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Old 10-02-2007, 05:35 PM
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I think you'll find Stians is proper WRC with active diffs etc so I'd put my money on it being fundamentally quicker than Martins around a track.
fancy isnt always effective
Do you honestly believe that a full on WRC car with Active diffs, proper wrc front and rear end is not more effective than a well modified standard cossie setup. Now I don't claim to know a fraction of Martins set up but I do know he hasn't got active diffs, and the rear beam looks to be based on the standard layout.

Put the same engine in both cars and which do you think would be quicker around a track? If it isn't why to the rally teams spend all that money on development
Paul I agree wholeheartedly with what your saying, an ex WRC car with millions of pounds worth of development in it will ultimately be quicker round the track than a fast road/track car

However I will just point out that I think Martin has a fully active Centre Diff, just not front and rears...

Stian's car is the best Cossie in the world IMHO!
Old 10-02-2007, 06:13 PM
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Regarding to an x-WRC car fancy should ALWAYS be effective! If not it dead-weight.. I thing Stian tought about converting to conventional diffs to make it easyer to drive sideways
Old 10-02-2007, 07:00 PM
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Has stian ever did proper lap of a racetrack whit his wrc escort whitout getting sideways or drifting??
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Originally Posted by RS500
Has stian ever did proper lap of a racetrack whit his wrc escort whitout getting sideways or drifting??
Yes.
Old 10-02-2007, 07:26 PM
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Has stian ever did proper lap of a racetrack whit his wrc escort whitout getting sideways or drifting??
Yes.
You have any lap times of his laps.
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He did some really clean laps during "gatebil extreem series" couple of years ago, when he went against the fastest norwegian cars of all makes, the car in 2nd place was almost one straight behind!
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Originally Posted by K.Goa
He did some really clean laps during "gatebil extreem series" couple of years ago, when he went against the fastest norwegian cars of all makes, the car in 2nd place was almost one straight behind!
So he won with ease, wouldn't expect anything else really would you! Must admit the guy's driving skills are as good as the spec of the car, legend!
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He also did one outing in Norwegian hillclimbchampionship with the escort, an event called "Korketrekkeren".
He did win the whole event and set a new record for the hill, even thoug he was driving on roadtires the first day of the event, due to problems with delivery of his slicks!
Roger Bakken who was in the very top of norwegian rallying that year came second in his celica gt4 group A. Where Bakken did really clean, smooth lines, Hafsengen was going sideways with smoke comming out of all 4 wheelwells and he still won!
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Originally Posted by K.Goa
He also did one outing in Norwegian hillclimbchampionship with the escort, an event called "Korketrekkeren".
He did win the whole event and set a new record for the hill, even thoug he was driving on roadtires the first day of the event, due to problems with delivery of his slicks!
Roger Bakken who was in the very top of norwegian rallying that year came second in his celica gt4 group A. Where Bakken did really clean, smooth lines, Hafsengen was going sideways with smoke comming out of all 4 wheelwells and he still won!
I have the full dvd of the wrc escort
What is the spec of roger bakken celica gt4??
Has the engine still the inlet ristrictor??
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Wasn't Stian's car set up to run 30% on front and 70% in the rear, hence why his perfect drifting was achieved???

He has actually bought the MK6 Fiesta rally shell, so should be quite interesting. Those cars seem to be the phase lately...

Ove with the 800bhp EVO 6 has done better laps than Stian, I don't think Stian can help being a showman when he's in his car...has to drift!

Quality!
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Originally Posted by COCHYN
Wasn't Stian's car set up to run 30% on front and 70% in the rear, hence why his perfect drifting was achieved???

He has actually bought the MK6 Fiesta rally shell, so should be quite interesting. Those cars seem to be the phase lately...

Ove with the 800bhp EVO 6 has done better laps than Stian, I don't think Stian can help being a showman when he's in his car...has to drift!

Quality!
All sounds good, how do you know so much as to what he's been up to then mate? lol
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Originally Posted by COCHYN
Wasn't Stian's car set up to run 30% on front and 70% in the rear, hence why his perfect drifting was achieved???

He has actually bought the MK6 Fiesta rally shell, so should be quite interesting. Those cars seem to be the phase lately...

Ove with the 800bhp EVO 6 has done better laps than Stian, I don't think Stian can help being a showman when he's in his car...has to drift!

Quality!
Evo 5 actually...
Old 11-02-2007, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Eggleton
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I think you'll find Stians is proper WRC with active diffs etc so I'd put my money on it being fundamentally quicker than Martins around a track.
fancy isnt always effective
Do you honestly believe that a full on WRC car with Active diffs, proper wrc front and rear end is not more effective than a well modified standard based cossie setup. Now I don't claim to know a fraction of Martins set up but I do know he hasn't got active diffs, and the rear beam looks to be based on the standard layout.

Put the same engine in both cars and which do you think would be quicker around a track? If it isn't why to the rally teams spend all that money on development
The problem with active differentials is that you need a proper engineer to have them set up, and stian has been complaining about these differentials all the time.
And getting an engineer or trying different diff maps cost alot of money.
while if he had been using mechanical diffs he probably could have a more likeable setup done by himself.
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