Workshop build. Phase two !
25-04-2010, 12:05 AM
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wooow thats mint would love some where like that to keep mi cars lol one day maybe 
looking good tho fair play
looking good tho fair play
25-04-2010, 09:43 AM
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25-04-2010, 08:58 PM
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haha, i work on sundays, only because its my own house tho!!
any pictures of the padstones you installed?
Are you going to build a ramp up to the door height? the grass level looks a lot lower than your finished floor level of the garage!
looks very good so far though!
any pictures of the padstones you installed?
Are you going to build a ramp up to the door height? the grass level looks a lot lower than your finished floor level of the garage!
looks very good so far though!
25-04-2010, 09:08 PM
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haha, i work on sundays, only because its my own house tho!!
any pictures of the padstones you installed?
Are you going to build a ramp up to the door height? the grass level looks a lot lower than your finished floor level of the garage!
looks very good so far though!
any pictures of the padstones you installed?
Are you going to build a ramp up to the door height? the grass level looks a lot lower than your finished floor level of the garage!
looks very good so far though!
25-04-2010, 09:18 PM
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its a 10mm thick piece of angle iron on the inside 
because why the fook would you need to put a compressed concrete block in when all it sits on is a shit load of other concrete blocks in the first place?
just goes to show that building regs are a load of bollocks.
because why the fook would you need to put a compressed concrete block in when all it sits on is a shit load of other concrete blocks in the first place?
just goes to show that building regs are a load of bollocks.
25-04-2010, 09:32 PM
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25-04-2010, 10:24 PM
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you dont mess about mark.
is the inside height give you room for a car lift. or mabie you wont want one of them, will you dig a pit instead mate.
the escort is going to have a nice home very soon..
thanks steven..
is the inside height give you room for a car lift. or mabie you wont want one of them, will you dig a pit instead mate.
the escort is going to have a nice home very soon..
thanks steven..
25-04-2010, 10:30 PM
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Youre very funny Mark; you ask for advice and then shun the people who go out of their way to help you.
and now you come back with fighting talk
25-04-2010, 10:45 PM
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good luck with your build
25-04-2010, 10:47 PM
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a lift mark is very handy mate, i built a garage 10 years ago 33ft x 30ft .
its door opening height is 13ft , just last year i built a bit on just for my new lift i built an other 20ft onto the end of the maine garage with the door comeing in from the side , it means the lift is sitting in the middle of the garage and in the middle of the roof beams so i get my full hight in the middle with no problems of hitting anything. even with my escort on the lift at full height with the bonnet and the tail gate open its got lots of room.
the maine garage is built with 10inch x 6 inch wide blocks on there flat, but the new part of the garage is built with smaller blocks with a cavitay wall .
many thanks steven..
25-04-2010, 10:53 PM
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a lift mark is very handy mate, i built a garage 10 years ago 33ft x 30ft .
its door opening height is 13ft , just last year i built a bit on just for my new lift i built an other 20ft onto the end of the maine garage with the door comeing in from the side , it means the lift is sitting in the middle of the garage and in the middle of the roof beams so i get my full hight in the middle with no problems of hitting anything. even with my escort on the lift at full height with the bonnet and the tail gate open its got lots of room.
the maine garage is built with 10inch x 6 inch wide blocks on there flat, but the new part of the garage is built with smaller blocks with a cavitay wall .
many thanks steven..
its door opening height is 13ft , just last year i built a bit on just for my new lift i built an other 20ft onto the end of the maine garage with the door comeing in from the side , it means the lift is sitting in the middle of the garage and in the middle of the roof beams so i get my full hight in the middle with no problems of hitting anything. even with my escort on the lift at full height with the bonnet and the tail gate open its got lots of room.
the maine garage is built with 10inch x 6 inch wide blocks on there flat, but the new part of the garage is built with smaller blocks with a cavitay wall .
many thanks steven..
25-04-2010, 11:29 PM
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the maine part of my garage i keep my lorry in it to transport my track car about in, so its full , the other part i built on means i can work on my car with out haveing to take the lorry in and out. ther is enough room for 1 car up on the lift and another car along side of it mate. out side the garage i have an old lorry box body that i keep for my compressor i have it wired and piped through the wall and its also good for keeping spares it keeps the work shop tidy .
my garage is not at my house its at another house i own and rent out , its an old style cottage with a very very big yard and garden, its only 5 min drive from where i live, the yard would do with a tidy up , but because i dont live there i dont have to look at it.. my garage at my own houes if you put a car in it its full..
i will try and post up some photos of my garage mate to let you see it.
hows the escort comeing along i always followed your resto thread.
dominic mc neill motorsport here in ireland is building my escort just now..
thanks steven..
26-04-2010, 09:07 AM
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Quote a span on the RSJ's, my garage sits the other way so only spans the shorter distance. Mind you I have fitted a rolling block and tackle to mine so I expect to be lifting engines etc through the weight of mine as I don't have plans for a ramp yet due to the space the use up. Once you have a nice open space to work in it soon become full and you then want the room back. I could fit 6 cars in my garage but with two it seems too small!!
Do you have engineering blocks under the RSJ's, can't see any from the picture.
Do you have engineering blocks under the RSJ's, can't see any from the picture.
26-04-2010, 07:36 PM
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Maybe I'm not an expert on building but...
Would the steel beam come off from the blocks easily? I mean, it doesn't look like it's secured down?
How is it being held up? And how will it not move about too much?
Would the steel beam come off from the blocks easily? I mean, it doesn't look like it's secured down?
How is it being held up? And how will it not move about too much?
26-04-2010, 09:37 PM
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The build is by far nothing as bad as chips garage, but the pictures are showing an answer asked earlier as to why some builders are much cheaper than others. I wont point out anything at all other than the above as your happy with it Mark and thats all that matters
Last edited by Lee Reynolds; 26-04-2010 at 09:38 PM.
26-04-2010, 09:41 PM
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Yep. On that kind of roof design where the roof structure is relying soley on the beams to carry its weight and not triangulation as there is no ceiling joists then beams should be bolted down to the padstones. The rafters should also be birdsmouth cut onto the timber wall plates which should be bolted or shot fired to the beams. I see none of this but the pictures arent angled to show this. The roof as it is 'might' not go anywhere as it is over the years....but as with anything theres a right way of doing a job and another way of doing it that 'might do'.
The build is by far nothing as bad as chips garage, but the pictures are showing an answer asked earlier as to why some builders are much cheaper than others. I wont point out anything at all other than the above as your happy with it Mark and thats all that matters
The build is by far nothing as bad as chips garage, but the pictures are showing an answer asked earlier as to why some builders are much cheaper than others. I wont point out anything at all other than the above as your happy with it Mark and thats all that matters
phew i thought it was just my eyes
26-04-2010, 09:41 PM
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Yep. On that kind of roof design where the roof structure is relying soley on the beams to carry its weight and not triangulation as there is no ceiling joists then beams should be bolted down to the padstones. The rafters should also be birdsmouth cut onto the timber wall plates which should be bolted or shot fired to the beams. I see none of this but the pictures arent angled to show this. The roof as it is 'might' not go anywhere as it is over the years....but as with anything theres a right way of doing a job and another way of doing it that 'might do'.
The build is by far nothing as bad as chips garage, but the pictures are showing an answer asked earlier as to why some builders are much cheaper than others. I wont point out anything at all other than the above as your happy with it Mark and thats all that matters
The build is by far nothing as bad as chips garage, but the pictures are showing an answer asked earlier as to why some builders are much cheaper than others. I wont point out anything at all other than the above as your happy with it Mark and thats all that matters
Lee please do elaborate, its not going to make any differance to me or the build but out of pure interest if you would please ?
26-04-2010, 09:45 PM
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you as well, please elaborate rather than just make snide comments, like i have said above the build is not going to change, yet other people do have differant methods, yet no one has actually been able to justify a Ł10, 000 price differance between my cheapest quote (which is not what i went for btw) and the most expensive which was nearer Ł26,000 
So, the people who do this for a living please do comment, I would if thats what I did for a living - I wont be offended, Im a big lad
So, the people who do this for a living please do comment, I would if thats what I did for a living - I wont be offended, Im a big lad
26-04-2010, 09:52 PM
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I dont wanna come across as a twat Mark and to a lot of people what ive put would be minor, even your builders who would probably call me a picky cunt, but i believe attention to detail is the key.....
Out of interest what door are you having?
Also, is that sand protecting a finished concrete floor or is it the sand blinding?
Last edited by Lee Reynolds; 26-04-2010 at 09:57 PM.
26-04-2010, 09:55 PM
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Its things like the blockwork is rough, the wall plate isnt lapjointed and from the pics doesnt look like its bedded on the blockwork. I wouldn't be happy with the 10mm angle iron carrying the wall plate. The blocwork piers offer no real stability to the outer single leaf walls as they are only either tie ironed or expameted to the walls and not keyed in at least every other course.
I dont wanna come across as a twat Mark and to a lot of people what ive put would be minor, even your builders who would probably call me a picky cunt, but i believe attention to detail is the key.....
Out of interest what door are you having?
I dont wanna come across as a twat Mark and to a lot of people what ive put would be minor, even your builders who would probably call me a picky cunt, but i believe attention to detail is the key.....
Out of interest what door are you having?
" we have just found out the 3inch thick base has been laid on soil "
26-04-2010, 10:00 PM
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Its things like the blockwork is rough, the wall plate isnt lapjointed and from the pics doesnt look like its bedded on the blockwork. No birdsmouth cuts for the rafters and i wouldn't be happy with the 10mm angle iron carrying the wall plate. The blocwork piers offer no real stability to the outer single leaf walls as they are only either tie ironed or expameted to the walls and not keyed in at least every other course.
I dont wanna come across as a twat Mark and to a lot of people what ive put would be minor, even your builders who would probably call me a picky cunt, but i believe attention to detail is the key.....
Out of interest what door are you having?
I dont wanna come across as a twat Mark and to a lot of people what ive put would be minor, even your builders who would probably call me a picky cunt, but i believe attention to detail is the key.....
Out of interest what door are you having?
Lee, thanks for your honousty, and I can see what you mean, my background is steel work and steel structuring, so in every possible way I hate bricks and mortar,
The spec and finish of the block has been built as a garage, and as such is what I want, im not paying extra money for a shiney wall if you know what i mean ?
'birdsmouth' - you would have to explain that to me im afraid ?
all i can see is that the timbers have been cut onto every joist they touch and pasloaded on ?
the piers that are on the outer walls where put there to support the steels, no other reason, nothing to do with the outer walls, the piers to the sides (as seen in the pics) where originally specced to have a false floor above that working area, but im not sure i want to do that now.
I do appreciate your input, all along on the questions I have asked you have answered reasonably and with your professionalism, rather than people who add snidy comments with no justification
I feel I have got what I asked for so far on this job, and feel happy with the amount we agreed on - maybe that says something on what I expected for my garage ?
thanks for the comment Lee.
Last edited by markk; 26-04-2010 at 10:05 PM.
26-04-2010, 10:00 PM
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Good god! The building trade is fucked mate! Too many people thinking they can do the job! Needs regulating more, not just the gas and electrics side of it! Fucks me off! BTW thats not a dig at Marks garage as it isnt that bad, quite your everyday sort of build by the looks!
26-04-2010, 10:03 PM
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missed abit, roller shutter on the door up into the roof space if you get what i mean?
the floor, nothing on that yet, but the MOT and sand blinding - the weather has been so good that we decided to carry on with the block and the roof, the floor will be later, might as well have a floor spec so far it has 150mm whackered MOT, sand blinding on top of that, then its having 150mm of C35 concrete with 9mm wire mesh all over.
Im kind of hoping that shouldnt move
26-04-2010, 10:06 PM
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Lee, thanks for your honousty, and I can see what you mean, my background is steel work and steel structuring, so in every possible way I hate bricks and mortar,
The spec and finish of the block has been built as a garage, and as such is what I want, im not paying extra money for a shiney wall if you know what i mean ?
'birdsmouth' - you would have to explain that to me im afraid ?
all i can see is that the timbers have been cut onto every joist they toush and pasloaded on ?
the piers that are on the outer walls where put there to support the steels, no other reason, nothing to do with the outer walls, the piers to the sides (as seen in the pics) where originally specced to have a false floor above that working area, but im not sure i want to do that now.
I do appreciate your input, all along on the questions I have asked you have answered reasonably and with your professionalism, rather than people who add snidy comments with no justification
I feel I have got what I asked for so far on this job, and feel happy with the amount we agreed on - maybe that says something on what I expected for my garage ?
thanks for the comment Lee.
The spec and finish of the block has been built as a garage, and as such is what I want, im not paying extra money for a shiney wall if you know what i mean ?
'birdsmouth' - you would have to explain that to me im afraid ?
all i can see is that the timbers have been cut onto every joist they toush and pasloaded on ?
the piers that are on the outer walls where put there to support the steels, no other reason, nothing to do with the outer walls, the piers to the sides (as seen in the pics) where originally specced to have a false floor above that working area, but im not sure i want to do that now.
I do appreciate your input, all along on the questions I have asked you have answered reasonably and with your professionalism, rather than people who add snidy comments with no justification
I feel I have got what I asked for so far on this job, and feel happy with the amount we agreed on - maybe that says something on what I expected for my garage ?
thanks for the comment Lee.
I get what your saying about a shiney finish as its only a garage, its just i never take that attitude, we build everything to the same standard no matter what it is, and for the same cost...IE brickwork costs no more on an extension that it does a garage. Birdsmouth cut is a cut in the rafter thats shaped like a birdsmouth lol, so the rafter sits on the wallplate flat and not just laid on the wallplate but like i say photos dont show that so the joiner may have done it
Hope so as its standards practice. I know what ya mean about comments, to be fair Chips did warrant it though lol!