Reply: Help! Sheared off locking nut key!



All times are GMT. The time now is 11:31 PM.