Restorations, Rebuilds & Projects. Restoring her to Concourse? Just getting her running again? Or got a mad project? This is your room.

Im building my gokart at last (400cc babyblade)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 21-04-2005, 06:32 PM
  #1  
!mouse-oxford!
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
Thread Starter
 
!mouse-oxford!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: oxfordshire
Posts: 632
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Im building my gokart at last (400cc babyblade)

Oh yes ppl i just got myself a 400cc honda babyblade engine to put in my gokart.

My friend has a 900cc honda fireblade gokart but he is off his head

here is a few pics of it now i will but some more up in a few weeks when its done



here is the engine



I cant wait till its done so i can get it to santa pod :P :P
sorry about the bad quality of the pics but i used my nokia 6230 to take them
here it is now cut in half ready to be made longer for the engine to go in

we have made it longer now and the welding is nearly done just got to make the brackets for the engine now and put a big plate under it to make it a bit stronger B)




its now 7 and a half foot long and even closer to bein finished

i will take some more pics and post them up when i have done more to it
Old 21-04-2005, 06:51 PM
  #2  
L33 BYT
PassionFord Post Whore!!

 
L33 BYT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: SUFFOLK
Posts: 7,482
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Excellent work
Old 21-04-2005, 06:53 PM
  #3  
Spax
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Spax's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Guernsey
Posts: 2,626
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Old 21-04-2005, 07:06 PM
  #4  
SimonT
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
SimonT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 4,431
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

That is wicked!!!

Does anyone remember that bloke in laxpower years ago with the 1100 fireblade (i think) cart? That looked fooking mental.

Hope it goes well mate
Old 21-04-2005, 08:28 PM
  #5  
vroooom ptssssh
It Wasnt Me!
 
vroooom ptssssh's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Scottyland
Posts: 22,752
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

looks like a limo go-kart I saw a mental vid of a gixxer engined cart, that didnt look much longer than a normal kart, what way you mounting the engine
Old 21-04-2005, 08:29 PM
  #6  
pugo
Advanced PassionFord User
 
pugo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: benfleet, essex
Posts: 2,444
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

mate, you have a serious geometry problem there, do you understand the principles of a kart chassis???????

it works via stub to king pin inclination vs castor.......the principle is simple you turn the wheel left and the left front wheel becomes lower in the chassis causing a weight shift to the front right wheel, this lifts the left hand rear thus enabling the the thing to turn round the corner (no diff, solid rear axle) if you do not lift the inside rear when turning it will go straight on.
looking at the length of the chassis you have 2 choices, you are going to have to stiffen massivly your 3 rails probably needing to add another 2 at least, and increasing the castor dramatically...........or........fit a diff unit

this is the reason prokarts and gearbox karts are 4rail+ and use really thick tubing you simply cant pick the rear inner up with a lot of weight on it on an old 100 chassis

HTH

Pugo
Old 21-04-2005, 08:34 PM
  #7  
ian r
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
ian r's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: CLEVEDON NEAR BRISTOL
Posts: 594
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

watch it dont flex in the middle thats the problem iam trying to sort out with mine

Trending Topics

Old 21-04-2005, 08:38 PM
  #8  
morcheen
Advanced PassionFord User
 
morcheen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: london
Posts: 2,183
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Default

fit a parachute too
Old 21-04-2005, 08:41 PM
  #10  
Focus Dan
15000
 
Focus Dan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I agree with Pugo.. Getting Karts to handle correctly is my full time job!

That's not gonna be that great around corners!
Old 21-04-2005, 08:47 PM
  #11  
ian r
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
ian r's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: CLEVEDON NEAR BRISTOL
Posts: 594
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

here you go some pics of mine so far


Old 22-04-2005, 07:03 AM
  #13  
CasperR
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
 
CasperR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Denmark
Posts: 1,274
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Anybody remember that vis of the cart with the gsxr engine?
Old 22-04-2005, 07:43 AM
  #14  
SyKaTurbo
I'm Finding My Feet Here Now
 
SyKaTurbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Chorley, Lancs
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

http://gprime.net/video.php/gixxerkart

you mean this gixxerkart?

always wanted one myself after building that.

Who cares about steering, its all about the drift lol!!
Old 22-04-2005, 08:47 AM
  #15  
!mouse-oxford!
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
Thread Starter
 
!mouse-oxford!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: oxfordshire
Posts: 632
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by pugo
mate, you have a serious geometry problem there, do you understand the principles of a kart chassis???????

it works via stub to king pin inclination vs castor.......the principle is simple you turn the wheel left and the left front wheel becomes lower in the chassis causing a weight shift to the front right wheel, this lifts the left hand rear thus enabling the the thing to turn round the corner (no diff, solid rear axle) if you do not lift the inside rear when turning it will go straight on.
looking at the length of the chassis you have 2 choices, you are going to have to stiffen massivly your 3 rails probably needing to add another 2 at least, and increasing the castor dramatically...........or........fit a diff unit

this is the reason prokarts and gearbox karts are 4rail+ and use really thick tubing you simply cant pick the rear inner up with a lot of weight on it on an old 100 chassis

HTH

Pugo
m8 its a drag kart built only for the strip i dont plan on trying to turn it round corners
we used 28mil thick steel rod to make it longer m8 and we are using some hefty steel plate to go under it to brace it
Old 22-04-2005, 09:01 AM
  #16  
!mouse-oxford!
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
Thread Starter
 
!mouse-oxford!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: oxfordshire
Posts: 632
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by * Rudey *
limo kart why mate?
it has to be that big for the engine and seat to go on m8
plus ive also got a kaw gt 750cc engine to go in it when ive had enough of the 400cc engine so the kart had to be big enough to put any bike engine in.
Old 22-04-2005, 04:46 PM
  #17  
Adam Ash
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Adam Ash's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Not far from here
Posts: 3,992
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Check out this lunatic

theres some videos on the site, but they are big.


this nutter puts lights on his bike engined go-kart, then goes out racing cars at night on dual carriageways


http://www.kartvader.com/

Old 22-04-2005, 07:26 PM
  #18  
!mouse-oxford!
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
Thread Starter
 
!mouse-oxford!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: oxfordshire
Posts: 632
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Adam Ash
Check out this lunatic

theres some videos on the site, but they are big.


this nutter puts lights on his bike engined go-kart, then goes out racing cars at night on dual carriageways


http://www.kartvader.com/

Old 22-04-2005, 07:30 PM
  #19  
pugo
Advanced PassionFord User
 
pugo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: benfleet, essex
Posts: 2,444
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

still think you should have used an old g/box kart(it has vented discs allround for a start), thats what we did and fitted cbr600 lump on it next to the drivers seat, we just shifted the the seat over to compensate for the weight !

still not as fast as a 250E kart though
Old 22-04-2005, 09:55 PM
  #20  
morcheen
Advanced PassionFord User
 
morcheen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: london
Posts: 2,183
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Default

luckily not many bends at santa pod ,my brothers got an old 250cc geared kart,with massive rear twin spoiler thing,not sure what year it was made.
Old 22-04-2005, 11:40 PM
  #21  
pugo
Advanced PassionFord User
 
pugo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: benfleet, essex
Posts: 2,444
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

5spd or 6spd??????your bro's 250

re:your lack of bends................ i was clocked at 168mph(on the public highway ) in it........and round silverstone i hit 142mph.........i had four cross drilled vented discs with carbon race pads in em four pots on the front...singles on the back..............by lap four they used to start fading.and you had to lay off the brakes...............you are going to do possibly 170 mph.....with what looks like a sngle non vented disc rated for a maximum speed of about70mph.....held onto what looks like a 30mm axle with a 6mm key onto an alloy hsg
i think you will lose the brakes at just over the ton.........have you thought this through

do you know what a kart with 6 inch rims, no suspension and a 1950's designed steering colomn feels like at 150mph

the vibration is so bad you cannot see your feet 4ft in front of you and as your ass is 2 inch's from the floor the sense of speed is fookin unbelievable , it feels like the world has been put on fast forward

your seat is wrong too, you will need a long circuit seat as you will not be able to hold your head up at that speed (m/cyclists tuck in behind fairings at 120+ and sit leaning forward)

HTH

Pugo
Old 23-04-2005, 07:35 AM
  #22  
Red16
10K+ Poster!!
 
Red16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: South Shields
Posts: 10,788
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by CasperR
Anybody remember that vis of the cart with the gsxr engine?
im helping my mate build a gsxr 750 engine kart at the minute
Old 23-04-2005, 11:35 PM
  #23  
Steve Rowe
15000
 
Steve Rowe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i just sold this



used the runing gear off a quad bike big red 500
Old 01-05-2005, 01:42 PM
  #25  
pugo
Advanced PassionFord User
 
pugo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: benfleet, essex
Posts: 2,444
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

im comming to you when i build mine top info matey what the fook did 160 on the road in 1 of them feel like man thats were its at on the edge
it was probably the most stupidest thing i have ever decided to do and it was all over a silly fookin bet in a pub with a couple of bikers who thought there bikes where really fast 2wheel vs 4 wheeled usual arguement

when i hit the 16k rev limit in 6th and looked next to me this bloke was there on his bike hanging on for dear life..........the fookin noise coming from his bike was amazing..............................i couldn't go any faster and neither could he

typical biker though, when i loaded the kart back into the van he was telling his mate how he was flat out at just over 170mph right next to me, by the time we got back to the pub the next night he had pulled 195mph
my data logger showed a top speed of 160.9mph

i showed him my laptop, then explained how i had stayed with him on a 250

Pugo

it was the biggest adrenalyn rush i have ever had
Old 01-05-2005, 07:13 PM
  #26  
tenacious lee
15000
 
tenacious lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Uk, England, Norfolk
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I can't even begin to imagine the speed. It sounds nuts.
Old 03-05-2005, 03:56 PM
  #27  
darkmaster
15000
 
darkmaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: coatbridge
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

can any of you give me some advice and the spec's for how to build one of these go carts,as im dying to build one.

cheers

david
Old 04-05-2005, 08:39 PM
  #28  
pugo
Advanced PassionFord User
 
pugo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: benfleet, essex
Posts: 2,444
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

best tip is........buy an old g/box kart for the conversion as it will have most of the important bits on it!!!!

Old 04-05-2005, 10:37 PM
  #29  
darkmaster
15000
 
darkmaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: coatbridge
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

how much and were will i get a decent cart from?
Old 04-05-2005, 10:50 PM
  #30  
pugo
Advanced PassionFord User
 
pugo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: benfleet, essex
Posts: 2,444
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

www.ukkarting.co.uk or ebay........you want an old g/box kart if your converting, if you just want some fun by a 250 g/box 250n is 5speed 250e is 6speed and goes like fook
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
dojj
General Car Related Discussion.
111
10-06-2018 09:09 PM
nico12
Restorations, Rebuilds & Projects.
6
31-12-2015 04:42 PM
nicodinho
Ford Non RS / XR / ST parts for sale.
6
07-10-2015 12:56 PM
Mikersturbo
Restorations, Rebuilds & Projects.
0
27-09-2015 07:43 PM
IainRS1700T
Cars for Sale
9
25-09-2015 06:44 AM



Quick Reply: Im building my gokart at last (400cc babyblade)



All times are GMT. The time now is 04:08 PM.