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Old 30-06-2008, 11:30 AM
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Posted from interest in the other topic.

It's a D16Z6, 123bhp 1.6 sohc vtec.

Engine spec is.

Eagle rod's.
YCP pistons (very cheap)
Standard block just honed/glaze busted. 0.004" p2w clearance at largest point.
ACL bearings
Gen honda head gasket.
ARP head studs.
Modified oil pump original 144k mile pump :O
Modified block and girdle for rods to fit.
Head work by myself.
Cheap cast manifold, (soon to make a new 1 but you never get time to do my own car)

Hondata s300, socketed and mapped by me.

6 paddle clutch, custom flywheel, (extra clamping force)

I think that's about it really engine wise.

At brunters it did
0-30 in 2.07
0-60 in 4.76 (did 58mph at the time in second gear )
0-100 in 8.93
quarter in 12.53 at 119.6 (limiter in 4th)

140.6 limiter in 5th i did raise the limiter but couldn't be bothered to do another top speed run as it was never going to be very good.

On the day the car weighed 930kg's plus fuel and me.

It's since had plastic windows and about 30kg's of weight removed from inside the car.

New engine will be built when i get chance for TOTB.
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The car was running 12psi the day before brunters, so i went out that night and to map it, i got to 14psi before it started to rain. It was spinning at 105mph in the wet so i had to call it a day.

I finished the map on the way down to brunters and decided it was quick enough when we had a play with a Bentley GT.

I did a couple of run's and a few tweak's on the day. Ended up running 1.5 bar, 23psi to you ford people on a t34 57 trim, 0.63 rear housing.

I ran 12psi for about 6k miles on a standard engine, till it eventually and inevitable bent a rod. The rod was hitting the block and it sounded like the car had spun a shell. See the replacements at the side of it

The new rod and piston combo mean the piston sit 1mm below deck height. (This proved usefull when i hit 10500rpm's shifting from 3rd to second, the only thing that broke was the rotor arm off the dissy. I limped home running some serious antilag'esque timing.)



The first mod (not usually the order people do it)


Back to standard wheels

It's first ever run, (brunters)


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fantastic little pocket rocket

allmost sleeper status that dont like like a car thats going to hit 100 in under 9
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Originally Posted by Fil
fantastic little pocket rocket

allmost sleeper status that dont like like a car thats going to hit 100 in under 9
Ignore the chav wheels they were the only thing's wearing decent rubber on the day.

Kinda ruin the sleeper look with the plastic windows now though
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Mega little car.
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thats well cool mate i had a 1.4 civic a few years back it was rapid for a 1.4 i raced a mk5 xr3i and a mk3 fiesta rs1800 bet both no problem my mate had an n reg 1.6 civic vtec that was quick as well but with a turbo i bet it goes like stink proper little sleeper ive got a mk1 golf just now gls shell g60 steel wheels packing a 2.8 vr6 engine turbocharged its a proper wee rocket and turns a few heads when you put the foot down il keep an eye on this thread to see how your getting on

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Thats an awesome little build and it has done some good numbers.

What sort of suspension are you using to help get traction?
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Originally Posted by AquariousRS
Thats an awesome little build and it has done some good numbers.

What sort of suspension are you using to help get traction?
ITR shocks and springs. Remember this was done on a budget.

I a mate some new shocks and he gave me his old 1s

The rear need's to go stiffer and the front need's to be a little lower with anti lift stops.

This is an everyday car i don't want it to be 2 stiff. it's cool to be able to pick up a spare engine, then out drag an R6 on the way back home

On the brunters testing day i also averaged 29.5mpg, i tanked up on the m1 drove all the way down mapping it, hammered it at brunters had a steady drive home in traffic and tanked it back up.
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wicked car, Got some driveshaft shop cro-moly drive shafts and apex coil overs along with 2 B16 engines if you got any people after things. I was building a turbo'd vtec for drag racing but work load has never left me time to build it so selling off all the parts, The civic's are great little cars though, Keep up the good work.
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Originally Posted by Danny B
wicked car, Got some driveshaft shop cro-moly drive shafts and apex coil overs along with 2 B16 engines if you got any people after things. I was building a turbo'd vtec for drag racing but work load has never left me time to build it so selling off all the parts, The civic's are great little cars though, Keep up the good work.
PM me a price and roughly whats there with the b16s mate.
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Looks mental

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i already have done 4 turbo civics, some very impressive...
put some Rc 550cc/min injectors, and in the new engine put a Block Guard
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Originally Posted by FQ200turbo
i already have done 4 turbo civics, some very impressive...
put some Rc 550cc/min injectors, and in the new engine put a Block Guard
I ran some 560 Evo injectors last time and maxed them out. (with a resistor box)

Block guards aren't good IMO. The cooling won't be as good, they will expand at a different rate to the block and liners. All the highest powered D's in the US don't run guards. It needs some solid liners in there but the idea of the car is to be a budget build. Hence, no RC injectors, and no liners.

I could do with some RC750's though now.
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Fecking ace is that. Do you have a diff in it?
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Originally Posted by DaveJB
Fecking ace is that. Do you have a diff in it?
Yes.... An open 1

Again, budget car. I think i'm going to weld a diff up for TOTB, and drive the car there and back on 1 shaft.
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Nah, you'll be fine with both shafts.

It's only a pain in the arse when turning at slow speeds, as it drags the inside tyre.

Nice setup!!!
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how hard is the loom to do i wount mind haven a go at doing it goes like fu*k lol how much has it cost you all in
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Originally Posted by stembo21
how hard is the loom to do i wount mind haven a go at doing it goes like fu*k lol how much has it cost you all in
Ł2100, but the wheel's aren't mine, but i do have 2 set's of VTI alloys in that price.

As for the loom there ok to do with the right tools.

Dave Bull, thanks for that, i was going to try it around local roads but it's a 250 mile round trip to pod haha.

Are you planning another micra?
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Originally Posted by RickyLee53
Dave Bull, thanks for that, i was going to try it around local roads but it's a 250 mile round trip to pod haha.

Are you planning another micra?
Nah, I'm done with FWD cars, as you are always fighting wioth traction issues.

I built an Almera GTi with what was left over from the Micra, but have just sold it to a friend.

Really nice car to drive, starts first time, idles and drives nice.

Made 350 WHP at 1 BAR boost on a GT30R at AVA in Glasgow.

It posted a best of 13.5 @ 117.5 about 6 weeks ago at Crail.

Not bad for a car that was driven to the track, raced with full interior, inc. jack and spare and driven home with no issues.

Oh and wheelspin all the way through 1st and 2nd gear...LOL!

Good to see someone doing a fast Civic without the use of a B or K series engine.

Good luck with the car and keep us updated with the progress.

Cheers

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P.S. Have you seen Blueridge Motorsport's Civic with it's D16 + GT35?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4_KciSApFg8
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fMz4zmg-OOA

The 2nd video is better!

Quite quick!

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Originally Posted by Dave Bull
Nah, I'm done with FWD cars, as you are always fighting wioth traction issues.

I built an Almera GTi with what was left over from the Micra, but have just sold it to a friend.

Really nice car to drive, starts first time, idles and drives nice.

Made 350 WHP at 1 BAR boost on a GT30R at AVA in Glasgow.

It posted a best of 13.5 @ 117.5 about 6 weeks ago at Crail.

Not bad for a car that was driven to the track, raced with full interior, inc. jack and spare and driven home with no issues.

Oh and wheelspin all the way through 1st and 2nd gear...LOL!

Good to see someone doing a fast Civic without the use of a B or K series engine.

Good luck with the car and keep us updated with the progress.

Cheers

Dave

P.S. Have you seen Blueridge Motorsport's Civic with it's D16 + GT35?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4_KciSApFg8
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fMz4zmg-OOA

The 2nd video is better!

Quite quick!
Not seen that car before, in the US the do 9s though!

Traction is always a problem, but part of the fun in FWD. I've got an Evo as a main car.

My car spins 1st 2nd and 3rd on the strip with r888's needs some chassis work and wrinkle walls really.

I went for the D series to be different, nobody touches them in this country it seems.

Nice power you made, the GT30's seem to always make good power at low boost.
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Originally Posted by RickyLee53
Yes.... An open 1

Again, budget car. I think i'm going to weld a diff up for TOTB, and drive the car there and back on 1 shaft.
Very impressive performance and times to say you've got no diff. Look forward to seeing you at TOTB
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The new engine is all stripped down now, just waiting for pistons then i can send the block of to be machined. It's going to be pretty close getting the new engine mapped etc before TOTB, pistons will be a week, block will be a couple of days after that.

I made a new collector for the new manifold last night so that should be ready, i'm hoping to get a week for running in and mapping. But i can see this been another map on the way down.

Old engine will be out tonight.
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Originally Posted by Danny B
wicked car, Got some driveshaft shop cro-moly drive shafts and apex coil overs along with 2 B16 engines if you got any people after things. I was building a turbo'd vtec for drag racing but work load has never left me time to build it so selling off all the parts, The civic's are great little cars though, Keep up the good work.
How much do you need for the coil overs please?
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Stripped 2 engines last night and gathered all the bit's to build a nice 1. Only waiting on a GEN headgasket now and it can be built back up for TOTB.

Picking some RC750s up later, but there low IMP and the ECU is high impedance.

A few internal thing's i'm doing slightly different this time.

Then i better start on the chassis work.

After TOTB this car is going onto LPG.
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i built a couple of turbo's for a fellow around the corner to me he's name is mark run's a couple of civic's he's doing a fellow's car he's name is eddy that quick i've been out in it,
mark mapp's the ecu's
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Amazing car mate, proper little pocket rocket.

Were you just running the turbo setup on a standard engine when the rod went?

I wouldn't mind doing this myself...
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Originally Posted by keithg3334
Amazing car mate, proper little pocket rocket.

Were you just running the turbo setup on a standard engine when the rod went?

I wouldn't mind doing this myself...
Looks like you've signed up to just reply to this thread :thumbs:

Yes i was just running a 100% standard engine, on the ar5e dyno i reckon it was doing over 250bhp, It was in full trim then so 1040kg's and it was slightly quicker than a 320bhp evo.
The engine had done 144,000 when i stripped it i reckon it was on the stock head gasket from the factory and the history suggest it had only had 1 cambelt change!
I didn't deliberately break it, but pushed well beyond it's capable limit's knowing what was going to happen. I wouldn't do this to some1 else's car but i don't mind on my own.

If you need anything drop me a PM.
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Originally Posted by RickyLee53
Looks like you've signed up to just reply to this thread :thumbs:

Yes i was just running a 100% standard engine, on the ar5e dyno i reckon it was doing over 250bhp, It was in full trim then so 1040kg's and it was slightly quicker than a 320bhp evo.
The engine had done 144,000 when i stripped it i reckon it was on the stock head gasket from the factory and the history suggest it had only had 1 cambelt change!
I didn't deliberately break it, but pushed well beyond it's capable limit's knowing what was going to happen. I wouldn't do this to some1 else's car but i don't mind on my own.

If you need anything drop me a PM.
Thanks mate...

I actually had another username when I had my old S2 RST but I've lost it

PM on the way lol...
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Originally Posted by keithg3334
Thanks mate...

I actually had another username when I had my old S2 RST but I've lost it

PM on the way lol...
Ah right, not far off though

PM replied.
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good job with the car.

i have a rover 216 coupe and am looking to do the same work on it. did you have any problems when doing the work or is there any advice you can give before i start ripping the engine to bits.

any help would be appreiciated

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Originally Posted by gtiruby
good job with the car.

i have a rover 216 coupe and am looking to do the same work on it. did you have any problems when doing the work or is there any advice you can give before i start ripping the engine to bits.

any help would be appreiciated

cheers
Not really as most of the things depend on each car. I made most of the things on mine, moreso now, new manifold downpipe full exhaust etc i've made myself.

I'l send you a PM of a few bit's.
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Quick update, i'l get some damage pic's when i can.

I broke a shaft which in turn broke a box 2 day's before.

I changed the shaft, then the day after realised I had to change the box.

Anyway finally got to map it and got a puncture on the m1. I got home about half 11 on sat night. Got up at 6 to finish mapping on sunday and broke the turbo (very bent shaft, smashed core etc) The shaft stop so quick the nut came off the impellor side.

So with a new turbo fitted at the side of the M18 on the way to TOTB we set back off, did about 5 miles of mapping and thought we'd got it pretty good.

Car was slow on the day, only managed 112 over the line, and was running rich.

I did 4th in handling (on my first go, and then spun on the second go with no time to do a 3rd run)

And 7th in drag. 12.53 at 110mph. The car was going pretty good off the line, just had no power (was really rich in 4th, higher boost levels)
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looks very good mate-spesh considering the budget you have,

I have an ek9 and im doing a turbo build at the mo, getting mapped next tuesday hoping for around 450bhp

Brief spec
Benson/laskey 83mm sleeved block cp pistons pauter rods
EK9 head, cams inlet etc.
t3/t4 60 trim
SLS shorty mani
rc 750s
AEM ems ecu + boost solenoid
EK9 box
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Originally Posted by Dave_YD
looks very good mate-spesh considering the budget you have,

I have an ek9 and im doing a turbo build at the mo, getting mapped next tuesday hoping for around 450bhp

Brief spec
Benson/laskey 83mm sleeved block cp pistons pauter rods
EK9 head, cams inlet etc.
t3/t4 60 trim
SLS shorty mani
rc 750s
AEM ems ecu + boost solenoid
EK9 box
Should be nice.

How much was the sleeved block? I need to take this step

Who's doing the mapping?

Any pic's or a build thread?

I've just got my new turbo,

1 on the right, left is a GT28 i'm fitting on the Starlet.

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Originally Posted by RickyLee53
Should be nice.

How much was the sleeved block? I need to take this step

Who's doing the mapping?

Any pic's or a build thread?

I've just got my new turbo,

1 on the right, left is a GT28 i'm fitting on the Starlet.

brand new blocks can be bought for a bout 2.2k delivered from the states

Thor racing are mapping it, uunfortunately not tomorrow anymore..its not ready new date is september 5th

I havnt got a build thread

what turbo are you putting on?


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