Lee Ivatt

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Ok i may as well show you the rest, come on you didnt think that is all ive done today

Time for the sorry looking engine





When i bought the car i was told it had a new head gasket and also timing belt and tensioner, but had been sitting for a few years and also was advised that the last bloke who did the head gasket most probably reused the head bolts! So its only right that i pull it apart.



I marked the pulley, not that i needed to as i will be resetting it all from scratch, but its just habit.


Tensioner off- May be new but its deffinatly been sitting around geting rusty


Off with the head -remember if you doing this to undo them in the reverse torque up order to avoid distortion


First inspection of the head is ok, all quite clean, someone WHO IS NOT MECHANICALLY MINDED has definatly been in here with a wire brush. valves do not look like they were lapped and are a little pitted but in fair condition



Same cant be said for the block, its sound the rings are all tight and the bores are all nice and smooth, but thank god i opend it up, the chap who had this apart really did not have a clue!



These are pistons 3 and 4 just look at the state of them covered in shit and if u look there are wire strands from the mechanical wire brush just left in here, can you imagine the potential damage if id have fired this up



the "new" head gasket, which sadly will be goining my collection on the wall


Head strip- Manifold off



The bloody monkey has been here as well, i assumed it was a missing stud but after removal of the pendulum chamber its clear the stud has been snapped off inside the block. What a pillock, some people shoud not be allowed to own a spanner.


rockers off mechanical lifters out


springs, collets, out. Id hedge a bet that the vlave stems are still the originals


bare head


nice collection, of bits to put back and or bin.


As far as im aware many say the Rsi camshaft is probably one of the best O.E cams for the CVH!?

The cam is in very good condition, infact the whole engine is, apart from state it was left in buy the muppet who "rebuilt it" . Thank god it was never fired up in this state.

Head Is off first thing in the morning to my trust worthey engineer. for a pressure test. Ill ask his opinion on a skim, but as far as i can tell it doesnt warrent one!
I will get him to replace the broken stud and also im very tempted to have him grind in some hardened valves so i can run safley on unleaded.
I know a lot of you RSi boys say it will be fine, but whilst the head is off i think i may as well ask. Depends how much my engineer wants for it i guess.

Ive got a stinking cold come out today so will most likley lock my self in the work shop tommrow also, as theres no way i can work with man flu!

XR2

Can't be a standard cam, won't run with hydraulic tappets!

Lee Ivatt

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They're not hydraulic, they are solid

XR2

the followers on your picture are hydraulic ones!

T3ORA

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sorry but they am

the head looks like a rs1600i

Lee Reynolds

Yes mate this is what ive been trying to explain. In the real world, the RSi does not exist LMAO so you get gasket/gasket sets that are for the XR3i as they are basically the same BUT the exhaust manifold gasket that comes in the kit is that teardrop as you call it shape, whereas the rsi is round, so you order a RST manifold gasket to go with it

It's Czech Mate

Looks like solids to me.

Remember if you skim and change compression too much you cant change the ignition timing.

Theres a guy on RSOC who has the ONLY computer capable of writing to the original ecu, bought direct from AFT ( Who made the ignition system ) and he can supply on a reconditioned for old basis for different specced engines. May be of use to you, if you need to know his username etc i'll see if I can dig it our for you

Lee Reynolds

Lee they are 100% hydraulic lifters that are in your picture mate. The rockers are RSi as they only have the one hole in them but those lifters definatley are not adjustable solid rs1600i ones!

Lee Reynolds

Are you looking at a different picture? As the do not have the nut on top to adjust them!

XR2

... and also no other solid ones

Lee Reynolds

tbh im unsure of other ones so i cant comment, but i do know they are not RSi ones!

XR2

I've got a set of aftermarket solid ones for the CVH lying around. They come with three nuts.

Lee Ivatt

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right just been out to take some pics.

The head is is Rsi for sure

part no 81SM6090BRA


So what the hell is going on with the tappets then.





On the up side this could be an excuse to buy a nice new cam kit

So does anyone have any pics of what i should have!?

Lee Reynolds

Funny you should ask as Ive just been out and taken one for you Lee



Simple really, easy way of quietening down the tappet noise, fit hydraulics! Instead of adjusting the std ones!

XR2

A friend of mine tried hydaulic ones on a RSi cam... didn't work.

And this tappet looks like it was used with a non-RSi rocker...

Lee Ivatt

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Haha, top man.

So whats the deal here then, what is the reason the r6i has the adjustable ones?

Im new to the 16i so sorry for all the questions.

Lee Reynolds

Soid lifters allow for more revs. Them being adjustable means you can keep them working at the best of their ability... They also have uprated cams and tougher valve springs. Wether or not they are tougher than the RST i dont know as at the time they werent about so the RST may have got even tougher springs!

XR2

RS1600i was developed for racing purposes. That's why it had so many technical improvements to the standard Escorts. Reworked head, modified gear ratios, different manifold and exhaust, Koni shocks, adjustable arb on the front and the K-Jetronic injection. The engine should be used for racing so it had to rev higher than a standard one, so Ford used a camshaft with different profiles and solid tappets. Hydraulic ones begin to loose their pressure on higher revs, so you loose power, too.

Lee Reynolds

BTW do you not have the RS1600i bible mate? The workshop supplementary manual? Its a must really as the car has differences that are unique! Generally crop up on ebay now n then!

Lee Ivatt

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No not yet, only had the car 2 weeks

Watching one at the mo, blokes only up the road from me also!


Right so is there anyway of checking my cam is Rsi then, as i want it to be right before i bolt it all back together!

Would it be easier to simply purchase an after marker kent/piper cam kit?

Lee Reynolds

depends what you want i suppose mate. Id try to get rsi myself as the unique car has its unique parts but thats me.

If you miss out on the manual i 'think' i may have a spare photocopied one you can have id have to look see!
Im not sure if theres a number on the cam or not, maybe best asking on the RSI on your or RSOC boards mate

Lee Ivatt

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What do you want for them?

Just won both the supp manual and the workshop manual. hes 10 mins down the road so hope to pick them up tommrow!

XR2

not thought about that yet... Might have some sets of genuine RSi tappets lying around, too. But they all need new bottom parts...

Lee Reynolds

Nice one mate, tells you all ya need to know!

Lee Ivatt

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Thought my tappets were Rsi ones, just my lifters that are wrong?

Christ this is a pain in the arse, cant wait to pick up my "bible" tommrow to sort this mess out

Lee Reynolds

Tappets/lifters are the same thing. Your rockers are correct, single hole. As for cam and springs cant tell just from a picture.

Lee Ivatt

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I really should pay more attention to what things are called.

Well just spoke to the guy it came from and hes 99% the cam is rsi and like you say the hydros were simply put in as a corner cut/bodge to reduce noise instead of adjusting the mech ones.

Lee Reynolds

did he not keep the solids?

XR2

When my infos are correct, RSi cam can only be used with solid tappets. Hydraulic ones can't pump up because of the cam profile...

Lee Ivatt

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Well looking at my cam there is

a number 062215 cast into it

and also

a 9 inbetween lifters 2+3

a E inbetween lifters 1+2

And a 3 and a 6 near the lifter 1 and cam pulley

Im assuming the 062215 is a part number?

I dont know what im doing, This engine is turning out to be a night mare.

My head reads

H 81 SM 6090 BRA which ive read is a later rsi head number. but like you say the 86 stamp is worrying

Also on the head is 18.01.86 and 097932


The block reads

81 SM 6015 DEA

Also on it are CR3 8874 and 2L3


the camshaft reads

062215

also a

9 cast between lifter lobes 2+3

E cast between lobes 1+2

3 and a 6 cast around the lobe 1 and cam pulley

Im really getting confused as to what i have here.

There seems to ne very little information out there on part numbers. I really need to know asap as im spending a fair anoumt of money on engine parts so need to clarify what i have.

I know the 1600i block is the same as a xr3 so no reall worries there is its not rsi

the head is defo rsi or rst as the exhaust ports are round not square

the cam who knows

the lifters are obviously wrong

but the rockers are correct rsi with the 1 hole in them

HELP

The guy i bought is from had nothing to do with the car, he bouhgt it as a resto project and sold it to me in the same condition!

I may well just buy a new set and be done with it.

Lee Ivatt

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HOLD FIRE SCHOOL BOY ERROR
Just got my head back from my engineer mate.

All this confusion over dates really got to me and now having the head back ive cleaned it with a little thinners and Would you bloody believe it, who ever pointed me out that the date was wrong needs a spank

Ok my pics didnt help, but its clear now its just been a massive cock up from a crap picture

MY HEAD IS RSI
ANd heres the date all cleaned up





So im well chuffed i basically have a stage 2 tune RSi head

My engineer got some new exhaust valves and lapped them in.


He then cut multi angles in the seats, to improve flow and also help get the heat away quicker!




He has also opened up and flowed the inlets slightly and also polished the exhaust ports




The head was given a light skim, needed due to the muppet who last put it on and cleaned it up with a mechanical wire disk!!!
And it has been pressure tested over night! 8)

I still have man flu, feel like shit, so work was a no no again.
I decided a trip down the A12 was nessisary to burtons. Ended up spending Ł600, but im not safe in the knowledge that i have an almost bullet proof motor! All Rsi kit and "stage 2" tuned

Rst Felpro head gasket
Rst engine gasket kit
Steam seals
Thermostat
Tensioner
Sparks
Kent CHV26 racing/rally cam
Kent mechanical lifters
Water pump
Fuel filter
Piper airfilter
Bosch Fuel pump
New fuel banjo washers
Non stretch head bolts
Cam oil seal





High flow filter in


Fuel filter


And a sexy new fuel pump for piece of mind


Last night in all the panic i forgot to upload what i got up to yesterday with my man flu, so..............

Ran my magnet roung the pistons and in the bores, and just look what came out


Tape up holes and clean up block and pistons










Tidy up of block and aux parts


Ignore the water pump this is the old one, which as said above i have a new one!




My faithful landrover saves my back again






Block in and bolted to gear box. Have a massive problem with the engine mount, turns out the Rsi has its own unique engine mount, so excuse the next two pics as the block is sitting low on the left. Ive just won a brand new genuine Rs1600i engine mount on flea bay to go in



SO to sum up my head is RS1600i 8)
I have new cam and mechanical lifters
Head is now "stage 2"

The only identification still unknown is the block, i have some one in the RSOc looking into this, but as we all know buy now the rsi block is the standard 1.6 injection block anyway

RESULT

SteveH

Nice lee!! I wondered where that engine I rebuilt got to!! (JOKE btw)

What did you use to clean the pistons and bores up? Looks like they came out well

Fancy doing a Pulsar? You dont hang about

Lee Reynolds

Nice one Lee glad you all happy with it now! Who said the head wasnt RSI?

Have you had the sump off? With the crap you have pulled out of those bores i would be wanting to empty the sump of any debris AND make sure the oil pick up pipe isnt blocked mate!

No way have you got flu

Lee Ivatt

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I have a special cleaning fluid which is megga expensive and also i mix it with 20% petrol, YOu wouldnt want to make a spark when you using it anyway! :twisted:



No i really have i feel like im about to die

Yeh sump is coming off, Im treating that as part of the under side of the car, when i do the suspension and brakes etc.

Right did a bit more tonight

My nice new inlet stud, old one machined out and replaced


Rockers cleaned up


Uprated valve stems


Springs


Cleaned up the inlet valves



Nice clean head using my "magical" cleaner



Lapping in the inlets with a fine paste



My lovley new multi 3 angle exhaust valves


Nice bit of lubrication and valvestems


New shiny CVH26 KENT



Half way











Now these were with the valve stems?
I have no idea what they are for, or if i need to use them.

Logic would say 4 on the inlet and the other 4 on exhaust, but surley not as they would get in the way?

ANY IDEAS?

XR2

I hope you used tape on the valves before putting the seals in. Otherwise you can throw them away and buy new ones.

These are the aftermarket solid tappets i was talking about. Pain in the arse to set up the valve clearance! Except you have three hands

The pieces on the last picture belong to the injection valves

Lee Reynolds

yup they are the injector seals Lee...The orignal ones on your injectors will be white plastic with black rubbers, have a look see

Good compromise/mod with the CAM

Henrikmk3

Nice work !

Munch

you dont hang about do ya mate!


Fair play!

Lee Ivatt

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Do'h, i recgonise them now, remember changing them on my S1

Well i looked at the CVH27 and 28, but figured im not going to be holding the engine at high revs for most of its time. I feel the 26 which is very similar to the O.E RSi cam offers the best all round performance.

Tape, i dont have a clue what your on about?

If you mean to identifiy them them with numbers then there was no need as the 4 exhaust valves that were lapped in buy my engineer, I took out and lined up in order next to the head. And the inlets were laid out in numbered grids on the cardboard when i stripped the head.

Or am i totally missing your point?

3drpete

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ive had a couple of rsi's, lovely motors.

looks like your doing a good job mate, nice base to start with witch makes a change when ya buy some1 else's abandond project!!!!

keep up the good work

pete