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Old 17-02-2011 | 07:48 AM
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Do you have a cvh or zetec box? As i had the 2.0 in my Escort last year and used the CVH flyweel and also just used rs turbo clutch kit. But now i'm using 1.8 flywheel and clutch, but didn't know if the zetec thrust bearing worked fine on the cvh clutch fork?
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i have mk4 escort efi xr3i

which engine is better and easier for this conversion for reliability and good fuel economy ?

i have a 2.0 silvertop mondeo engine with escort sump,pickup etc sitting and can also source a 1.8 92 xr2i full conversion

and whats better conversion plate or modded wiring looms and anyone want to sell me the parts i need
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is there anybody who can give me the pinouts formy 2FBC ECU of my 130PS 1,8 escort?

Thanks for help...
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Would this work in a mk2 fiesta ? same stuff ?
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Originally Posted by hotrod66
is there anybody who can give me the pinouts formy 2FBC ECU of my 130PS 1,8 escort?

Thanks for help...
If you are refering to the 12pin bulkhead plug then i think there the same as the 105ps car as was told ecu's are a straight swap between the non pats ext. edis ecu's???

If they are than this should work for you, asi now have mine in and running using these as connections.

92FB-12A650-CD 2FBCD ECU:
12PIN BULKHEAD CONNECTOR:

PIN1 COIL +12V FUSED (BLACK)
PIN2 FUEL PUMP RELAY EARTH TRIGGER PIN22 ON ECU (BROWN)
PIN3 REV COUNTER TACHO PIN4 ON ECU (GREEN)
PIN4 OCTANE ADJUST PIN29 ON ECU (BROWN/WHITE)
PIN5 ENGINE CONTROL RELAY PIN37,57 ON ECU AND POWER FOR ALL SENSORS (BLACK/GREEN)
PIN6 OIL PRESSURE SWITCH (BROWN/GREEN)
PIN7 CONSTANT +12V FOR ECU MEMORY (RED)
PIN8 HEGO (LAMBDA) +12V FUSED 15A (BLACK/RED)
PIN9 ENGINE TEMP SENDER (BROWN/WHITE)
PIN10 AIRCON TRIGGER PIN10 ON ECU (BLACK/WHITE)
PIN11 AIRCON TRIGGER PIN54 ON ECU (BROWN/GREEN)
PIN12 NOT USED
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thanks for that, I'll use it too, but I'm looking for the ECU pinout: the 60 pins...

I've found a pinout but without EDIS. Mine works with EDIS

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Old 20-04-2011 | 10:41 AM
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How difficult would it be to 2l zetec a 1.6 mk6 escort?
Old 25-04-2011 | 09:51 AM
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I'm looking to do this to my mk3 escort estate,
got an engine loom and gearbox from a 97 escort gti coming, bike carb setup from chester sports cars to ditch the injection system,
Can I use the gearbox from the gti or better to get a cvh turbo box or similar..
What exhaust manifold do people use?

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Originally Posted by hotrod66
thanks for that, I'll use it too, but I'm looking for the ECU pinout: the 60 pins...

I've found a pinout but without EDIS. Mine works with EDIS
If your looking for a pin out chart its best to look at the haynes manual for the pin no.s fiesta or escort/orion manual should give you what you want, but as you would need the engine loom anyway just makes more sence to go off the 12 pin multi plug unless you are intending on making your own loom up?
Old 06-08-2011 | 07:52 PM
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Hello, need some advice.. seen your post however still confused.

Im using the Blacktop head, same bottom end but a 2.0, its had the Mtx gearbox however the engine wont fit at all box catches and hangs to far no space at all so i fitted the cvh turbo box from my old engine, no joy.

Places its catching are.

Gearbox, and also rear bottom pully, which catches just where the driveshafts fit, and the alternator also catches.

Should i remove the alternator, and place this on the front as you have said, and remove that pully?

what mounts are best, and what else do i need to mod so the engine goes in and mounts??

Thanks, sii

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Hi i have a mk2 fiesta originally 1 litre and i have a silvertop 1.8 zetec from a mk6 escort. I have the engine fitted and i have bike carbs from a honda cbr900 fitted to the engine i now need to know how to get it started spark wise.I am on a very tight budget so any help would really be appreciated. Ive been told to use an esc module from a mk4 escort is this right? And is there any other way to do it as i cant seem to find an esc module. And also you said to use cvh alternator and alternator mount etc. will the ohv mount and alternator work? if i use the original ohv alternator and mount with zetec pulley what kind of belt do i need? Thank you very much this is all thats in the way of getting my car that i have put a huge amount of work into started so i hugely appreciate it.
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Apparantly PATS can be disabled, if anyone knows how i would like a pm as im on the look out for zetec and knowing my luck it will have it lol
from what i can see from stripping down my pats loom which i brought in error there is only 2 wires from the main pats box that go to the ecu and one wire too the fuel pump feed.... and by the looks of this its not going to be too hard to adapt it. also found wiring diagram for ecu connector, this is the page i saw

http://www.auto-diagnostics.info/ford_eec_iv

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Old 08-10-2011 | 09:21 PM
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did you you the lamda sensor ? thought i'd have to change my box but just seeing your last pictures there might be a ray of light .... i'll be using the pats loom which i hope to chop of the pats as it only cuts off the negertive for the fuel pump relay, starter and two other thick wires which i hope to solve shortly ...... as for the relays that control the fuel pump i'll try and manage it ...as im going from carb to zetec power
Old 11-10-2011 | 08:51 PM
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carl when you done the conversion did you use a edis box ? looms out of a 1.6 si going in carb'd orion
Old 08-12-2011 | 01:16 PM
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hi all i have read through ur thread but am still confused so if you could help id be very greatful.

i have a mk4 escort van with a 1.3 petrol engine with a manual choke and i wont to put a 1.8 zetec engine in it,
i have a mk3 fiesta witch was a 1.1 but was fitted with a 1.8 zetec so i was thinking of taking all the bits from this ie loom and efi inlet manifold will this work it has got the ring round the ignition barrel but ill just put the spare key with it in the glove box.

on the van will i need a different fuel pump and fuel tank and will i need any other parts or anything else, i no this is a big ask but if you could help i would be very greatful as i sed before. cheers darren
Old 13-12-2011 | 08:51 PM
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hi new to this and looking for help plz great info so far i have just bought a mk2 fiesta 1.1 and realy want to zetec it instead of putting the cvh engine... is the wiring from the 1.1 differnt to the xr2 loom and can u use the 4 speed box realy want to do this conversion so any advice would be great thanks.
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I have got a 1.3 escort with carb. what zetec engine would be best to use and what parts would I need to convert it cheers
Old 21-01-2012 | 09:44 PM
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Well I used the si fiesta loom took off what I didn't need and had to add wires for the fuel pump, but the wiring was easy as hell but was a bit daughting at the time..... The engine mount needs adapting and the exhaust needs modification
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Used my cvh clutch ont the fiesta flywheel but it has the 2 ltr Mondeo lump make sure the sum is the rite one on the engine other wise the exhaust won't fit also used the cvh gearbox housing plate just cut abit off for the crank sensor pick up
Old 11-02-2012 | 04:33 PM
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i have cvh engine on carb but want to but a zetec turbo in my orion,, but need to change the wiring loom. does anybody no where to disconect the engine from????
Old 10-06-2012 | 01:33 AM
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hi i have recently converted my 1.6 cvh engine mk4 orion to a 1.8 fiesta zetec engine using the fiesta ecu and loom wired into my own loom car starts fine but as soon as the engine warms up and you try to drive it it starts splutering and losses power to the point where it hardly moves when you press the accelerator to the point where it tries to cut out help me please
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have you changed to the 1,8 fuelpump??
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Hi it is running a xr3i fuel tank and pump
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the car starts just dont rev out and its stumped me
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Sounds like the ignitions being retarded. You got the fan wired up ?
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Hi all.
I've been thinking of an engine upgrade for a few months now.
Just a quick question, would I be able to do this with a 1.8 engine out of a mk6 gti escort!
Also, would I be able to use my standard 1.6 cvh gearbox?

Thanks,
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hi on the ofab ecu fiesta 1.8 there is a grey 12 pin plug can any1 tell me what colours the wires r on the other end of the plug going into dashboard please
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Originally Posted by bigbro
hi on the ofab ecu fiesta 1.8 there is a grey 12 pin plug can any1 tell me what colours the wires r on the other end of the plug going into dashboard please
To be honest I found it easy to look on the Internet for every bit of wiring and the conversion just typed in fiesta multi plug and it all came up takes a little looking into
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[QUOTE=orion_crazy_carl;3585255]yeah the focus 2 lite is very much similer,heres a couple of piccys of my red one with said engine in:
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Hi there I have a escort cabby mk4 xr3i about to do a conversion on it I'm only changing it for an escort 1.6 si zetech will I need to change the flywheel and any other info please
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[QUOTE=Cabbymick;6157988][QUOTE=orion_crazy_carl;3585255]yeah the focus 2 lite is very much similer,heres a couple of piccys of my red one with said engine in:
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job well done may i say!! looks great neat and tidy, dont suppose your any good at fault finding my zetec wont fire and i have run out of ideas on what to check next
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hi guys ive just put a 16v zetec in my mk4 cabby as big ends went on shitty cvh.i bunged it in with zetec gearbox and efi manifold and used the wiring harness of my mk4 and all i had to do was extend the oxgygen and water temp sensor plugs and swap the throttle sensor plug for zetec as cvh one was diffrent everything else was alredi there and had to f**k around with hoses but ended up using the mk6 escort bottom rad hose and runnin it across the top of rad and but works fine and all runs sweet i used the cvh alternator bracket and the zetec alternator and a shorter belt all done for the grand total of Ł200 for the donor mk6 cabby and i made Ł210 of selling most of the parts i didnt need so all in all i did my conversion for a grand total of minus Ł10 yay
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hi guys cant work out what to do with altenator.. iv swapped the pully from the zetec on to the cvh altenator but cant work out bracket someone please help !!!!!
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Originally Posted by SAV191x
hi guys cant work out what to do with altenator.. iv swapped the pully from the zetec on to the cvh altenator but cant work out bracket someone please help !!!!!

use the cvh bracket
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Belt wont tighten at all ?
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you have to use a smaller belt the one im using is 925mm long I ordered a 6pk925 belt off ebay fits a treat
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Originally Posted by steve723
you have to use a smaller belt the one im using is 925mm long I ordered a 6pk925 belt off ebay fits a treat
thank you very much
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Hi guys really need help just converted my zetec s to a puma 17 and the tempreture gauge isint working any ideas why? Someone said somethings about pins? I do have a puma ecu aswell as the top end please help in need as doin the car when i wake up widh me luck:/ thanks
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Quick question, done the conversion myself loving the power
But it's running way too rich any advice ? Running 2ltr with down pipe
In to rs turbo exhaust unplugged the 4th injector today and running
Stayed the same ... Any ideas



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