robrs2

Just after the sizes for rear anti roll bars. as fitted to the XR4x4, 2wd and 4wd Cossie and the Escort cossie.
I think the 4x4 Saff Cossie is 18mm ?
The Granada Cossie is 18mm as i have one. Also i have a 20.5 mm one is this the biggest there is?

Cheers

Rob

tabetha

XR4X4 12mm or 14mm, depending on year
3 door cossie 14mm
2wd sapphy 16mm
4wd sapphy 18mm
escort cossie 22mm
scorpio cossie 21mm
tabetha

robrs2

That will do thanks

Mike1

Anyone on here tried the 4x4 version on a 2wd Sapphire? It looks quite a bit stiffer without resorting to the massively stiffer Escort Cosworth one which I think might tax the mounts too much and upset the balance perhaps.

Going to see what effect the adjustable beam ( next month fitting ) has first but then thinking of what to try after that.....

Mike1

No-one at all running a 4x4 version on the back of a 2wd?

Moonstone Steve.

iTrader: (2)

I have a 4x4 rear roll bar on my 2wd saph

Steve

robrs2

I have a 4x4 one on my 3 door

Mike1

Did you notice much of a difference Steve?
Is it just the bar or do you need different drop links on the ends?

It's supposedly about 1.5 times stiffer I believe?

dazzle740

iTrader: (1)

i also run a 4x4 one on my 2wd yes they are stiffer and no nothing else needed same drop links
oh sorry you will need the apropiate bushes for the beam you fit

Moonstone Steve.

iTrader: (2)

Ask me in a months time m8, its been off the road since i fitted it having a resto, i did fit new links aswell but they were only 2wd links.

Steve

dazzle740

iTrader: (1)

the drop links are all the same between the cossies , but you can get the bushes that go in the drop links seperate from the bars if needed.

Mike1

Ah cheers Steve, I would be interested to hear what you think of it when yours is up and running.
I'm sure I read that the 4x4 one is approx 1.5 times stiffer in roll resistance than the standard 2wd one.
Obviously the Escort Cosworth one is stiffer still but at 3.5 times stiffer than the standard 2wd one and without there being an easy upgrade for the front ARB, my thinking is that there would be too much of a roll disparity between the front and rear axis perhaps. This seems to be borne out by people saying they become a bit too twitchy on the rear in 2wd form when running an Escort Cos rear bar.
I'm also not sure how much extra stress it would put into the mounts with the Escort one compared to the Sapphire 4x4 one.

nicksaph

i think the bushes are bonded in mate so it is a complete link , and i think they are about £8 each mate if i remember right.

dazzle740

iTrader: (1)

I'm only going by the fact that i got four new bushes from my local ford dealer without the link bar.

Mike1

So no-one has tried the 4x4 rear bar on a Sapphire apart from Steve?

Seems to be a few who've tried the much thicker Escort one .....and then complained it has been a bit too skittish perhaps.

nicksaph

sorry mate, bit of a dyslexic moment there mate, thought i read "can you get bushes" instead of "you can get bushes"

dazzle740

iTrader: (1)

As i said above i have got a 4x4 one on the rear of my 2wd noticed a hugh improvement a mate of mine with a 4x4 used the ecose one and said the rear became very nervous

Mike1

Ah cheers Dazzle - somehow missed your post.
Seems to bear out what I was hearing, maybe the Escort Cosworth rear bar is just a bit too much for a non-track car on bumpy, sometimes wet roads.

I'll hunt down a 4x4 version for mine

dojj

iTrader: (3)

i'm another one, even with really soft suspension and standard bushes, the back end just doens't have enough give in it and it gives very easy tail out action under the slightest of provocation when the roads aren't 100% dry

Mike1

Cheers Dojj - that echoes what I read from Tony @ Turbosystems

dojj

iTrader: (3)

rainbird also has the same onion on the matter, but i'm not sure how he goes about sorting it, other than putting a softer arb on it

Mike1

Spring?

He certainly knows his onions.......

Mike1

Hi there anyone who has replaced their rear ARB links recently...

Just got hold of a 4x4 rear bar with the links on. The original coating is all peeling off the ARB so I plan to have it powdercoated and fit all new links and bushes. Quick question though....how did Ford fasten the links to the bar originally? Are they crimped on somehow? ( it's all a bit rusty so I can't see exactly )

groomers

just pull over with a pair of pipe grips bud

dojj

iTrader: (3)

if you are struggling to put them on use a wind in cramp lke they do with woodowrk stuff with a socket over the end to stop it bottoming out

just squirt some fairy liquid on the rubber to help ease it over as well

Mike1

Cheers chaps, it's apparent now I've got one off that they are just a push fit!

dojj

iTrader: (3)

yes mate, but you need to be built like the terminator to get one on using just your hands