Rear Anti Roll bar sizes
Just after the sizes for rear anti roll bars. as fitted to the XR4x4, 2wd and 4wd Cossie and the Escort cossie.
I think the 4x4 Saff Cossie is 18mm ? The Granada Cossie is 18mm as i have one. Also i have a 20.5 mm one is this the biggest there is? Cheers Rob |
XR4X4 12mm or 14mm, depending on year
3 door cossie 14mm 2wd sapphy 16mm 4wd sapphy 18mm escort cossie 22mm scorpio cossie 21mm tabetha |
That will do thanks
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Anyone on here tried the 4x4 version on a 2wd Sapphire? It looks quite a bit stiffer without resorting to the massively stiffer Escort Cosworth one which I think might tax the mounts too much and upset the balance perhaps.
Going to see what effect the adjustable beam ( next month fitting ) has first but then thinking of what to try after that..... |
Originally Posted by Mike1
(Post 4033351)
Anyone on here tried the 4x4 version on a 2wd Sapphire? It looks quite a bit stiffer without resorting to the massively stiffer Escort Cosworth one which I think might tax the mounts too much and upset the balance perhaps.
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I have a 4x4 rear roll bar on my 2wd saph
Steve |
I have a 4x4 one on my 3 door
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
(Post 4038974)
I have a 4x4 rear roll bar on my 2wd saph
Steve Is it just the bar or do you need different drop links on the ends? It's supposedly about 1.5 times stiffer I believe? |
i also run a 4x4 one on my 2wd yes they are stiffer and no nothing else needed same drop links
oh sorry you will need the apropiate bushes for the beam you fit |
Originally Posted by Mike1
(Post 4040049)
Did you notice much of a difference Steve?
Is it just the bar or do you need different drop links on the ends? It's supposedly about 1.5 times stiffer I believe? Steve |
the drop links are all the same between the cossies , but you can get the bushes that go in the drop links seperate from the bars if needed.
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
(Post 4040581)
Ask me in a months time m8, its been off the road since i fitted it having a resto, i did fit new links aswell but they were only 2wd links.
Steve I'm sure I read that the 4x4 one is approx 1.5 times stiffer in roll resistance than the standard 2wd one. Obviously the Escort Cosworth one is stiffer still but at 3.5 times stiffer than the standard 2wd one and without there being an easy upgrade for the front ARB, my thinking is that there would be too much of a roll disparity between the front and rear axis perhaps. This seems to be borne out by people saying they become a bit too twitchy on the rear in 2wd form when running an Escort Cos rear bar. I'm also not sure how much extra stress it would put into the mounts with the Escort one compared to the Sapphire 4x4 one. |
Originally Posted by dazzle740
(Post 4040594)
the drop links are all the same between the cossies , but you can get the bushes that go in the drop links seperate from the bars if needed.
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I'm only going by the fact that i got four new bushes from my local ford dealer without the link bar.
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So no-one has tried the 4x4 rear bar on a Sapphire apart from Steve?
Seems to be a few who've tried the much thicker Escort one .....and then complained it has been a bit too skittish perhaps. |
Originally Posted by dazzle740
(Post 4042126)
I'm only going by the fact that i got four new bushes from my local ford dealer without the link bar.
sorry mate, bit of a dyslexic moment there mate, thought i read "can you get bushes" instead of "you can get bushes" |
As i said above i have got a 4x4 one on the rear of my 2wd noticed a hugh improvement a mate of mine with a 4x4 used the ecose one and said the rear became very nervous
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Originally Posted by dazzle740
(Post 4044562)
As i said above i have got a 4x4 one on the rear of my 2wd noticed a hugh improvement a mate of mine with a 4x4 used the ecose one and said the rear became very nervous
Seems to bear out what I was hearing, maybe the Escort Cosworth rear bar is just a bit too much for a non-track car on bumpy, sometimes wet roads. I'll hunt down a 4x4 version for mine |
Originally Posted by Mike1
(Post 4042714)
So no-one has tried the 4x4 rear bar on a Sapphire apart from Steve?
Seems to be a few who've tried the much thicker Escort one .....and then complained it has been a bit too skittish perhaps. |
Originally Posted by dojj
(Post 4047000)
i'm another one, even with really soft suspension and standard bushes, the back end just doens't have enough give in it and it gives very easy tail out action under the slightest of provocation when the roads aren't 100% dry
Cheers Dojj - that echoes what I read from Tony @ Turbosystems |
rainbird also has the same onion on the matter, but i'm not sure how he goes about sorting it, other than putting a softer arb on it
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Originally Posted by dojj
(Post 4050227)
rainbird also has the same onion on the matter,
He certainly knows his onions....... :grin: |
Originally Posted by nicksaph
(Post 4041422)
i think the bushes are bonded in mate so it is a complete link , and i think they are about £8 each mate if i remember right.
Just got hold of a 4x4 rear bar with the links on. The original coating is all peeling off the ARB so I plan to have it powdercoated and fit all new links and bushes. Quick question though....how did Ford fasten the links to the bar originally? Are they crimped on somehow? ( it's all a bit rusty so I can't see exactly ) |
just pull over with a pair of pipe grips bud
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if you are struggling to put them on use a wind in cramp lke they do with woodowrk stuff with a socket over the end to stop it bottoming out
just squirt some fairy liquid on the rubber to help ease it over as well :) |
Originally Posted by dojj
(Post 4085813)
if you are struggling to put them on use a wind in cramp lke they do with woodowrk stuff with a socket over the end to stop it bottoming out
just squirt some fairy liquid on the rubber to help ease it over as well :) |
yes mate, but you need to be built like the terminator to get one on using just your hands :cry:
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