Rear Engined Fiesta mk3 - Small update...
09-10-2007, 06:03 PM
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Rear Engined Fiesta mk3 - Small update...
My Mk2 is nearly finished now, its got to a stage I iam happy with as ive had it over 2 years now, and its having a photoshoot for Performance Ford magazine in the next few weeks to finish up the project nicely.
One thing i always kind of regretted was not setting up a resto thread, and been looking for something different as a new project now. So got a bit lucky with this project:
'Crazycage' from here built the car up to the spec you see it here, I plan to finish it up and tidy it up. Old thread:
https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...853&highlight=
Its got soooo much potential iam so looking forward to turning it into a total monster. however it also needs a lot of work, mainly body wise. Still should keep me tied over
Plan is to put my Zetec Turbo from my XR2 in the back for now, and begin building another engine for the front depending on how well i get on with the rear engined concept
Should be fun! What do people think?
One thing i always kind of regretted was not setting up a resto thread, and been looking for something different as a new project now. So got a bit lucky with this project:
'Crazycage' from here built the car up to the spec you see it here, I plan to finish it up and tidy it up. Old thread:
https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...853&highlight=
Its got soooo much potential iam so looking forward to turning it into a total monster. however it also needs a lot of work, mainly body wise. Still should keep me tied over
Plan is to put my Zetec Turbo from my XR2 in the back for now, and begin building another engine for the front depending on how well i get on with the rear engined concept
Should be fun! What do people think?
09-10-2007, 10:28 PM
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Radders: Not quite sure, but most likely strip, its what ive always been most interested in really 
This is the engine currently in the XR2, due to go in the back of the mk3:
And the seats i am thinking of swapping over too to make it light weight:
This is the engine currently in the XR2, due to go in the back of the mk3:
And the seats i am thinking of swapping over too to make it light weight:
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09-10-2007, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
I was gonna say, It'd be a cunt to make it handle 'properly' for track
Would put in some good times I reckon though RWD
Would put in some good times I reckon though RWD
09-10-2007, 10:46 PM
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you should build a twin engine mk3 mate do you remember that green rs turbo pickup with the twin rs turbo engines
thats just crying out for low 11s on the strip, 2 x 300bhp zetec turbo engines
or even it in the boot would be a laugh
any way i'll keep my eye on this one mate good luck
thats just crying out for low 11s on the strip, 2 x 300bhp zetec turbo engines
or even it in the boot would be a laugh
any way i'll keep my eye on this one mate good luck
09-10-2007, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by XRT_si
Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
I was gonna say, It'd be a cunt to make it handle 'properly' for track
Would put in some good times I reckon though RWD
Would put in some good times I reckon though RWD
Make it as adjustable as you want, The engine will be to far over the wheels IMO
Chris Todds, although not adjustable, understeers like a twat big time due to engine placement, been it it a few time Simon
Good fun in a straight line though
09-10-2007, 11:41 PM
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Paul - the welder aint coming just yet
Smitsturbo - Yes mate, I cant help thinking that more and more everytime i look at it, twin 250-300bhp Zetec Turbo engines = 500-600bhp 4WD fiesta
11s will defo be on the cards 
Radders - Fair enough, as i said just see how i get on with the RWD for awhile. Its a long way off just yet
Smitsturbo - Yes mate, I cant help thinking that more and more everytime i look at it, twin 250-300bhp Zetec Turbo engines = 500-600bhp 4WD fiesta
11s will defo be on the cards
Radders - Fair enough, as i said just see how i get on with the RWD for awhile. Its a long way off just yet
10-10-2007, 04:31 PM
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trust me when I say it will be horrid, and i mean horrid, to drive.
wont feel like a RWD tho, not a front engine RWD anyhow.
potentially VERY fast down the strip tho
wont feel like a RWD tho, not a front engine RWD anyhow.
potentially VERY fast down the strip tho
10-10-2007, 05:02 PM
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not understeer or oversteer as such, thats gonna depend on the setup and spec, just the weight is in the wrong place for it to be nice and predictable, it will be a snappy POS to drive, there no getting around that.
if you dont completely seal off the engine from passenger compartment you will hate to drive it due to the noise and smell.
the rear compartment will get constantly covered in shite due to it now being open to the elements.
do your cooling setup VERY carefully as its really easy to either get it not working well, or if the rads at the front, massive head gasket blowing airlocks in the system.
if you dont completely seal off the engine from passenger compartment you will hate to drive it due to the noise and smell.
the rear compartment will get constantly covered in shite due to it now being open to the elements.
do your cooling setup VERY carefully as its really easy to either get it not working well, or if the rads at the front, massive head gasket blowing airlocks in the system.
10-10-2007, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Originally Posted by rst in progress
Do they understeer bad?
I very much doubt you'll be able to drift one, if you do, it'll probably roll
10-10-2007, 05:05 PM
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With the geometry set right they wont understeer bad, but id much rather they did understeer, as soon as they oversteer you will be going round.
Short wheelbase, not much lock, weight in the back, and thats on a car thats factory made to be like that like a Clio V6, factor in the fact DIY ones are cobbled together from 2 sets of front ends etc, and your in a whole world of "not much fun".
From Clio V6s and MR2s to these various home brewed ones, they inspire no confidence at all on the cornering limit.
If you want to push a RWD car to the limit, get a front engine one.
Short wheelbase, not much lock, weight in the back, and thats on a car thats factory made to be like that like a Clio V6, factor in the fact DIY ones are cobbled together from 2 sets of front ends etc, and your in a whole world of "not much fun".
From Clio V6s and MR2s to these various home brewed ones, they inspire no confidence at all on the cornering limit.
If you want to push a RWD car to the limit, get a front engine one.
10-10-2007, 07:34 PM
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I didnt expect it to handle amazingly well, just adequate, as my XR2 doesnt go round corners very well with rock hard rear shocks and lowered front, was built for strip too though.
I spoke breifly with chip about the twitchness of the rear end so know what to expect, drifting aint my thing, or maybe it is but iam yet to discover it and certainly dont intend to in this car anway
Quarter mile monster sounds good to me
Steve - remember our conversation about the twin charged Zetec engine? Well this is what i had in mind to allow some traction
I spoke breifly with chip about the twitchness of the rear end so know what to expect, drifting aint my thing, or maybe it is but iam yet to discover it and certainly dont intend to in this car anway
Quarter mile monster sounds good to me
Steve - remember our conversation about the twin charged Zetec engine? Well this is what i had in mind to allow some traction
10-10-2007, 08:11 PM
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In 2 minds whether to build a silly billy spec twin charged Zetec engine (with nos ) or 2 'low spec' engines running standard rods, low comps, T34s and live mapped on OFAB.
First things first, sorting the body out. Its going to be given a full XR2i kit - including blue strips, orange indiecators and original badges, opening rear quarters and maybe standard alloys.
Going to be in the bodyshop for awhile me thinks
After that - full roll cage.
Nice pic in your sig radders
) or 2 'low spec' engines running standard rods, low comps, T34s and live mapped on OFAB.First things first, sorting the body out. Its going to be given a full XR2i kit - including blue strips, orange indiecators and original badges, opening rear quarters and maybe standard alloys.
Going to be in the bodyshop for awhile me thinks
After that - full roll cage.
Nice pic in your sig radders
10-10-2007, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by crazycage
hope you have some fun building it up mate and look forward to seeing you at the pod in in the summer
11-10-2007, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by crazycage
hope you have some fun building it up mate and look forward to seeing you at the pod in in the summer
11-10-2007, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by crazycage
Originally Posted by rst in progress
Originally Posted by crazycage
hope you have some fun building it up mate and look forward to seeing you at the pod in in the summer
15-10-2007, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DanCossie
Good luck mate............glad my days of gettin dirty are over all though i think a few stella nights on this one will be on the cards
Iam thinking of buying shares in Stella, its needs a lot of work. Wil be a true monster when its done though
08-11-2007, 03:14 PM
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Finally an update
XR2 had its photoshoot, but the Zetec Turbo engine will be staying in it for a bit longer yet, got a few more plans for more power and a strict diet
For the mk3 i been busy trying to find a good donor XR2i as i decided this was the easiest way to get good panels and a wealth of tiny silly things such as seat belts, door cards, trim as well as important things such as gear linkage, wiring loom, kit etc... so planning to strip this car properly.
Car i bought was a bit of a minter, shame to break it in a way as it drove nicely, the guy i bought it off seemed a bit sad when i said i was stripping it as it turned out he polished it every month But needs must
Started stripping this today:
And putting the bits onto this, few pics randomly.
Finished pics tomorrow
Also fitted opening rear quarters to let some heat out:
Plan is to put it on Escort Cossie wheels, and leave it looking virtually as it is i.e. A XR2i replica, but for now 13" XR2i wheels will add to the sleeper elelment
More soon
XR2 had its photoshoot, but the Zetec Turbo engine will be staying in it for a bit longer yet, got a few more plans for more power and a strict diet
For the mk3 i been busy trying to find a good donor XR2i as i decided this was the easiest way to get good panels and a wealth of tiny silly things such as seat belts, door cards, trim as well as important things such as gear linkage, wiring loom, kit etc... so planning to strip this car properly.
Car i bought was a bit of a minter, shame to break it in a way as it drove nicely, the guy i bought it off seemed a bit sad when i said i was stripping it as it turned out he polished it every month
But needs mustStarted stripping this today:
And putting the bits onto this, few pics randomly.
Finished pics tomorrow
Also fitted opening rear quarters to let some heat out:
Plan is to put it on Escort Cossie wheels, and leave it looking virtually as it is i.e. A XR2i replica, but for now 13" XR2i wheels will add to the sleeper elelment
More soon
