cossie bearing shells
22-09-2003, 07:47 PM
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cossie bearing shells
i'm doing a rebuild and need to get shells. want to make sure i get the best ones and not pinto ones (what is the difference?) what should be on the box- should it say cosworth? and what should they be made of? and where's a good place to get them?
reason i ask is the man who ground my crank (he was very old and talked in thou'!) said all the bearing making companies are owned by one huge company called federal mogul and that they just re-box two types of existing bearing to give the grooved/ plain combination. was he talking shit?
reason i ask is the man who ground my crank (he was very old and talked in thou'!) said all the bearing making companies are owned by one huge company called federal mogul and that they just re-box two types of existing bearing to give the grooved/ plain combination. was he talking shit?
22-09-2003, 08:38 PM
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cheers Guinless. now i'm confused cos i thought 205 blocks were same as sierra injection and my cossie workshop manual says the crankshafts are dimensionally identical. where does the difference lie? (i can't stand not knowing something)
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24-09-2003, 07:10 AM
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Yeah well the ol' geezer is very nearly right.
There's been so much aquisition and consolodation in the OEM and aftermarket supply world that I can't keep it straight myself, and the fact that these huge conglomerates continue to market stuff under old trade names doesn't help.
That said there are essientially 2 processes of tri-metal bearings remaining>
Clevite CL-77 and Vandervell's process.
Ford's OEM bearings are Glyco or is it Glacier so perhaps thats the same, in any case I have sat down and measured every concieveable dimension on both and see ZERO difference except the groove which holds some oil.
I am not aware from any book I have of different part numbers for different years of the 2000 Pinto block including the YB family.
Would be interesting to hear what the alleged difference are since I can see and measure none.
There's been so much aquisition and consolodation in the OEM and aftermarket supply world that I can't keep it straight myself, and the fact that these huge conglomerates continue to market stuff under old trade names doesn't help.
That said there are essientially 2 processes of tri-metal bearings remaining>
Clevite CL-77 and Vandervell's process.
Ford's OEM bearings are Glyco or is it Glacier so perhaps thats the same, in any case I have sat down and measured every concieveable dimension on both and see ZERO difference except the groove which holds some oil.
I am not aware from any book I have of different part numbers for different years of the 2000 Pinto block including the YB family.
Would be interesting to hear what the alleged difference are since I can see and measure none.
26-09-2003, 03:44 AM
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Yeah OK but you can't swap caps from one block to another either, but the question was about the shells themselves, and I am curious what the diff is since i can't measure any. 
26-09-2003, 07:35 AM
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Hmm I thought I said you can't swap the caps around 
About 0.5mm wider IIRC.
Engines up to YBB1613 use the early shells and obviously YBB1614 onwards use the later type.
About 0.5mm wider IIRC.
Engines up to YBB1613 use the early shells and obviously YBB1614 onwards use the later type.
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