jontysafe

Hello there,

Curious to see if anyone is using one of these bad boys.

Features at the price point are amazing. Can be had for £399!! They have already mapped a few ybs and have a plug and play adapter. Cop option as well as dizzy and wasted spark. I'm finding out some more details ref mapping.

Apparently the hardware and software is uk designed by ex Lotus tech and unit is built in Poland.

There's not a lot about end user experiences on the net yet apart from MR2 forum and a couple of others.

I'm well aware that standalone ecu installations are more the skill of the installation and mapping but the hardware doesn't half look good.
http://www.topendpower.pl/p/en/ecu-m-emu/emu+-+engine+management+unit+-+stand+alone.html

Sonic Boom

iTrader: (11)

I have one fitted to mine 3 Door mate and it's a great piece of kid some excellent features that you'd usually on find on high end ECU's.
If you give Dyno Torque a bell in Bimingham they do supply and fit and you can talk to the installer he knows a far more than me (alot of it goes over my head)
Rich

jontysafe

Hello Rich

Wow I didn't realise you were running one. I have seen the vids of your car and it's awesome.

Will it run peak and hold low impedence injectors?

What features do you use?

Mark Shead

Choose your mapper first that is more important.

Mark

jontysafe

Which is why I commented as such in my original post.

I know you are a vipec and autronic dealer Mark but would you care to comment in the arorementioned ecu. Obviously if it was in the right mappers hands?

Sonic Boom

iTrader: (11)

Ye it runs my ASNU 1100cc Low Impedence injectors fine it'll idle lovely and cruises along off boost at around the 13.6 AFR mark.

Of course the obvious Launch Control and Anti Lag features I use alot, there's loads of tables which most I have to admit I don't understand.
You can run multi maps, dash control boost control if you don't want to run flat out all the time my boost control is also TPS controlled to so unless you have the pedal mashed to the floor it wont give you full boost a nice feature I have to say.
It can run DBW which will be fitted to mine over the winter so you can really make use of the Traction Control.
Not really any use to us Cossie owner but it can control VVT and Canbus systems.
I'm going to be trying the Flat Shift too but we'll have to see if the T5 Syncros are up to it.

It also a Blue Tooth Adaptor so you can connect a Tablet or Smart Phone to it (currently only Andriod but iPhone software is being worked on) and you can read every sensor off the engine and all the gauges the ECU outputs.

Here's a quick screen shot:



Rich

Mark Shead

I looked at the software a while ago and did not like how the tables where displayed as from mem it's scaled revs go up and load goes across the screen which is completely opposite from all the Ecus I map.
I could not find a way to swap it in the software so decided against mapping them. It may be a great ecu but the user interface has to work for the mapper. This is why I don't map life syvecs pectel and I only choose to map Emtron Autronic vipec.

Mark

Mark Shead

Cruise at 13.6 I would have told him not to be so lazy and lean it off some lol.

Mark

Sonic Boom

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It does still need alot of tweeking and alot of this will (hopefully) addressed over winter.
Have to say I do love my new 7670

Rich

jontysafe

Thank you for commenting Mark.

Always nice to hear from the experts.

Having lost my engine twice in 5000 miles I will be thinking very carefully about mapping.

I would love to go BW.

Mark Shead

With a good ecu you can enable lots of safety functions to avoid problems. You can acount for everything other than a bad biuld and faulty parts.

Mark

jontysafe

Rich,

What part of the mapping needs finishing off? How long has the mapping taken so far?

Just how different is the 7670 compared to gtx?

MalZon

There is a new ECU called MaxxECU from Maxxtuning i Sweden. I got it in my Cossie

http://www.maxxtuning.se/maxxecu/



Regards/Jonas

Mark Shead

He will say the 7670 is on a diff planet.
How many chargeable hours of mapping would be interesting.

Mark

Mark Shead

Looks like £1200 plus shipping and taxes. So not a bad price it would be I testing to see one in the flesh and how it works.

Mark

jontysafe

So 3 times more than the ECU Master EMU........

Plus can you get mapped in Uk?

Mark Shead

That's why you choose your mapper then ask him if he would map something new. I for one would take a look at the software.

Mark

jontysafe

Debatable whether I could go twin scroll because of space constraints. The 4x4 exh mani JUST fits.

Mark Shead

It would be custom made on a car like yours.

Mark

jontysafe

That will be the long term plan then Mark and trying to fit a decent inlet manifold. Rather like the look of the jenvey as the inlet can be top or bottom left or right. Great design.

You are right, chargeable hours on the dyno and the mappers expertise with his ecu of choice can make all the difference on a completed price. It's not all about ecu hardware cost I suppose.

I have bought CP pistons, acl standard/standard bearings, crank has been sent away for checking and come back ok. 4x 4 oil pump and oil cooler, wrc head gasket and top and bottom gasket sets.

Engine is being built by Basset Down balancing. Major expense is the head repair from the det though.

Mark Shead

So the engine melted itself.

Mark

jontysafe

When I had it rebuilt we changed from BD14 inlet standard exh to BD16 in and BD14 ex and went to town on porting and polishing and went double valve springs.

Car was booked for a live map but the week before I holed a piston having a silly tete a tete with a GTR. I knew it was probably running lean at high rpm but I just couldn't help myself. Stupid boy

Mark Shead

That may make you more sensible in the future.
If you add ecu functions like wideband closed loop fuel pressure fuel temp and knock sensor it should make it as safe as you can be.

Mark

Martin-Hadland

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I wouldn't risk using a £400 aftermarket ecu on an expensive engine..

Sonic Boom

iTrader: (11)

The EMU has those too it can "limp mode" or switch off the engine for;
Low Oil Pressure
Low Fuel Pressure
High EGT
Knock

As for the 7670 it's far and beyond better than the GTX you can feel it working from as low down as 2500rpm.
When I said alot of tweeking not really with the main map just little things like cold start and lean it off abit more at cruise and so on.
Plus i'm going DBW over winter so alot will need altering then too.

Rich

Sonic Boom

iTrader: (11)

Expensive doesn't always mean better

Rich

Martin-Hadland

iTrader: (2)

Maybe but unless I'm misinformed yours is still a mile off from being right, is that wrong?

Sonic Boom

iTrader: (11)

That's not the ECU's fault thou, I wouldn't say a mile off you can drive it hard without any issues.

Rich

Mark Shead

What's off on it as wasn't it just a ecu swap before and now a turbo swap.

Mark

jontysafe

That would be my worry. Having to constantly go back for "tweaks".

I totally agree that more expensive is not always better. BUT I think everyone could agree that more experience is always better.

I may stay on L8 but get either Karl or Tony to live map it. Erring towards Tony because trying to live map this thing on the road would be downright dangerous and tony uses a hub dyno.

Martin I think you'll agree mapping westfields on rolling roads is difficult.

Mark Shead

At low power the mapping should be no diff if hub dyno or rr.

Mark

Mark Shead

The ecu should not need constant tweaks.

Mark

jontysafe

No I totally agree, I would be looking for a solution that would be proven and reliable.

Low power on the rolling road no problem. Martin mapped Stu and Porkie's Westfields and found the securing was challenging.

Mark Shead

Low power for me is under 600hp lol.

Mark

jontysafe

I went to see Pete at spec r ref changing to an air to air garrett intercooler and going rear mounted water radiator (in roll cage behind seats) and he said just go to Mark and get a Vipec!

He makes great tea as well.

Cauf61

Is there a tested and working map for the YB available ?
Don't like to start from scratch if possible.

And an wiring adaptor ?

Grts
Patrick

jontysafe

Yes they have done a plug and play adapter. You'll have to speak to them about a base map.

Info@ecumaster.co.uk

bitter_

Im going to run my Sierra on Dyno tomorrow with ECU MASTER

A mate helped me to start it up and started to map it and he seems to like to work in the software.

jontysafe

That looks awesome! What power target? Can you give me some more information?

Just reading your thread. WOW! You Scandis don`t do anything by halves do you.

bitter_

thanks mate, the target was around 380-390hp at the flywheel but manage to pull out 420hp so very happy about that .


Hahah yeah everything or nothing mate upgrade in the thread btw