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Old 03-01-2004, 02:43 PM
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Escort Cosworth with erratic idle.Just changed the ISCV and rechecked the plugs.Idle is still very erratic and it seems to be over fueling sending it onto 3 cylinders straight away.All plugs very black.Reluctant to alter ecu screw at this stage as it ran ok till a couple of weeks ago.Any ideas?
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Are the plugs oily or just black, rocker cover gasket caused mine to miss
Old 03-01-2004, 03:12 PM
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Plugs are black and sooty then it seems to wet one causing it to go off.Seems to be a lot of clicking and ticking around the injectors that i did'nt notice before,or i've caught bloody cossie-itis.
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i had the clicking and ticking round the injectors...........

it was my chip on the way out, scotty replaced it with one of his own and cured.

have you had a new chip or touched yours ???

only an idea m8
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ECT sensor could be faulty.
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Cheers for that Steve.I doubt it would be that as my chip was altered by Paul Hills not long ago when i went from 8 light greens to 8x803's on safe chip.Something to bear in mind though as the symptoms are similar.Keep the info coming.
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Whats the ect sensor?Is that the blue one hiding by the dipstick?Don't have any manuals.

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ECT Sensor
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Whats the ect sensor?Is that the blue one hiding by the dipstick?Don't have any manuals.
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if its not the ect (engine coolant temp) sensor then try the act sensor (brown one on the plenum)
could also be buggerd map sensor or a split vacuum pipe off the plenum

easy way to test if its the ect or act sensors is to start the engine and let it idle, pull the plug of the sensor, then breifly bridge the 2 contacts on the plug with something metal.
doing this will make the ecu think your engine is warm and cut the fuel back
if doing this makes the car run better then you know uve just found the bad sensor!
WARNING doing this can sometimes blow the 30amp fuse found near the ecu. no big problem but just lettin you know incase it happens and you wonder why your car wont start anymore
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Good info coming here.
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check ur intake plenum for air leaks . my saff ran like a sack of shite and i couldnt find the cause , turned out when i rebuilt it i pulled a bit of gasket that was hangin out , and it caused allsorts of probs . u can find a leak using a length of hosepipe to ur ear and listen for any changes in sound around the plenum .
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Got an ect sensor coming soon so i will keep you all posted.
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Update.Changed ect sensor,started fine,let it warm up and still running ok.Started to increase the revs and it started to run like shite and went onto 3 again.Also have tested act sensor and checked around plenum area.Any more ideas?
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have you had battery disconnected?... personally, I would disconnect over night, and remove ecu, reconnect all up, idle for 3 mins or so, then fast idle at 1200 rpm for couple mins then drive stedily for 5 miles??? Only a suggestion mate, I know it has cured problems for people before!??
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Will give it a go and try it again tomorrow night............if i hav'nt torched it by then.
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Missed this post somehow..

If its fine when cold, then runs really rough when hot, the lambda sensor is on the suspect list.

Also check the phase sensor and crank/phase syncronisation.
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Just read post and found your on pectel super 8 so ignore the lambda suggestion
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Thanks,Stu.The lambda is new as the wires on the old one had snapped.It has run ok since this was fitted.I have a phase sensor in my previous engine.Should i give this a go.Not sure about the synchro bit but nothing has been disturbed there.The crank sensor is also recent but again it has run ok since fitted.
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Whip the dist cap off and just inspect its condition mate... take it from there.
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Just had it running again.Same thing,started and warmed up ok,increased revs to just over 2k and it went straight onto 3 again.Number 4 plug always seems to go first.Swapped them round,still the same.Just had dizzy cap off,gave it a little clean up but nothing really amiss.
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Sorry mate, i meant whip the diz cap off and inspect the condition of the phase sensor and its gap / sync.
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Got the cap off at the moment.Do you just have to turn the engine until the 2 points on the cam line up with the sensor then measure each one.
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yes mate, also inspect wiring as this corrodes, should be a nice bright blue and red.

Sync:
Put crank to No1 TDC

Check center of rotor arm now points to scribe mark in upper distributor mounting face.

gap should also be 0.3mm with crank sensor gapped at 0.8mm.

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