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Makes sense IMHO on the basis that it isnt anywhere near as addictive or destructive as heroin etc.

 

I dont care, just make it more widely available again, can get coke easy, but thats a ripoff in comparison, but it a right pain to get pills these days

 

and the fact theyre just full of tranquilisers and other downers shite and bare no relation to the original e of years gone by. at Ł1 a pill its not going to be the best

 

Basically means that most of the dumb population will think it's been made legal and will encourage its useage.

 

Sadly, you are of course correct, still we dont need dumb people anyway so fuck em

 

most of the pills on the streets are piperazines as it was legal, not any more as it's 10 times more dangerous the MDMA.

Give it 6 months and the good ones will flood back

MDMA in its pure form is the most safe drug you can get, its safer than fooking asprin FFS

 

and Pon is correct

 

Its not safer in terms of psychological effects than asprin, its only safer in terms of physical effects.

The physical effects of these "tame" drugs like MDMA and Cannabis etc arent the big deal, its the way they increase the risk of mental illness that is a bigger problem IMHO

 

unfortunatly you're 100% right!

 

Never touch the shit anyway.

Only drugs i have are for headaches

 

were I do agree with you chip is with cannabis as I feel it should be upgraded.

But so far there is no proven log term effect, but there is always a danger from psycho active drugs

My classification would be

A COKE, SMACK
B Cannabis
C MDMA

 

people that want to take drugs will regardless of the legal classification of them. would anyone take an e but not touch a line of coke just because thats a class A and that bit naughtier than a class B?

 

Ecstacy will die out i reckon, Alot of the people i know that did pills have now turned to MDMA as with this you lose alot of the bad side effects of pills but keep the high.

 

IMHO It should be:
A COKE, SMACK
B Cannabis, MDMA
C Tobacco, Alcohol

 

Even though fags and booze kill more than the rest.

And booze deffo causes more crime/violence than the rest.

 

Wont make any difference.
Folk who want them will get them, folk who don't, won't.

Exactly the same as it is now. Drugs are far from hard to come by, regardless of the govts efforts.

 

all drugs should be class A and you should get jail time for using and distributing them - drugs wreck peoples lives and kill people.

Leah Betts anyone?

 

anyone who takes drugs knows the risks and chooses to participate. there will be no sympathy from me for anyoe that od's

 

The reason they kill more people than the rest, is that they are subject to far more widespread availability and use.

Percentage wise a member of the public is more likely to die from falling off a pavement than skydiving, and percentage wise a member of the public is more likely to die from fags than heroin, that doesnt make skydiving and heroin safer though, it just because they are less common than fags and walking on the pavement.

 

couldnt agree more

 

More people have a strong allergic reaction to peanuts than esctasy i reckon

 

No.
People taking... "drugs wreck peoples lives and kill people."

Its their choice.
I have no sympathy whatsoever. They made the choice.
Should we ban hammers in-case folk are stupid enough to hit themselves with them?

 

the simple fact is and i dont care "how well you know your drugs" you have absolutely no idea whats in the shit you put up your nose, wipe on your gums, swallow or inject into your veins - the dealer doesnt care what he sells you either, all he wants is his Ł10.

I know people who have had their lives wrecked by drugs, some killed themselves, others batterd to death over a poxy Ł10 none payment....the dealers walk round with ther heads held high showing off their ill gotten gains - scumbag bastards they are

 

if you use them its all about moderation and takin it steady. dont let them take over your life. people just need hobbies lmao!

mdma cant be that good for you doesnt it release spinal fluid into your brain and huge amounts of serotonin overwhelming your receptors? or is that a myth?

if it was leagalised it could be regulated a true controlled substance, would cut the dealers out the equation

 

hmmm some very varied opinions on this one.i choose not to comment

 

interesting topic mind!

 

if it was legalised it would lead to chaos, people would abuse the system it would get out of hand, every man and his dog would become an addict - legalising drugs would cause more deaths/violence/robberies than it does now

 

leah betts, did not die of MDMA

She died from drinking to much water

 

Have also heard that theory.

As a result of bad eduction about drugs, as she was led to beleive that was the thing to do.

 

What about Leah Betts?

She drunk a metric fuck-tonne of water (7-8 litres in an hour and a half or something?), and IIRC the only way ecstacy was linked to her death was that the MDMA could have caused SIADH which makes it harder to urinate and get rid of it all, although it was inconclusive if memory serves...

 

No
she dies from taking a bad E that cuased her brain to dehydrate excessively. she was past the point of no return when she was found slumped on her bathroom floor at her 18'th birthday party.

what a shit way to go - this is why i hate drugs and the people that use/sell them

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I STAND CORRECTED:-
WIKIPEDIA
She is notable for the extensive media coverage and moral panic that followed her death several days after her 18th birthday, on November 11, during which she took an ecstasy tablet, then collapsed four hours later into a coma, from which she did not recover. Subsequently, it was discovered that water intoxication, rather than ecstasy, was the direct cause of her death

 

this is true its what most deaths on mdma are caused by. it shuts down your kidneys an stops you needing the toilet so the only way you can displace water is through sweating.
it puts your salt level in your body out of balance and stop your brain regualtin water control and your brain soaks the excess water up, swells in your head an you die.

 

I used to work with a guy who got himself into bad debt(more than most cossies cost to run!) with the wrong people over drugs. He started out with the old cannabis, progressed onto Ecstacy and then it was onto the naughty stuff. The lad hung himself at 23 years of age and before he started on the drugs, he was one of the most decent guys you could meet. The drugs wrecked his life, his girlfriends life, his families life and some of his close friends.

 

it is a possibility, but if the system could work it could be used to help treat addicts by adjusting what the are takin and wheining them off the addictive one onto a non addictive one.

 

Everyone pro drugs says Leah Betts died from drinking water, and the fact she was on MDMA was a mere co-incidence, everyone anti drugs say that the E killed her as her body reacted badly to it.

Personally im of the objective opinion it was probably a combination of the two.

 

i dunno but years ago yellow calays and mitsi turbos used to make ya feel like a hollow plastic doll the next day. and they definiteley fucked with your mind. wouldnt know about modern pills though. the old ones should be class a no question imo.

 

In amsterdam its legal to have sex at 12 or 13 I believe and yet they have LOWER teenage pregnancy rates than over here.

Sadly the mass public in britain seem to be very fucking stupid, and in holland they arent, so as a result what works for them doesnt always imply it will work for us.

 

YOU KNOW FOOK ALL

 

well whatever