milne101

Can anyone help?
I was informed on here that the puma 1.7 engine would fit straight in to my fiesta zetec s so i set about fitting it, i was told i needed the puma engine loom and this would plug straight to my existing loom and then i would need to swap Ecu, key & transponder, however this appears to be nonsense as the looms do not plug together!!! Totaly different!!!
Is there anyone there who actualy knows about this conversion and has actualy done one and not just day dreamed about it?
If so can you let me know how i get round this problem, i was thinking that i would maybe need to fit the compleete puma loom?

zippyobrien

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Done mine u need a tape code evidence and bay loom. That's the only straight swap one. U also need mount and accelerator cable. Done a few now. Lee.

zippyobrien

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Done mine u need a tape code ecu and bay loom. That's the only straight swap one. U also need mount and accelerator cable. Done a few now. Lee.

zetec-Sam

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Get onto ZSOC.com and ask there. Alot of people that do this, and a few that will do it for you...

RichieST

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Pretty sure you need a loom out of a puma that had a digital dash, or the other way round, can't remember.

There's a full guide in last months either fast ford or performance ford that shows you exactly how to do it.

milne101

Tape code ecu? is this a different one to the fiesta or puma? Not quite sure what you mean.
Does the bay loom plug into ecu or fuse box?

zetec-Sam

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Did you actually read my post?

I'll even give you an easy to click hyperlink

www.zsoc.com

ask there, sorted.

zippyobrien

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The puma ecu needs to have tape wrote on it. It also needs to be from a puma with a digi dash. The fuse box us part of the bay loom. From the sounds of it uve made a right fuck up. Converted my car in 6 hours. From pylling up as a 1.6 to driving of as a 1.7

warrior within

Ehi guys, a question

I bought a FRP ecu and is TAPE (digi or analog compatible)

I bought also a digital dashboard (the instrument cluster) and wish to use this.

I actually have an analog dashboard with MUFF ecu.

I wish to swap all with the new ecu and the new digital dashboard.

Do I need to buy the digital whole loom with cables/switches/wirings too?

Thanks! I cant find these info and if some1 got and can share is very appreciated preventing me wasting my a$$ in a new engine loom!

Shilly

you need the transponder and key for the tape ecu otherwise your buggered and it wont start without getting the keys programmed again

warrior within

got also the key with transponder supposely inside the key, the ebayer included the keys for a plug & play swap (he wrote this easy upgrade)

My question was if I needed also the entire engine loom, anyway I bought it for safety to prevent surprises during the swap.

Shilly

you need a transponder ring for ignition barrel otherwise its useless all you need is engine side of the loom as it comes with the vct side and the ecu bits
just remove the 2/3 plugs out of the fuse box and plug in the engine loom
then swop the transponder ring on the ignition

warrior within

- btw you telling me that engine loom is enough?? no need all the rest cabin loom things like that?

Can you confirm me all this?
I want to have a clean analog to digit conversion with all the switch and spies working.

Transponder ring is not universal... I read... have to check how could be programmed.
Do I need the transponder ring of the old ecu or of the new ecu to make the swap?

Shilly

shouldnt really as you are only running the same interior features as you would with both digi loom the only thing i would check to confirm this is the speedo fitting if that fits with the loom as is its all good if it doesnt you will have to put a whole digi loom in that includes new indicator stalks aswell as they dont seem to like the switch over

warrior within

Yes I think I need to swap all the cabin loom cause as you saying, and one guy that has parents who works in Ford Motors told me, that plugs are different but switches are the same like the engine too, and btw Im reading here

http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/...25978&get=last

luckly no need to be reprogrammed, I just need the right model transp ring


And I already bought a digi dash too to put on.

I should have all.. didnt know about that key ring.

Can you explain me what is his function during the ecu swap?

Shilly

the transponder ring on the ignition barrel recognises the signal from the chip in the key that matches to the ecu to allow the imobilser to turn off without that your a bit buggered

warrior within

Do Ill need the ring during the removal process of the old ecu or during the installation of the new?

Shilly

installation of the new one you will need to remove original one fro the car and replace it with the new one

warrior within

thanks!!

lacey

I done the conversion , but I had both cars as the puma was not digi dash , so it did male hard work of it , but if you have the right loom then it's as good as plug and play , my cars up for sale if you fancy one done lol

warrior within

which keyring model should I buy for a TAPE ECU of year 2000? Any?