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Old 03-07-2015, 02:21 PM
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I've just been a victim of van theft, they took my brand new tools and some tools I've kept well for years..... scum of the earth. NO SIGN OF VAN DAMAGE WHATSOEVER! !!!!!! I thought I was the only one who's van has been broken into without any sign of visual damage...... clearly not!!!! My insurers we're saying I have no tools cover etc!!!! We'll I proved them wrong. I emailed them my policy/schedule.... now I think they'll do whatever they can in order to stop payout! !!! They cannot pay for psychological and emotional damage!!!!! I may be tough on the outside but definitely a softy on the in. ....
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are you looking for passion van?
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Old 03-07-2015, 03:04 PM
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Huh?? Passion ford
Old 03-07-2015, 03:58 PM
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Sorry but common sense these days to remove tools and anything of value .
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I'm not asking for sympathy from people, I wanted to speak with more people whom have had their vehicles broken iinto without physical damage, thanks but no thanks for your obvious advice. Every circumstance is different and you don't know mine. A person has their lively hood taken away and you bring up the 'common sense' card, anyone with 'common sense' would know, now is not a good time.
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Then remove your valuables from your van and you wont be upset or starting a thread about some one taking them .
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Old 03-07-2015, 04:32 PM
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What van?

If it's a Transit, it's the rear door wiring loom trick.
Old 03-07-2015, 06:16 PM
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Mk7 transit? Silly easy to break into. Ive removed my door lock for a high security one as well as fitting dead locks to the other doors.
Old 03-07-2015, 06:19 PM
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new transits very easy to break in to and older ones just need wing mirror taking off
Old 03-07-2015, 06:51 PM
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older fords were getting broken into with these a while back, not sure if the new keys are the same design or not? [ur****************************[/url]

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Old 03-07-2015, 07:21 PM
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I had my old transit done last year no sign of damage I was lucky got nothing taken but my mate lost 1k of power tools the same night on the one night 4 of the same vans were done they can get into them in under 40seconds
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One thing is for sure, if you're a genuine and honest claimant, the insurance company will treat you like a criminal and do everything they can to wriggle out of paying.
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Old 03-07-2015, 10:33 PM
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Well I had the insurers today, made them apologise. They certainly tried to wriggle out of paying...... said I had no 'tools in van' cover. They asked for me to emsil my policy cover as they didn't have same info on their screens to suggest I was covered. Yeah right........... Oh we're so sorry......
Old 03-07-2015, 10:52 PM
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1st post since joining.....
So what van was it?
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59 plate Ford Transit
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whilst i am sorry for your loss as i despise thieves in every way shape and form, leaving anything of value in your van overnight is idiotic
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Originally Posted by botters
whilst i am sorry for your loss as i despise thieves in every way shape and form, leaving anything of value in your van overnight is idiotic

What a stupid thing to say.

That's like saying if your house gets broken into and everything stolen, you should have had everything in a secure compound.

Anyone who actually uses a van for work purposes in the likes of construction industry, it is totally impractical to empty the van every night.
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Thank you for your support, some people have facilities in place to empty out your van and others don't, I am one who don't. I live with family and have no garage or lock up close by, maybe I should carry all my tools into my bedroom! :s

It was a stupid thing to say....

Someone has their livelihood taken away from them and people have the audacity to name people as 'idiotic'.
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Originally Posted by Turbo Zetec
older fords were getting broken into with these a while back, not sure if the new keys are the same design or not? [ur****************************[/url]
The old keys look very similar to the new keys, just the fob seems more bulkier. The actually cut looks very much similar.
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Mk7 transits are super easy to "break" into. You only need a £25 tumbler key and you're in in less than 20 seconds - no damage, no noise, and it will deactivate the dead locks with two turns. By the sounds of it, you didn't have an alarm, why not?
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I am looking at having one installed...... I thought these vans were difficult to get into

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Easier than an Essex girl's knickers after a 6 pack of WKD
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Anyone saying empty out your van every night should get real.
At any given time I probably have over 4k in spare parts, tools and equipment to do my job. No way am I going to empty it out. I just have insurance cover for it.
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It would take me a good hour each day to unload my van of valuable's and then the same again each morning to to put it all back in again. It wouldn't be practical to do this, so i don't.
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Sorry to hear about your theft there mate, welcome to the forum. A guy I know with a transit had had every lock changed for a security lock, it's like a wrap around plate, not sure what it's called, he caught some lads on his cctv trying to get in, there were there for 20 minutes and gave up. Might be worth investing in them. As for emptying the van overnight, all well if u have a couple of bags of tools in the back of an escort van but I know a couple of mobile mechanics and there van would take at least half a day to empty! Shame you've been called some names on here, why people start on the bandwagon of blaming the victim, if it wasn't for thieving scum we wouldn't need to lock everything up like Fort Knox, it's the thieves fault not yours
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Old 04-07-2015, 09:59 PM
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Full respect for those words my friend.... I think the law is too lenient on criminals... we pay taxes, our roads should be policed better and thieves as well as many criminals should not be roaming our streets, anyway that's another debate.
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Originally Posted by gcfcos
Sorry to hear about your theft there mate, welcome to the forum. A guy I know with a transit had had every lock changed for a security lock, it's like a wrap around plate, not sure what it's called, he caught some lads on his cctv trying to get in, there were there for 20 minutes and gave up. Might be worth investing in them. As for emptying the van overnight, all well if u have a couple of bags of tools in the back of an escort van but I know a couple of mobile mechanics and there van would take at least half a day to empty! Shame you've been called some names on here, why people start on the bandwagon of blaming the victim, if it wasn't for thieving scum we wouldn't need to lock everything up like Fort Knox, it's the thieves fault not yours

I cant see anyone being nasty ?? You either empty it or up the security if you cant empty it . Not nice whats happened but I have a van and I leave it empty so I don't become a victim .Nothing is safe so don't take the risk
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Originally Posted by Harris.
I cant see anyone being nasty ?? You either empty it or up the security if you cant empty it . Not nice whats happened but I have a van and I leave it empty so I don't become a victim .Nothing is safe so don't take the risk
Well calling him "idiotic" seemed fairly nasty to me
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Anyone who says to empty the van every night clearly either has no tools in the first place, or never uses their van for work purposes.


It's as stupid as saying you shouldnt lock your tools in the garage overnight in case it gets broken into.
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Or empty out your house and put all expensive items in a vault. Either way a victim is a victim, the victim gets criticised no matter what....... if a man gets attacked and as a result gets stabbed, should he or she have been wearing a stab proof vest???? If you store your tools in your she'd or house, they'll break into your house......Yes I will be installing an alarm on my van but how much should I do? Alarm, empty out van, extra security locks. What I did do back in my early years, not lock the van but just have an alarm set, when a so called oportunist came along they would try the handles and once door opened the alarm would trigger and the perpetrator would scarper!
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Seeing branded, the best money could buy tools leaving your van and going into your house/she'd
in my opinion poses more of a risk.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
What a stupid thing to say.

That's like saying if your house gets broken into and everything stolen, you should have had everything in a secure compound.

Anyone who actually uses a van for work purposes in the likes of construction industry, it is totally impractical to empty the van every night.
I totally agree, where are you meant to store the tools at night in the kitchen sink? I'd of thought that a vehicle that is meant to transport valuables would have decent locks to start with, it's not as if ford are new to the van world.

The transits at my work have plates bolted onto the doors with round padlocks because one of the guy who works here stays in Manchester and had all his tools kindly removed. The joys of living down south.
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Originally Posted by gcfcos
Well calling him "idiotic" seemed fairly nasty to me


Well its not really is it, its more fact !!!!!


And yes like people have said , some cant empty there vans so what you do is up the security on it .
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Anyone who says to empty the van every night clearly either has no tools in the first place, or never uses their van for work purposes.


It's as stupid as saying you shouldnt lock your tools in the garage overnight in case it gets broken into.


Really ? £1000'S worth of tools sitting in a garage , id have more than the standard garage door lock . Simple really
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Harris has all the answers!
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Some people have to park in the street and may live in a flat etc I can't empty my van either as it would take too long but I often bring the two most expensive things out the van so if it gets done I haven't lost the lot
Bloody scum need shooting
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Originally Posted by Harris.
Really ? £1000'S worth of tools sitting in a garage , id have more than the standard garage door lock . Simple really
And you think that would stop them ?


I guess everyone could place their valuables in a secure storage locker facility. Ya know like diamonds, gold, jewellery etc...somewhere so secure it would never get broken into.


Except they broke into that too.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
And you think that would stop them ?


I guess everyone could place their valuables in a secure storage locker facility. Ya know like diamonds, gold, jewellery etc...somewhere so secure it would never get broken into.


Except they broke into that too.

I don't have all the answers at all , as said I have a van WITH MORE THAN THE STANDARD SECURITY ON IT !!!!!!!!!! I wouldn't be that stupid to have items on it with standard locks .


And houses and diamonds have nothing to do with what this thread was started for so get back on track . If you think Loading a mk7 transit up with tools and leaving it parked out on the road is ideal then good luck too you .


Answers , Get security any normal person would say the same !
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Exactly, they were so 'idiotic' to have placed their valuables in safe deposit boxes!
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
And you think that would stop them ?


I guess everyone could place their valuables in a secure storage locker facility. Ya know like diamonds, gold, jewellery etc...somewhere so secure it would never get broken into.


Except they broke into that too.

So twin locks , padlock , alarm wouldn't put you off ? you need to wake up . Same as your example of a house , get an alarm . you have a decent car ,get a tracker .
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