xr3-keith

Hi all can anyone help

My brother just sold an XBOX 360 to some punk on ebay, he payed by paypal, came round and collected the Xbox the next day I get an email from Paypal saying that the money has been sent back,

So no money and no xbox now




Paypal say as he isnt a verified member theres nothing they can do.




So What should he do now

dave cos4x4

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you can put a complaint in to paypal, look in the right section about the complaints procedure.

Psycho Warren

iTrader: (5)

I don't get why Paypal would send the money back unless there has been a complaint case opened and you lost??

Been hearing a few dodgy storys about paypal recently.

EIL132

Did you check it had cleared in Paypal?

Shings

Sounds a bit of a fucker that.

Gotta say I will never trust somet like that to recieve money on anything over about 60 quid.

Cash only..

Shame

Alvyn

iTrader: (1)

Paypal was bought out by Ebay I believe m8 run by dodgy people alright taking your money when things go right and DO fuck all when there's a problem except turn the backs!

that's why there are so many scammers using both

escort700bhp

YET AGAIN THE PAYPAL STRIKES
I HAD ONE GUY PAY WITH PAYPAL , I SENT THE GOODS ,THEN A WEEK LATER SAME HAPPENS THEY REMOVE YOUR MONEY FROM YOUR ACCOUNT EVEN IF YOU TRY AND SEND IT TO YOUR BANK
STILL FIGHTING IT
IM GETTING NO WHERE AS THEY WONT GIVE OUT A CONTACT PHONE NO AND EVERY E MAIL SENT GOES TO A DIFFERENT PERSON

I THINK YOUVE HAD IT MATE !

CHECK THIS LINK BELOW WE ARE NOT ALONE

http://paypalsucks.com/

GTechR

I paid on paypal twice tonight, and both times I got a conformation of my address, never happend before...

Christian and Beccy

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For the second time in as many months, I have had a payment reversed by Paypal.

This time, the payment was made in December for an Ebay item, luckily under Ł20. I then sent the item and we exchanged feedback. Job done. No.

Paypal suddenly decided 1 MONTH LATER to carry out a 'Chargeback'. They claim that the buyer has claimed the money back from his Credit Card. Anyway, I contacted the buyer and he said that when he checked his Credit Card statement Paypal had charged him twice, so he claimed one back. They then took it back from me, even though the 'proper' payment had actually still been made.

The last time it happened th buyer had no idea and was totally happy with the transaction. He even offered to pay the money again so that I wasn't short.

Paypal are scamming bastards who just 'try it on' with as many people as possible to see if they can get away with it. I disputed the last one and won. You should see the email response they got this time. I am still awaiting my reply, but I will call them tomorrow and sort it out.

I still use them, I just wish there was another easy, reliable option for Ebay payments.

escort700bhp, there is a number on their site. The one I will call is 08707 307191, but be prepared its an Indian call centre. I treat them with the comtempt they reserve for scamming me in the first place.

BillyCabrio

iTrader: (1)

Sorry to hear that Keith , hope ya get it sorted pal

EIL132

Paypal can take days to verify the sale dependant on type of payment. It'll come up as pending

cossiecrew

get his address from ebay and go round and give the cunt a thrashing

escort700bhp

Christian and Beccy
cheers for that number im out about Ł760

AKRS1

i got jacked by paypal sold a sat nav to some fooker on ebay for Ł220 the guy paid by paypal and i responded quickly by withdrawing the money only to find that paypal then done a chargeback but it was to late as i already withdrew the money but they left my account in a minus figure but i dont care now as i stopped using the account now.

Psycho Warren

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I find it absurd that they claim it takes upto 7 working days to withdraw money.

FFS I can write a cheque send it specail delivery and still get the money before then!!

m-dtech

i work in fraud for mastercard. if you have any fraud related querys then drop me a pm/email.

m

Zetec Andy

looks like hes conned you mate, why pay via paypal then come round and collect it, seems stupid to me.

If he had the cash he should have payed on collection!

philc

he can pay vias c/c on paypal so thats probably why he done it that way mr manc

Zetec Andy

dunno to be honest pal, i never use ebay or paypal for the reason above, you never know who your dealing with, i prefer to buy something and pay cash on collection, if its to far away to collect then just walk away

Ad4m RST

paypal very nearly got me....i sold my old phone on ebay (P900 sonyericsson) to a pakistani geeza. Transaction all went through then he started saying he never recieved the item after he had CALLED me to ask questions about how it worked and decided it was too complicated

he reported me to paypal who sided with him even though i had a receipt for the parcel and royal mail had confirmed its delivery. Once i got wise to him i got straight on the phone and made sufficient threats so as he didn't bother trying his pathetic scam anymore, he lived in leicester which would of been a nice ass kickin road trip for me. I could of easily been another victim had he not called me that time...backfired on the sneaky pratt

tip: never use paypal, bank transfers and cheques are just as good. if not more inconvenient as ebay scam you into using paypal at every oppurtunity

RSBen

Click on "Advanced Search" in ebay
On the left hand side under Members click "Find Contact Information"
Enter his user ID and the item number.
You will be sent an email with his address and phone number on that he has registered with ebay.
Pay him a visit with some mates

xr3-keith

Thanks all will update you all soon if anything happens

AndyP

Good luck fella, I was gonna join e-bay this week

Hope your bro gets his cash back

MARCOSWORTH

iTrader: (24)

Thanks for the info,i never knew this.

Gutted for ya mate

SS1

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Christian and Beccy

ive was on the phone for 25 mins on hold ..then disconected

ebay used to be good source for car parts and alike now its scam CITY

its a pity because the real true sellers are dragged into it to

i bought a dell screen for Ł500 ish before xmas ..on trust

sale was fine but know even after xmas only 1 month

so many BARE FACED BLAGGERS ON THERE NOW ..never again

its a pity because its a good site but paypal sucks because they own it

so it feeds there own problems ..and "money talks "

It's Czech Mate

I've used NOCHEX.com for about 3 years and it seems far better than Paypal

Everyone moaned at me when I put up a post before christmas about an aggrieved ebay buyer who i wouldnt send goods too untill his pp payment had cleared into my BANK account. I'm glad I waited now

SimonT

To be honest mate your pretty much shafted.

It sounds like the person who got your xbox has signed up to paypal with dodgy info.

Now they have your xbox it will be sold for cash.

Its happend to me once before. You won't get your cash back.

The only thing you can do is when people pay by paypal dont release the goods for 14 days after. If people moan tell them to fuck off as your covering your own back.

Unfortunatly PayPal benefits crim's more than Joe Everyman.

richm

Even when it's cleared into your bank, Paypal can still apply a chargeback if they see fit it seems

And don't make the automatic assumption it is the buyer who instigated it deliberately and go round to give him a kicking, there's plenty of cases where paypal have fooked up. However if the buyer isn't a verified member then that may be a reason to be suspicious..

DanRSturbo

To be honest, it's as good as gone m8. You can request a chargeback if you do not receive the goods that you have paid for. Can you prove that this guy actually came round to your house and collected it. Did you get him to sign for anything ? How did you know it was the buyer ?

If you can't do any of the above, then there's not much paypal can do. He's lodged a complaint that he never got the goods, paypal refund the money and look into it. If they are happy he has a case, you've shit right out.

dojj

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i think i have discovered wehre my Ł160 has gone then
i've been looking for it for about a year now, it went into my paypal account, then it wasn't there when i transfered it into my account
the guy who paid me said he paid me and a phone call to paypal told me it had been transfered out of my paypal account

let me see if i can find the number because i had 2 i could call, the first one put me through to some buttnugget in america who couldn't even undestand that i wanted to make a complaint
the second number got me the info i needed even though they couldn't help me do anything baout themissing money

expletives on the first, calming words on the second

dojj

iTrader: (3)

here you go, the reply i recived

Dear ***********,

Thank you for contacting PayPal in regard a transaction.

For security reasons, we are unable to answer all enquiries that we
receive via email. In those circumstances, and in order to maintain the
integrity of an account, we need to ascertain that we are speaking
directly to the account holder. If you have an issue of immediate
concern please call our Customer Service Agents on 08707 307 191.

For future reference, this information is also located in the Help
Centre, and is easily accessible by following these steps:

1. Click https://www.paypal.co.uk/help
2. Go to 'Contact Us' under Categories on Help Center page
3. Select Help by Phone

Never disclose any financial information or passwords in an email.

Copyright Š 1999-2004 PayPal. All rights reserved. PayPal (Europe) Ltd.
is regulated by the Financial Services Authority in the United Kingdom
as an electronic money institution. PayPal FSA Register Number: 226056

Please let me know if you need further assistance.

Sincerely,
Louise
PayPal Resolution Services
PayPal, an eBay Company


unfortunatly it seems that it's the same number for the indian call centre
i'll see if i can find the other number

Rick

My account is 500 neagative, as some twat had a laptop off me. I transfered the money into the bank account, so luckily i got it. But, paypal are threatening me, unless i top account up. Bollocks to them, i have proof laptop was delivered!

ronf42

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will any of these paypal phone numbers work to save you goig through the indian call centre, I know how frustrating these can be sometimes


http://www.saynoto0870.com/companysearch.php

richm

Paypal 0870 7307191 +353 14369001 UK accounts dealt with by Dublin office

Paypal 0870 7307191 +1 402 9357733 USA access to Customer Services; Reduce cost using 1899 @ ˝p/min (3p connect) or similar

Paypal 0870 7307191 +1 402 9352050 US Office; Fax: +1 402 5375731

ronf42

iTrader: (2)

cheers Rich , didnt realise I boobed on the link

WISBEY

i bought a load of tools of ebay and payed via paypal. they never turned up, put my claim in etc and after a month got a partial refund, tools and delivery were 120. they gave me back 80 so i was 40 short on something i never had, got in contact with the guy i bought them off and asked for the other 40, he got ratty as it turns out paypal took the full amount off him they have kept 40 for themselves,
if im selling anything now via ebay if it is more then 100 ill only accept cheques or cash as they are the safewest way and you dont get charged for using them

CharlieSaff

Sorry but that is just


Luckily I only really buy stuff on ebay, and don't sell stuff

xr3-keith

Well been round to the address which he has set up on paypal, guess what, that number dont exits in that road

You would have thought that paypal would at least check that the address was a real one, so I guess thats it for now,

Poor borther no xbox and no money,

Dont think I will use paypal much now

DUDE_SWEET_FRST

when you recieve a payment in paypal, MAKE SURE IT SAYS ELIGABLE then if anything happens, you can get your money back.

if its not eligable, then your pretty much fooked if something goes wrong.

ALWAYS wait for a payment to clear if its not eligable, its just like a cheque. and remember paypal are american, so it taks a while as there not the brightest

as for your xbox mate, youve been royally ass fucked. get his address and go get it back