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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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hi people another thead again as you might know im having trouble trying to get my ecos started, just had another look at it last sunday as only weekends i can look at it ive unpluged one of the inject's and put a park bulb on it got my bro to switch ign on got nothing, does the phase sensor controll the injectors? thanks for your help hugh ps.. it keeps letting the odd back fire out of it?
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 08:21 PM
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your not having much luck with it hugh


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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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hi people another thead again as you might know im having trouble trying to get my ecos started, just had another look at it last sunday as only weekends i can look at it ive unpluged one of the inject's and put a park bulb on it got my bro to switch ign on got nothing, does the phase sensor controll the injectors? thanks for your help hugh ps.. it keeps letting the odd back fire out of it?
if number one the only one working i would say the chip as mine did that only number one worked chip had failed i think the charger gave it a surge done the damage
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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if number one the only one working i would say the chip as mine did that only number one worked chip had failed i think the charger gave it a surge done the damage
hi mate, no there all the same, i had a volt reader on it it shows up small bit of power just couldn't read it too good im not shit hot at reading them things, i did have the charger on car good few times already i hope i didn't do more damage? hugh
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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your not having much luck with it hugh


cheers james
yes James hows things with you theses days? ah man don't chat to me bout this car i need to get another shed for it as my bro needs the shed its already in ill have to pay rent for the time its been in there lol, must get something sorted with this serria too not having much time lately and heading to oz for month at christmas, what you up to James? cheers hugh
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DON'T put a bulb across the injector feed, ok for the live, but may be a bit too much for the ecu circuitry.
Just check for for a live with a meter(12 volts), and determine which is the earth/switching side, will be different colours on each injector whereas live will be the same on all four.
If you have no noid light, use a old fashioned "swing meter" to watch for earth pulse, as pulse may be too short to capture on digi meter, whereas it will be seen easy by deflection of the pointer on swing meter.
If live is missing, temporarily connect another live into a injector live, this will feed all four, try and start.
I assume you have checked for a good spark ?, if CPS giving no reading it will not spark.
The use of a charger will not kill the ecu, as they are protected quite well, particularly from surges, the main problem with AC chargers though is AC spiking, but most, if not all contain/are anti spike these days.
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Originally Posted by tabetha
DON'T put a bulb across the injector feed, ok for the live, but may be a bit too much for the ecu circuitry.
Just check for for a live with a meter(12 volts), and determine which is the earth/switching side, will be different colours on each injector whereas live will be the same on all four.
If you have no noid light, use a old fashioned "swing meter" to watch for earth pulse, as pulse may be too short to capture on digi meter, whereas it will be seen easy by deflection of the pointer on swing meter.
If live is missing, temporarily connect another live into a injector live, this will feed all four, try and start.
I assume you have checked for a good spark ?, if CPS giving no reading it will not spark.
The use of a charger will not kill the ecu, as they are protected quite well, particularly from surges, the main problem with AC chargers though is AC spiking, but most, if not all contain/are anti spike these days.
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hi mate thanks very much for your help so far, i have a great spark i will go and get a old swing meter so will get back to you later see how i get on, again mate thanks very much, cheers hugh
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No probs huey, NOID lights are easy to make anyway, and only cost a few quid to make, but older style analogue meters can be well useful where digi aren't.
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No probs huey, NOID lights are easy to make anyway, and only cost a few quid to make, but older style analogue meters can be well useful where digi aren't.
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hi mate, sorry had to go away for good part then, anyway the man i was meant to get the swing meter was not around today but had a crack with the normal digi meter the live on the injector is reading 12v but the im not getting much from the earth of the injector something like 3v thats when i turn on the ign but that 3v goes away then? cheers hugh
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heading to oz for a month you lucky sod,have you started on the saff yet hughy ,its time to strip the escos mate and put all good bits in the saff[proper cars lol].
im still workin on my own house as there is no other fookin work out there hughy as you know ,but at least i will be in for christmas which will be great.io have been forbidden from buying anything for the saffs for the time being lol.so they are parked up for the winter ,

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anyone any idea what could cause this not having much earth through the injectors? hugh
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You ONLY get an earth when it fires, there will no doubt be a bit of stray earth in there, but not enough to do anything other than read on a digi meter, as soon you try to draw on it it will drop to zero.
If at no time you are getting a 12V switched earth, on each injector in turn, then the ecu is not firing the injectors.
Just disregard the 3v reading, it's of no significance, unless it were switching at 3v but then that would be only with the engine turning over.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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You ONLY get an earth when it fires, there will no doubt be a bit of stray earth in there, but not enough to do anything other than read on a digi meter, as soon you try to draw on it it will drop to zero.
If at no time you are getting a 12V switched earth, on each injector in turn, then the ecu is not firing the injectors.
Just disregard the 3v reading, it's of no significance, unless it were switching at 3v but then that would be only with the engine turning over.
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hi mate, so the only earth reading from the injectors im gona get is when i turn on of the ign? and if i don't get anything more or less its down to the ecu? cheers hugh
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just been checking things again, tryed my old ecu and i get injector no 2 rattling like mad so done power check on no 2 inject both are showing 12v, could this be my ecu? hugh
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It certainly sounds like a duff ecu, maybe buggered injector drivers, can be fixed though.
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It certainly sounds like a duff ecu, maybe buggered injector drivers, can be fixed though.
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