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Old 09-11-2006, 07:15 AM
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m12's are like?as in reliability and what the differences are between the m12 and the 3r other than the 3r having 6 gears and a top speed of 183?
i know the early ones were a 2.5 and later were 3.0 but thats as far as i know
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A mate of mine used his as daily drive during the summer and had no problems

His is a 2.5 and is quick. obviously

Not my cup of tea personally, but he had a tuscan before for about 2 days before it broke. He was loaned another tuscan which also broke. When he got his back it broke again so he got the Noble.

Edited to add - Mk1 Mondeo rear lights
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shock!a tvr breaking,love the looks hate the build. lol at lights but it does have a mondy engine too. i havent driven one yet but really like em.and in a year or so they should have dropped a bit in price,ive found tehm as low as 21k at the moment.but a good 26k car at mo should drop to 23ish i reckon by then.just confused as to what the differences are,and theres the m400 but they are alot more.
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I don't know what the differences are and to be honest they look like overpriced kit cars to me.

There's a place in Chessington called mole valley that deal in TVR's and Nobles, may be worth ringing up or going down there for a chat and a look
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If it were me, I would wait on for the 3.0. If I bought the 2.5, I think I would always be wondering what the other was like.

0-60 time of both cars is fierce (sub 4seconds), and the 0-100 are sub ten seconds! This is a quick car!

I have heard that they suffer from gremlin problems, though I cant offer any specifics. One of my clients has one, and his car was bugged by an electrical fault that cut his power down to almost naff all!

Probably worth it though!!

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when i dropped into scc on sat, pat mentioned that mike (gadget) now owns one......dyno business must be good.

my girlfriend absolutley loves them, above ALL other cars, so got her a driving day in one, which she will be taking soon

have seen a few at motorshows etc, and they always look good, they have a kit car feel, when you get up close, but they look awesome

and the performance is
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tbh they are kit cars to a degree,but a bit better than the norm.no different to tvr or the aeriel atom.im not sure if i,ll like em but want to satisfy my curiosty.may have to go to a dealer and have a snout.
wiring gremlins is just like owning a ford lol.
plus it will only be a toy and not regular use, but im trying to come up with a few options at the mo.i turn 30 next year so maybe a prezzie to myself

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OLD FORD = 2K

NOBLE minimum =20k

i wouldnt really want wiring issues on a car that expensive

wonder if there as unsafe as a it car to crash???
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A mate of mine has just sold his noble, it was a 3.0 gto3 and was awsome performance and unbelivable handling, he had about 6 months with no problems, his only critisism was it has no lsd which made it a bit twitchy but overall one of the best cars for the money, what else is there for Ł25k odd with that sort of style and performance??
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guy in my town had one, was lovely then he sold it and had a f355 and now last time i saw him had a 360
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My best mate has a 3r. Lovely car, v quick he hasnt had too many problems, apart form it doing a few belts. Servicing is fairly expensive but it always will be for a car like that.

They get seriously hot in the cabin and the windows only go half way down which is a little annoying. They do have aircon though.

Been to le man in it for 3 years running now and even drove it this year They are a very quick car but the gearbox does take a bit of getting used to. Seriously quick though and if it had a slightly better gearbox would have no problems keeping up if not going passed my mates fezza 360 cs.
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I think the engine in the Noble is a tuned V6 Ford engine ???
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as paddy says check out the garage in chessington they had about 5 out the front when i went passed a few weeks back.

very suprised they dont have an LSD?! what where they thinking there?

dont do a great deal for me, can think of a lot better for Ł20k (imo!)
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proper cars. Look the bollocks, the ford engine is very very good, handle incredibly and go like hel!
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Originally Posted by SECS
I think the engine in the Noble is a tuned V6 Ford engine ???
Yeah and twin turbo i think. Was the old 2.5V6 mondy engine and now the 3.0 v6.

I LOVE noble's! Maybe one day
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My current favourite "realistic" car for two years time.

Plenty of info on Pistonheads about them - obviously as practical as any two seater "supercar". They feel quite cheap inside - switchgear, and gauges are very low rent, but I don't suppose you're buying one for that!

Make sure it's had the sump mods done if you intend to use it on track.
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Originally Posted by ballin
as paddy says check out the garage in chessington they had about 5 out the front when i went passed a few weeks back.

very suprised they dont have an LSD?! what where they thinking there?

dont do a great deal for me, can think of a lot better for Ł20k (imo!)
i do love the look of the noble and it definately aint as expensive as owning a porsche or ferrari.but what else is there?suggestions are welcome.
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
My current favourite "realistic" car for two years time.

Plenty of info on Pistonheads about them - obviously as practical as any two seater "supercar". They feel quite cheap inside - switchgear, and gauges are very low rent, but I don't suppose you're buying one for that!

Make sure it's had the sump mods done if you intend to use it on track.
if i track one it wont be often.lovely little cars,look smart,go well and apparently handle well. not fussed on insides(i own a saff )

whats the sump mod? i will look on pistonheads and see what they say then i think cheerz mate
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Nice cars and go very well. Often the only thing that gives me a run for my money in the Westy on track days.

Engines are the weak link though. Mate of mine worked on the dev for turbocharging the V6 Ford and now builds them. He reckons the engines are great until you turbo charge it when the problems begin. I remember him saying they have reliability issues and dont do too many miles before going bang or melting very easily.
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They do a baffled sump to stop oil surge, good for track days.
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My current favourite "realistic" car
I am exactly the same!
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but were are the dogs gona go

I say he should buy one for his 30th birthday (and of course he shouldnt take the keys to work with him every day that i'm at home )
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Originally Posted by polly_x
He reckons the engines are great until you turbo charge it when the problems begin.
Typcal ford engine
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Originally Posted by ballin
very suprised they dont have an LSD?! what where they thinking there?
to make it less tailhappy and driver friendly as most people cant drive for shit.

same reason most companies claiming to have a LSD as standard have such weak ass LSDs its barely any different to standard.

and same reason most cars have very understeer biast suspension geometry.
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As said, Check out PistonHeads forums... there is a section there for Nobles. in fact here, ya go: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?f=26&h=0


I remember reading that the early 2.5's are known to have problems with the ECU. A different ECU was fitted the later cars, and many ppl have upgraded the early ones anyway now.

I live in Chessington, just minutes from the Mole Valley Dealership that specialises in Noble and TVR. Have to drool over those cars every other week, and sometimes just stop for a quick look!

steve
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cheers mate i,ll keep those probs in mind,really want the 3.0 if i do get one.
good to see that even the boys on pistonheads with ferraris and lambos etc still bicker like some of the people on here dont matter how much money you have,you can still attract knobs!
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Originally Posted by Racey
but were are the dogs gona go

I say he should buy one for his 30th birthday (and of course he shouldnt take the keys to work with him every day that i'm at home )
the dogs can go in the megane and like it hun! and are you sure you want the keys to another rwd car
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