Dan1281

we have just finished building this, it took quite a bit of working out.

what do you think? we had to extend it too

turnover

yeh like it ,was gonna do one like that myself but couldnt be arsed to extend the chassis

Dan1281

to be honest the stretch was the easy part, some folded steel, new brake lines, handbrake cable extention (so a std replacment can be used if needed) and an extended prop with extra bearing

building the body was about 80% measuring and checking and 20% making

top result though, works fantastic

Iain Mac

The rear overhang looks very long - is it still within the limits?

Dan1281

its actually quite a bit within the limits, its a bit decieving but because its a crew cab its a good long wheelbase its allowed quite a bit of overhang

CRAIG HAYTER

Dan thats a belter

alistairolsen

Been through the IVA?

white2lsr

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Top work

born_again_kid

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How much does it weigh empty. I have a crew cab with a steel pick up body and it goes just over 2.5tonnes empty leaving me a a little over 940 kilos payload before i hit the 3.5 tonne GVW.

Dan1281

it weighs 2380, which is a lot but for a crew cab tilt and slide its very light

Graceland

Dan - Superb bit of kit

Slightly off topic though, Next eyar I'm going to be looking at a flatbed/beavertail for transporting my car about to trackdays and Nurburgring trips (not using the Cossie on the road next year) - nothing too fancy or expensive but half decent enough to get the job done - something like an old LDV or Transit GVW 3.5T or if needed in order to not exceed the GVW, an Iveco 7.5T or equivelant.

Would I need to have it tacho fitted for personal use, or would that only need to be done if I was to use it for recovery work aswell?

Dan1281

if its no heavier than 3500kg then you can do what you like with it, no tacho or operators licence or anything, its once you get above 3 and a half ton you need loads of official crap

Graceland

Ahhh Cheers - Looking like a lightweight 3.5t unit then is required - any tips on what to steer clear of (base vehicle wise) and what is considered to be a good tool?

born_again_kid

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If it weighs 2380kg Does that not leave you with a payload of 1120 kg including passengers. I only ask as thats the reason I didnt convert mine. I would have thought the Mondeo would make it overloaded. Dont mean be negative as its a top class conversion just looking at the practacality of it.

bigal1978

not thought
it is over loaded

alistairolsen

infact with 6 people in the drew cab at 70kg each you could only have a 70kg car on the back.....

white2lsr

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Recovery vehicles are exhempt from tacho rules

Graceland

Only if they are operating within 100km/62 mile radius of the resgistered base for the vehicle.............According to the DVLA website that is.

white2lsr

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And not many will

Dan1281

To be honest when we were selling our last slider. We had a good few people ring us up and ask about making them a crew cab

We've got bids on it so people seem to want it

kal1

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Very nice mate.

MrMPuk

Isn't the max overhang 40% of the wheelbase? That looks like it's slightly over that especially with the lights being set so far in.

Iain Mac

I think it is still 60% of wheelbase for a rigid, but the payload quoted above could be an issue.

andyt

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2nd that aswell

Roscco

Nice work mate, never knew people build these themselves

banhambuilt

overhang can not be over 75% of the total wheelbase


dave

Dan1281

its a long basterd when you're on tight roads, the body is 16'6

and as for the iva, its only been stretched, we did it properly though with an extra prop bearing, its been through an MOT since we finished it aswell

alistairolsen

Modified chassis means it needs an IVA test and passing an mot is of no consequence

kev 3dr

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Gracey if its "not fire hire or reward" you dont need a Tacho only tax and MOT and normal insurance hence horse boxes and proper race teams gettin away with paying normal vehicle tax etc !!!

kris-rs

looks good
im after a crew cab tranny recovery truck looking to pay about 7k
do you know of any going

Miller 3

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Dan1281

it doesnt say that on the website, just says as long as it doesnt exceed a set overall length

and modifying a chassis could be from welding a bracket to it to replacing it completely and it running on twin trailer axles

its taxed tested and insured, its legal

markk

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great looking tool again pal, totally useless though to anyone in the know or wanting to be within the law.

stop fooking about with the little ones, build a proper one, you obv have the skills and patients.

Dan1281

people want them though, there is 9 different people bidding on it at the moment, its only been on a day

this one is only the second one we have built, heres the first one



as you can see the new revised one slides off more giving a better loading angle, the red one weighed in at 2240 and was full steel, i reckon we could make a day cab with aluminium weighing in at 2050ish

but if the crew cab sells for good money then its worth making more

everybody who has seen it has said how good it is and looks like a factory job when its really just me and my uncle in a old barn lol but its attention to detail that counts, we're really picky about that, no spikey edges or nasty open ends of box section sticking out

michael harbour

is this for sale?

DazC

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people will always want a 3500kg truck and once they own it, it's up to them to stay under the gross vehicle weight. With only a payload of 1100kg this is pretty useless for anything heavier than a series 2. If you can get the pay load up to 1500kg it'd be a good truck that would be hard to beat..

alistairolsen

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...le/DG_10014199

Specifically:

You are quite right that the definition of a modified chassis leaves a lot to be desired, and a lot of people dont bother, but to extend one I would say is a significant modification (which already has a precendent from the landrover boys)

No, that's where your wrong. To insure a car you merely need a chassis number and whatever details you choose to give. The accuracy of those details decides whether that is legal or not.

An MOT only determines if 52 points on the vehicle are in working condition, it is not concerned with correct registration, examination or modification, or even ensuring road worthiness.

Finally a tax disk means you have presented an MOT and insurance cert for a vehicle for which you hold the (now invalid) V5 and paid a fee to use it on the road.

None of these change the fact that the vehicle is now illegally registered!

remember that payload is 3500 gross, so that includes passengers. 6 guys at a conservative 70kg each are 420kg, so if you want the full compliment of people aboard you're down to 700kg...

utternutter

personally id build one on a 5t iveco etc, the front wheel drive fixed bed french gear etc is ultra great as low weight and you can make the beds low as the rear chassis just bolts to the front, if you can make light 3500 trucks that look ace you will earn well out of them, a lot of the big boys are going back to them

DazC

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You seem to confuse the term pay load and gross vehicle weight. These are 2 seperate measures totally. If the vehicle had a pay load of 3500kg then it can carry legally 3.5 tonnes. A pay load is a pay load and is what the vehicle can carry before it reaches it's limit. A 3500kg GVW vehicle that weighs 2000kg will have a pay load of 1500kg only. This particular vehicle in the first post only has a pay load of 1100kg so a standard empty series 2 RST and 1 person will put it on it's limit, which is it's gross vehicle weight of 3500kg.

Gross vehicle weight is the maximum the vehicle can weigh including all tools, equipment, occupants, fuel, spare wheels and goods or anything else carried in the vehicle.

Gross train weight is another thing all together again, as are individual axle weights.

Glenn_

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Thats a proper truck.