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Old 10-08-2007, 10:00 AM
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Looking for some help setting up the equalizer on my pc! This is something ive never known how to do, obviously u can play around with it and get it sounding ok but id appreciate knowing how to do it properly and what parts of it effect which part of the sound. Its not a full on seperate equalizer as you can imagine, just the one which is part of Itunes, but id assume that once you can set one up, they are all fairly similar in principle!

I listen to alot of Drum & Bass, Hard House, Hip Hop, and Breakbeat so most of the stuff has alot of Bass! I know you can use the pre-set functions i.e Jazz/Rock etc but none of them sound that great and id prefer to have it fully customised.

If it helps, the speaker set up i have is also quite simple! 2 x satellite speakers and 1 x small sub. Nothing special but does an alright job, would just like to get the most out of what ive got!
Old 11-08-2007, 04:36 PM
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an EQ is there for YOU to tune the sound how YOU want it... no-one can tell you how to do it....

nuf said
Old 11-08-2007, 10:25 PM
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yep ive either got 2 speakers on mine or ive got 8 and a sub on it and i run 2 equalizers on mine but as said you can only set it to how you want it
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Originally Posted by biglee
an EQ is there for YOU to tune the sound how YOU want it... no-one can tell you how to do it....

nuf said
So no one can tell me how the individual settings effect the sound that is produced? Ive tried different settings to try and find a sound that is what i want but its not working!

What parts of the scale relate to what sound, i.e bass/treble etc.......
Old 14-08-2007, 03:35 PM
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i see where you coming form i dont know what they are just play about with them and see what they do
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I've set mine to this.



Seems to work well on a varied selection of music.
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Can't beat a big 'V shape'
Old 15-08-2007, 07:46 AM
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oh dear, a big smiley face.... not good...

from a professinal point of veiw you should allways cut frequencys never boost as this can hinder your system, like useing more of its power o/p to a certain frequency, this is not good... you should listen to your system flat to start with, all the faders at the center, then push each one indervidually and see which ones your ears like and dont like, the ones you do like leave in the center and the ones you dont like move them down untill they sound right for you... as i said there is no real way of setting an eq up but you can follow guide lines on how to set it for your ears, if you end up with a sort of flat line with a few frequencys dropped out then your on the right track to having your system right in the first place, if your find yourself taking loads of frequencys out then you will ned to look at your set up to find a good start.... on all my systems i dont use eq's as they are right in the first place...
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Just had another little play using Lee's advice.

Alot cleaner sound, but still got some depth and plenty of bass when needed.



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Originally Posted by biglee
oh dear, a big smiley face.... not good...

from a professinal point of veiw you should allways cut frequencys never boost as this can hinder your system, like useing more of its power o/p to a certain frequency, this is not good... you should listen to your system flat to start with, all the faders at the center, then push each one indervidually and see which ones your ears like and dont like, the ones you do like leave in the center and the ones you dont like move them down untill they sound right for you... as i said there is no real way of setting an eq up but you can follow guide lines on how to set it for your ears, if you end up with a sort of flat line with a few frequencys dropped out then your on the right track to having your system right in the first place, if your find yourself taking loads of frequencys out then you will ned to look at your set up to find a good start.... on all my systems i dont use eq's as they are right in the first place...
Thats more like what i wanted to hear! Thanks for taking the time to reply in such depth! Very very helpful!
Old 20-08-2007, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by _DAN_
Just had another little play using Lee's advice.

Alot cleaner sound, but still got some depth and plenty of bass when needed.



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now thats better, normal ears dont like 4K, and 2.5k as this is the frequency that babies scream at to get your attention LOL
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Originally Posted by Redeye Jedi
Originally Posted by biglee
oh dear, a big smiley face.... not good...

from a professinal point of veiw you should allways cut frequencys never boost as this can hinder your system, like useing more of its power o/p to a certain frequency, this is not good... you should listen to your system flat to start with, all the faders at the center, then push each one indervidually and see which ones your ears like and dont like, the ones you do like leave in the center and the ones you dont like move them down untill they sound right for you... as i said there is no real way of setting an eq up but you can follow guide lines on how to set it for your ears, if you end up with a sort of flat line with a few frequencys dropped out then your on the right track to having your system right in the first place, if your find yourself taking loads of frequencys out then you will ned to look at your set up to find a good start.... on all my systems i dont use eq's as they are right in the first place...
Thats more like what i wanted to hear! Thanks for taking the time to reply in such depth! Very very helpful!
no probs, im a professional audio engineer, so its my job to know things like this
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Originally Posted by biglee
Originally Posted by _DAN_
Just had another little play using Lee's advice.

Alot cleaner sound, but still got some depth and plenty of bass when needed.



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now thats better, normal ears dont like 4K, and 2.5k as this is the frequency that babies scream at to get your attention LOL
So am i right in saying that the frequencies at the top, i.e 16k are the high pitched end of the scale? And the opposite end, i.e 32/64 are the bassy end? Or am i completely wrong?!
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Originally Posted by Redeye Jedi
Originally Posted by biglee
Originally Posted by _DAN_
Just had another little play using Lee's advice.

Alot cleaner sound, but still got some depth and plenty of bass when needed.



biglee
now thats better, normal ears dont like 4K, and 2.5k as this is the frequency that babies scream at to get your attention LOL
So am i right in saying that the frequencies at the top, i.e 16k are the high pitched end of the scale? And the opposite end, i.e 32/64 are the bassy end? Or am i completely wrong?!
yes mate its all in cycles per second..
ie 32 hz is 32 times a second movement... and 16k is 16 thousand hz.. 16 thousand times movement a secnd.. blah blah ...
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BigLee knows what he's talking about, and I agree fully with him, but I must admit to being a bit partial to the "scoop effect"

My WMP EQ settings;



Boost the low end a little for some extra "oomph" and tweek the high end up for a little sharper clairty, and leave the mid in the middle

A very simplistic way of describing how an EQ works describing sounds with words is like this.

From the low end, the lower controls change how bassy it sounds. The very end of this is pure rumble, then thump, and into punch.

Mids add/detract "tension". Boosting a mid can make, guitar music especially, music sound very "tense" and "tight". They can also add a "harshness" to the sound.

Treble frequencies add/detract "sharpness", "brightness" and "glitter". You can improve clarity with these to an extent, tho too much either way will kill your high end - either making it sound muffled (down) or over bearing (up) as too high makes it very sharp....
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Didn't realise boosting was a bad idea - but now I think about it, it makes sense

I'm also a fan of the 'scoop'
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Originally Posted by Thrush
BigLee knows what he's talking about, and I agree fully with him, but I must admit to being a bit partial to the "scoop effect"

My WMP EQ settings;



Boost the low end a little for some extra "oomph" and tweek the high end up for a little sharper clairty, and leave the mid in the middle

A very simplistic way of describing how an EQ works describing sounds with words is like this.

From the low end, the lower controls change how bassy it sounds. The very end of this is pure rumble, then thump, and into punch.

Mids add/detract "tension". Boosting a mid can make, guitar music especially, music sound very "tense" and "tight". They can also add a "harshness" to the sound.

Treble frequencies add/detract "sharpness", "brightness" and "glitter". You can improve clarity with these to an extent, tho too much either way will kill your high end - either making it sound muffled (down) or over bearing (up) as too high makes it very sharp....
You legend! BigLee's explanation was good but that was exactly what i wanted to see, answered my question 100% and now i fully understand (even more so now i have 2 opinions) how the equaliser functions and how the individual settings will effect the actual sound! Thank you kindly!
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