Cause when phil is wrong, he is never clever enough to spot it, so normally tries to change the subject to something totally different so no one notices what a monumentally bad bit of advice he just gave someone

 

Det cans are what Rods tuner (mark shead) uses to listen out for detonation within the engine when he is setting up the fuelling and more specifically the timing on Rods engine.

They also use them as a safety check when doing the topspeed runs, hence they get used so often the copper bit lives on the car ready for them!

 

I apologise i was looking at a bigger picture...and Chip still didnt fit


Sorry.

 

 

Bad advice?Where?In this thread...i quoted IN THEORY it improves drivability i didnt say it WOULD....MANY MANY variables to drivability

 

Sorry for being a pest chip, but incase you didn't see:

I'm assuming it's something to do with detonation, but I'd like to know the technical side of it and what hardware is involved...only if you don't mind explaining of course.

 

You werent looking at the bigger picture correctly though phil.

The larger plenum, in whatever picture, is NEVER there for driveability. its there for top end power.

 

Ah, nevermind, seen your reply above. Thank's mate.

 

What theory, the theory where it takes less time to fill a bigger space?

Fooking hell Phil, STOP AND THINK!

Its such a basic principle!

 

phil, i am going to attach a large dustbin to my engine with a single throttle on the other end and use that as a plenum ....in your experiance do you think this will improve drivability?

 

or if not in experience, just in theory phil

 

...but there is a bigger throttle so it counteracts it surely?..For the same throttle position one has a bigger opening.


A bit like a well used women...to which you are not familiar

 

GOD I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!

Pete...

 

Other people using your woman is nothing to be proud of.

 

It is,as my women is a 10 stone Rottie

 

And probably has a better grasp of physics than you phil

 

Physics?

.....let me mention T4 at the same boost pressure as a T34.....they do NOT create the same amount of air....so a bigger opening will fill up the plenum quicker than the smaller opening can...thats PHYSICS.

 

Thats all nice simple basic stuff, but how is it relevant to the thread starter changing the plenum size on his engine?

Have you STILL not grasped that a larger plenum will reduce driveability?

Or have you grasped that but dont like admitting you are completely wrong so are trying to change the subject still?

Got to be one reason or the other you are chatting such shit, its either cause you cant work out the real answer, or cause you have but now realise what a tool you made of yourself by not being able to grasp it sooner without me and martin explaining it.

 

jesus wept

 

uh oh.....

 

welcome to the wonderful world of passion ford

 

You and Martin ...Pal you aint in that chaps league


I quoted in theory...if not being one dimensional....its not like anyone just puts a plenum spacer on a std Cossie with no other factors is it?

BUT if your being one dimensional like Chip...then it will make drivability slightly worse...even though you never really asked that more power advantages....so a one dimension chip style answer would be....would not make a blind bit of difference if you are ONLY doin that mod

 

Phil, so are you saying that if he fits:

a larger plenum
a larger throttle
and a larger turbo


It will then be more driveable at low rpm and part throttle?


if so





But just for the record, as you still dont seem to grasp it, no matter what size throttle he has on there, it STILL going to be a disadvantage to driveablity to use a larger plenum.

If you had two engines with a larger throttle size and one had the smaller plenum that would respond better too, not just if you did it on 2 engines with smaller throttle sizes.


There is NOTHING one dimensional about it at all, its always the case!

 

I love this place

Although not like the old days when i could have a thousand users arguing the toss Not as many stupid people around now i guess

 

 

Have you STILL not worked it out?

How do you manage to type with that level of inteligence, let along compicated things like drive?

 

Because of stupid people like YOU.

 

You dont realise how GOOD it is to be known as dumb....no one asks me anything,no one beleives what i type...so no one expects anything from me...so i can just go about DIYing MY own vehicles to my standards...although if judging by my persona on here i am shocked my cars actually run

 

...for a very intelligent bloke Chip you dont half look stupid arguing with a known idiot


..and that concludes todays Laural and Hardy show...tune in again real soon.

 

so did we establish any facts about spacers then

 

Replica i am sure Chip will explain as he likes talking to us idiots

 

another interesting read gone to shit

 

Thats one way Martin i was going to fit a 9" thick spacer to improve mine.
Surely Phil is on drugs .

 

God and i thought these spacers were to stop surge