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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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People people people, i have been trying to buy brake pads for me 2wd cossy, its running standard brakes that have been rebuilt, i brought some red stuff pads the other day and now everyone is saying they are sh"t dont work unless there hot? what is the genral feeling towards these pads? and what are the best one to buy!!!!! thanks for the help dave

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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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Ferodo DS2500 pads - prices on my website .
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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I'm going to shock you now by offering MY opinion rather than the opinions of others who most likely are saying this because someone else says so and have never tried them theselves.
I would have no hesitation in using these for the road, they work perfectly from cold, true they are a bit beter with just 2/3 presses of brake, but still way better than you would ever need even when stone cold, I have used these through the winter as well at -8C, think that's cold enough.
They are a bit dusty, but no noise very predictable with stack loads of feedback through the pedal, do I use them now ?, no as I use yellowstuff as they are even better, but need slightly more warm up but still plenty acceptable when cold, and better fade resistance, only faded my redstuff twice.
I have used 1144 1155, DS2000/2500 and personally wouldn't put them on a wheel barrow, they have no feel, it's like pressing a block of wood, my experience of them was that they really were crap until warmed up , then they went and faded nearly as quick.
I get ferrodo FREE, but instead of using these I BUY yellowstuff, but redstuff is awsome pad as well.
Pads are a very subjective thing though, so as you have them just use them to see what you think of them, bed them in properly, as the pad transfers material onto the disc surface during this process to work even better, the break in coating is ace as well, but sometimes you will need to just pull of the thin metal anti rattle shim on the rear of the pads, still don't rattle though, and I've been using ebc 20+ years.
Other people like other things, that's natural, my next fave would be 1155 from mintex.
Just my opinion other will vary, but some don't like it if your opinion is not with the "in crowd".
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Oh no jtech does it go against your hero's then ?
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 02:52 PM
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I had the redstuffs on my S2 (withe the coz 4-pots of course) and they were pants from cold, on many occasions i overshot islands and junctions cuz they just didnt work!
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Redstuff are OK but there are better pads. I have been racing on them and they stop the car fine. They don't cope well with heat and when I took the last set off my car they were crumbling but very thin. They don't wear well either. I've had yellow stuff at the front for a whole season of racing and I've gone through two sets of red stuff pads at the back.

They're OK but not special. For serious pads - and seriously expensive - go for Ferodo DS25000 or DS3000.

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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tabetha
I'm going to shock you now by offering MY opinion rather than the opinions of others who most likely are saying this because someone else says so and have never tried them theselves.
I would have no hesitation in using these for the road, they work perfectly from cold, true they are a bit beter with just 2/3 presses of brake, but still way better than you would ever need even when stone cold, I have used these through the winter as well at -8C, think that's cold enough.
They are a bit dusty, but no noise very predictable with stack loads of feedback through the pedal, do I use them now ?, no as I use yellowstuff as they are even better, but need slightly more warm up but still plenty acceptable when cold, and better fade resistance, only faded my redstuff twice.
I have used 1144 1155, DS2000/2500 and personally wouldn't put them on a wheel barrow, they have no feel, it's like pressing a block of wood, my experience of them was that they really were crap until warmed up , then they went and faded nearly as quick.
I get ferrodo FREE, but instead of using these I BUY yellowstuff, but redstuff is awsome pad as well.
Pads are a very subjective thing though, so as you have them just use them to see what you think of them, bed them in properly, as the pad transfers material onto the disc surface during this process to work even better, the break in coating is ace as well, but sometimes you will need to just pull of the thin metal anti rattle shim on the rear of the pads, still don't rattle though, and I've been using ebc 20+ years.
Other people like other things, that's natural, my next fave would be 1155 from mintex.
Just my opinion other will vary, but some don't like it if your opinion is not with the "in crowd".
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Tabs,
You ALWAYS assume I just randomly suggest products because either they are more profitible or are the most expensive . You forget that I have had Cosworths since 1994 and so have tried almost every brake pad, brake fluid, oil etc that has been available over the last 15 years . My recommendations are therefore based on having personally tested the majority of products under the majority of conditions (both fast road and track - so far more extreme conditions than most). In some cases, I actually REMOVE products from my website and refuse to sell them, based on personal experience. So you can rest assured, that the majority of consumables, I have personally tested and actually STILL use them in my own car.

The fact that you quote pad types that haven't been available for YEARS, leads me to assume that you haven't even tested Ferodo pads in your Cosworth to even make a recommendation ? However, I can assure you I have tried BlackStuff (acceptible on light cars) , Greenstuff (warps discs), RedStuff (didn't last) and YellowStuff (wore down the discs).

I have also tried the Mintex pads, but they were even more squeaky than the DS3000s.

However, I admit that once I find something that does everything I want, to a level I want, I stick with it until I have tested something better, and then I will move on. Hence why I recommend Silkolene engine oil (instead of Castrol or Mobil) and Castrol SRF brake fluid etc.

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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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Thanks for all the help, i thinks that im going to go with what i have, cane the fuck out of the motor and see what happens after a few months.

Anyone big into drifting there cossy's on here? what they like? havent driven mine for nearly three years so going to take abit of practising again ha ha. thanks again for the advise
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Originally Posted by joey-p
Thanks for all the help, i thinks that im going to go with what i have, cane the fuck out of the motor and see what happens after a few months.

Anyone big into drifting there cossy's on here? what they like? havent driven mine for nearly three years so going to take abit of practising again ha ha. thanks again for the advise
Short on lock, so need this modifying to be competitive, but once done - as good as anything out there .
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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See what you mean, they just need that little bit more lock.
Good idea to weld the diff? My one after a couple of hours of abuse used to let one wheel spin more than the other, but it does have the ford lsd.
What about the gripper diffs?
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 04:05 PM
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A welded diff would be ideal for learning (and cheap), but not sure about the understeer issue if trying to compete in twin drifting competitions (where accuracy of control at every point is paramount).
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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Cheers for the advise again, i suspose i better get it bk on the road before worrying about a diff,



Here she is shit video nokias for ya.

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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tabetha
Oh no jtech does it go against your hero's then ?
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no you cunt, it goes against what i have personally tried and tested.

the ds2500 is an ace fast road pad, i used it for many years. they need good quality discs though, as they are hard.

my post was simply taking the piss out of your "im going to shock you now" comment....

really, as if anyone gives a shit ive a feeling you may have been flatering yourself again

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