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Old 25-12-2014, 09:13 PM
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I agree with what people have said
But if the car is done to a top standard
So it looks the part then I am sure no one will lose any sleep
Over it
Lol a nice bdt would top it off
Old 26-12-2014, 09:24 AM
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How can you critisise him for wanting a good base car to work with??
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After spending last 4 days welding a "Cheap Capri" back together up to pass an NCT i cant blame ya for starting with a mint car
Plus a high milage 2.8 would shit itself under boost
Old 26-12-2014, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr S1
Good project, but not sure I'd have wanted to have pulled a mint 55k car to bits to do that to it....each to their own !
Yep your right there buddy!!! But it is a cool car though!
Old 26-12-2014, 06:07 PM
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That is looking great fella keep up the good work !
Old 26-12-2014, 06:34 PM
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Lol at the comments, so you guys would happily start with a shitter and spend weeks grinding cutting and welding just to get to a point where you can actually start building your project?

Bollocks to that, get the best starting point you can and go from there.

this is going to be a hard car to make look "right" why would you want to make it harder by buying a rough starting point, scooby slayer is doing it the right way anD starting with a good base
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I can totally understand the comments, once you see what Ł2k buys you in 2.8i capri specials you will realise why I bought what I bought, they are junk compared to what I bought, and I want a totally standard interior feel to the car in mint condition where would I find that for a start ?


I then also need a mint driveline which I wouldn't get, I don't have time to be rebuilding everything, this project is going to be all about the kit and fitting it and fitting the supercharger.
im sure what ive bought will actually work out cheaper in the end.


if ade hadn't donated the supercharger kit I may not of bought it, it helped me to justify the extra initial expense




the pics in the thread aren't of my car those are the builder of the kit just showing fitment, my capri is sat in my shed still in mint condition its had nothing except 2" front lowering springs. first job is to remove the front wings as they are worth good money being genuine 1987 ford wings with very little rust.


so the 4 arches and boot spoiler are now in my possession
I have the full kit now here




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it looks really well made, feels sturdy enough, im considering foam filling the panels aswell to give them abit more strength.




I gotta figure out how im gonna fit it all now, im a total novice to this sort of stuff tbh lol


i would like to screw the kit on so its removeable like the originals were, and I think im going to have to lower the bottom of the kit a little to make it look right, I cant lowering it anymore than 2" front and rear as it still needs to be road useable and able to negociate speed bumps.




any thoughts an ideas are welcome
Old 26-12-2014, 09:03 PM
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Get some air bags on it matey
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Old 26-12-2014, 10:45 PM
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I gotta do jagermeister Glenn as the decals are easier and available. Next thing I want to check is measure up exactly how much wider the wings are than stock and see if a 245/35/17 on a 10j will be wide enough, the wheels must look right or its a waste of time
Old 26-12-2014, 11:15 PM
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looking forward to seeing this built ,should be awesome scoobyslayer
Old 26-12-2014, 11:42 PM
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Can't wait to see the kit going on , always had a soft spot for these and tbh I hate capris . Kit looks great
Old 27-12-2014, 07:54 AM
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They look mint with the kit on.
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Another thing I'm gonna potentially try is lowering the front wings and valance, once original front wings are removed the new wings will be to low when the lip is sat on the inner wing, also then the bonnet will sit higher than the wings as per the original car, even just 1" drop will make all the difference, I think I need about 4" clearance at the front to be useable, I will measure my r35 in abit as that is low but useable
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Pirelli now do a 305/35/15, and they fit on a 11.5j rim so would go straight on the front and get me so the tyre is just 1" in from the outside edge, and inner tyre edge will still be in stock position
and the tyre overall diameter is 23.3" so very small keeping the nose down.


rears could then have 315/35/17s on 12j rims and sit 1/2" in I think again with inner edge in stock position, tyre prices are shockingly expensive but it would mean I wouldn't have to alter the suspension they will be direct fit with all inner edges in stock position just outer edges extended out 4.5" front, 5" rear
this tyre is 25.7" overall diameter making the rear sit just over 1" higher than the front which is part of the look needed to make it look right I think.

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Old 27-12-2014, 05:02 PM
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The Wurth decals do it for me.
Old 28-12-2014, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
Another thing I'm gonna potentially try is lowering the front wings and valance, once original front wings are removed the new wings will be to low when the lip is sat on the inner wing, also then the bonnet will sit higher than the wings as per the original car, even just 1" drop will make all the difference, I think I need about 4" clearance at the front to be useable, I will measure my r35 in abit as that is low but useable
Will just need to take into account how far forward the front spoiler sits forward as will make a big difference at shite junctions where the camber of road gets in the way :/
Old 29-12-2014, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
Get some air bags on it matey
That's what I was going to suggest. It's gonna be a struggle pulling off a good look with a speed bump friendly car, it'll only ever look like that one posted a few pages back. With air you could drop the bugger down for posing, would look awesome.
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Originally Posted by jameswrx
That's what I was going to suggest. It's gonna be a struggle pulling off a good look with a speed bump friendly car, it'll only ever look like that one posted a few pages back. With air you could drop the bugger down for posing, would look awesome.
I'm sure mine will be lower than his, from what I've read about that build it's still very high afaik
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with whatever suspension I use the front crossbeam is now only 3.5" off the floor, my new front tyres will be 0.3" taller so will have 3.8" clearance, so It wont go lower without modification to the beam, bottom arms etc, and reality I will only gain 0.5".


im not going down the route of lifting the crossbeam into the car and then having to raise the tunnel etc where will it all end




ive just been out and done a little mock up on my own, front of the car is really as low as it can go I think, rear will be coming down another 2".




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so I propped the wing next to it with bonnet line set to level




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the tape measure end is where the bottom of the front bumper will sit, its 6" off the ground, so with a 1" splitter added im looking at 5" clearance which I guess I will need anyways due to front overhang as has been mentioned earlier.




and sideskirts will have 6" clearance roughly but again I could maybe add a 1" to the panels and lower the wheel arches down so it closes the gap above the tyres.




as soon as I have time and some help I shall mock one front wing and front bumper up in front of the car so I can see exact height and know exactly where im at. if its acceptable I shall be removeing the original ford wings completely and selling them they must be valuable being genuine ford even with a little surface rust.

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Needs to scrape to pull it off
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Originally Posted by CrOwSoN15
Needs to scrape to pull it off


and never drive it anywhere except onto a trailor to be taken somewhere for people to look at it no thanks lol




id like to know what ground clearance the zak rep earlier in the thread is, im sure its a lot more than 6" by the look of it.




I have been worrying a little to much over my crossmember I think as when I hit a speed bump the crossmember will lift with the tyres so I may run at 3" clearance at the crossbeam which should see me at I think 5" clearance with the kit, im gonna need 5" else there will be fuck all left of it after one speed bump lmao




also I could run 15" front and rear rims at 11.5j with 305/35/15 tyres on that will keep it low aswell all round as long as it would look ok still.
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It's definitely a fine line between practicality and still looking 4x4, I'm sure it's been covered but what size wheels did the originals run?
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16s at the front 19s at the rear
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Originally Posted by CrOwSoN15
It's definitely a fine line between practicality and still looking 4x4, I'm sure it's been covered but what size wheels did the originals run?
My gtr has 4" and that looks really mean and low but the arch is rammed full of wheel/tyre and I suspect I will need to mod the kit so the capri does the same.


Zakspeed were 16 fronts 19 rears, the problem is overall diameter capri 305/35/15 are "23.4 total, my intended 315/35/17 rears are are 25.7" so they will lift the rear of the car 1.1" higher than the front, I gotta take a look how much I can lower the rear before hitting bump stops I guess, needs capri back on ramp asap

The car needs to be raised ever so slightly at the rear but not be range rover stance lol

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Apologises if I've missed it in earlier posts; what wheels do you have for this?
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The other one ive seen at a couple of meets is on air ride. Have you considered this?
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Originally Posted by deanflowers
The other one ive seen at a couple of meets is on air ride. Have you considered this?


not really, it needs to be useable on roads without alteration ideally, im sure it will be getting front coilovers 2 1/4" and adjustable bottom arms though so I can get some camber back once shes slammed.


im sure it will look good still with 5" ground clearance on the edge of the kit and arches modded so there full of tyre/wheel.


we are flat out again repairing dozers so ive no time to be mocking the capri up yet

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The capri looks bloody low at the moment.
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
The capri looks bloody low at the moment.
It is and it will go a little lower yet I think, front of original sideskirts is now 6" of the ground
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Well had a better measure up today and as it sits front splitter is currently about 8" off the ground with the new wheel size on! I think the car will go abit lower with some coilovers up front and the rear appears to have alot more lowering room yet.

The only options are I can lower the headlights, grill and slam panel and lower the whole front end "1 - 2" and then will have to alter the bodykit from there onwards
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I do really like these capris and it really would look so much better really low like they raced. Air suspension is a really good option on a car like this especially if you had a low road ride setting a normal road high setting and the up and down control
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
I do really like these capris and it really would look so much better really low like they raced. Air suspension is a really good option on a car like this especially if you had a low road ride setting a normal road high setting and the up and down control


it is an option but not really something I want to do I want it to just work and be useable at a set height, if I forget ive dropped it and hit a speed bump


ive just been out and had a play, the front spoiler actually will slip on above the bumper at the height it will sit at


so as it sits with front bumper on it will currently sit 7.5" off the ground looks like this


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but if I can get it 1" lower on coilovers and adjustable bottom arms, then add a 1" thick splitter look piece under the bumper can get to 5.5" clearance like this, that's 2" lower with the front bumper for pic.


another option is I might be able to drop the headlights and grill which will drop the front end then aswell


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I think it will look ok if I can get in the 5" area, and the front bumper and wings will certainly hook together nice and screw together which is good as I wont be glueing it on under any circumstances.


if im happy and gonna go for it with this shell then next it needs bumpers and frontwings removeing, then a full mock up of the kit layed in place, remember im not bonding it on so its got to fit fairly well so it can be screwed into place.


im wondering what ive let myself in for lol

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We be a top car once done no doubt! Can't wait to see you get really stuck into it! And fook the haters much better starting off with a good clean car
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Fooking mental!!!
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Any progress?


PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE buy this and do it justice.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=161623280799
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Wow you dont realise how wide the kit is till you have put the front splitter on.
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Originally Posted by stu21t
Any progress?


PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE buy this and do it justice.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...d=161623280799



no progress at all, I have been working 7 days a week since mid February its my first day off today in 6 or 7 weeks


so busy infact the mondeo will soon be for sale, it needs a bit of work and I have zero time to do it so I just bought the missus a newer car instead with low miles, mondeo will be for sale once the work is done.


work comes first and I am very busy, got 10 mechines out on hire, 3 more looming and a engine rebuild to start tmrw.


I am in 2 minds about cutting this capri up, it is very clean and in all honesty a good investment I think to mothball, im undecided yet but I may keep this capri and buy another one for the project.

Originally Posted by Glenn_
Wow you dont realise how wide the kit is till you have put the front splitter on.

it is huge mate, the boot spoiler is awesome proper huge
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Buying another sounds like a better plan that 2.8 looks stunning and original and their going up and up in value all the time. U could pick up a cheap solid laser to use as a base even, u won't have the spec but good starting point. There's s guy on Facebook who's building a zakspeed rep and he's used a full space frame with the Capri body over the top, very similar to the original zakspeed. It looks a lot of work but it does look good.
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looking at the kit no way with the capri stock front suspension will you be able to get the car low enough. Have seen a wurth copy car and lets be honest looks stupid on the front, all the dimensions are wrong.


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