Plenum Spacers for YB
05-02-2006, 05:23 PM
#41
Originally Posted by Alloy
Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
....just like the ESCOS EEC4....bigger plenum/elbow and throttle body with small turbo ='s the best drivability there is in YB terms.
Chip all you out for is glory against ME...how sad
Chip all you out for is glory against ME...how sad
05-02-2006, 05:26 PM
#42
Originally Posted by Alloy
Sorry, what is det can's chip?
They also use them as a safety check when doing the topspeed runs, hence they get used so often the copper bit lives on the car ready for them!
05-02-2006, 05:29 PM
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Sorry for being a pest chip, but incase you didn't see:
I'm assuming it's something to do with detonation, but I'd like to know the technical side of it and what hardware is involved...only if you don't mind explaining of course. 
Originally Posted by Alloy
Sorry, what is det can's chip?
05-02-2006, 05:29 PM
#47
Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
I apologise i was looking at a bigger picture...and Chip still didnt fit
Sorry.
Sorry.
You werent looking at the bigger picture correctly though phil.
The larger plenum, in whatever picture, is NEVER there for driveability. its there for top end power.
05-02-2006, 05:31 PM
#49
Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Bad advice?Where?In this thread...i quoted IN THEORY it improves drivability i didnt say it WOULD....MANY MANY variables to drivability 
Fooking hell Phil, STOP AND THINK!
Its such a basic principle!
05-02-2006, 05:32 PM
#50
Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Bad advice?Where?In this thread...i quoted IN THEORY it improves drivability i didnt say it WOULD....MANY MANY variables to drivability
05-02-2006, 05:34 PM
#51
Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Bad advice?Where?In this thread...i quoted IN THEORY it improves drivability i didnt say it WOULD....MANY MANY variables to drivability
05-02-2006, 05:43 PM
#56
Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Originally Posted by Alloy
A bit like a well used women...to which you are not familiar
It is,as my women is a 10 stone Rottie
And probably has a better grasp of physics than you phil
05-02-2006, 05:47 PM
#57
Physics?
.....let me mention T4 at the same boost pressure as a T34.....they do NOT create the same amount of air....so a bigger opening will fill up the plenum quicker than the smaller opening can...thats PHYSICS.
.....let me mention T4 at the same boost pressure as a T34.....they do NOT create the same amount of air....so a bigger opening will fill up the plenum quicker than the smaller opening can...thats PHYSICS.
05-02-2006, 05:51 PM
#58
Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Physics?
.....let me mention T4 at the same boost pressure as a T34.....they do NOT create the same amount of air....so a bigger opening will fill up the plenum quicker than the smaller opening can...thats PHYSICS.
.....let me mention T4 at the same boost pressure as a T34.....they do NOT create the same amount of air....so a bigger opening will fill up the plenum quicker than the smaller opening can...thats PHYSICS.
Have you STILL not grasped that a larger plenum will reduce driveability?
Or have you grasped that but dont like admitting you are completely wrong so are trying to change the subject still?
Got to be one reason or the other you are chatting such shit, its either cause you cant work out the real answer, or cause you have but now realise what a tool you made of yourself by not being able to grasp it sooner without me and martin explaining it.
05-02-2006, 05:56 PM
#62
You and Martin ...Pal you aint in that chaps league 
I quoted in theory...if not being one dimensional....its not like anyone just puts a plenum spacer on a std Cossie with no other factors is it?
BUT if your being one dimensional like Chip...then it will make drivability slightly worse...even though you never really asked that more power advantages....so a one dimension chip style answer would be....would not make a blind bit of difference if you are ONLY doin that mod
...Pal you aint in that chaps league I quoted in theory...if not being one dimensional....its not like anyone just puts a plenum spacer on a std Cossie with no other factors is it?
BUT if your being one dimensional like Chip...then it will make drivability slightly worse...even though you never really asked that more power advantages....so a one dimension chip style answer would be....would not make a blind bit of difference if you are ONLY doin that mod
05-02-2006, 06:02 PM
#63
Phil, so are you saying that if he fits:
a larger plenum
a larger throttle
and a larger turbo
It will then be more driveable at low rpm and part throttle?
if so
But just for the record, as you still dont seem to grasp it, no matter what size throttle he has on there, it STILL going to be a disadvantage to driveablity to use a larger plenum.
If you had two engines with a larger throttle size and one had the smaller plenum that would respond better too, not just if you did it on 2 engines with smaller throttle sizes.
There is NOTHING one dimensional about it at all, its always the case!
a larger plenum
a larger throttle
and a larger turbo
It will then be more driveable at low rpm and part throttle?
if so
But just for the record, as you still dont seem to grasp it, no matter what size throttle he has on there, it STILL going to be a disadvantage to driveablity to use a larger plenum.
If you had two engines with a larger throttle size and one had the smaller plenum that would respond better too, not just if you did it on 2 engines with smaller throttle sizes.
There is NOTHING one dimensional about it at all, its always the case!
05-02-2006, 06:12 PM
#66
Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
I love this place
Although not like the old days when i could have a thousand users arguing the toss Not as many stupid people around now i guess
Although not like the old days when i could have a thousand users arguing the toss
Not as many stupid people around now i guess How do you manage to type with that level of inteligence, let along compicated things like drive?
05-02-2006, 06:14 PM
#67
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
I love this place
Although not like the old days when i could have a thousand users arguing the toss Not as many stupid people around now i guess
Although not like the old days when i could have a thousand users arguing the toss
Not as many stupid people around now i guess How do you manage to type with that level of inteligence, let along compicated things like drive?
05-02-2006, 06:17 PM
#68
You dont realise how GOOD it is to be known as dumb....no one asks me anything,no one beleives what i type...so no one expects anything from me...so i can just go about DIYing MY own vehicles to my standards...although if judging by my persona on here i am shocked my cars actually run
05-02-2006, 07:00 PM
#73
Originally Posted by martin-reyland
phil, i am going to attach a large dustbin to my engine with a single throttle on the other end and use that as a plenum ....in your experiance do you think this will improve drivability?
Thats one way Martin
i was going to fit a 9" thick spacer to improve mine.Surely Phil is on drugs
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