Parking down T-roads, whats the law?
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Parking down T-roads, whats the law?
Hiya. Close to my house, there is a small sul-de-sac that has no yellow lines, or parking restrictions. Now, My girlfriend parks down that road when she visits me as i live on a main road and there isnt enough space for her to park on the drive. its about a 1 minute walk from my house. tonight, when she left, someone had written a snotty note and put it under the windscreen wiper of her car saying "please do not park here again, as you are causing an obstruction to our driveways, etc" even though the car is away from the driveways. The road itself is about 2 and a bit car widths and she parks next to the kerb, leaving a car width and a bit (lorry could get through there). Do they have any right to stop her from parking there as its a public road??? i think they are just being cocks as they think they own the road it being a cul-de-sac.....
Here is a diagram of how it looks.
Really annoys me TBH.
Cheers
Mike.
Here is a diagram of how it looks.
Really annoys me TBH.
Cheers
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if the parking causes a real obstruction the police CAN issue a fine for her parking there
its rare as fuck though and most cant be arsed as they gotta draw pictures ect and its just such a minor offence they never bother
if it does cause a obstruction though and makes it hard for them to park in there drives then you SHOULD park else where that IS suitable
just cause theres no yellow line dont mean that comon sence should not be used, yellow lines are drawn up when theres too many stupid people who choose to park and cause a obstruction as theres no risk of a ticket
this is not hear say advice, this is advice froma person who trained traffic wardens and in mews's ect round london thats how they delt with the proper parking problems
its rare as fuck though and most cant be arsed as they gotta draw pictures ect and its just such a minor offence they never bother
if it does cause a obstruction though and makes it hard for them to park in there drives then you SHOULD park else where that IS suitable
just cause theres no yellow line dont mean that comon sence should not be used, yellow lines are drawn up when theres too many stupid people who choose to park and cause a obstruction as theres no risk of a ticket
this is not hear say advice, this is advice froma person who trained traffic wardens and in mews's ect round london thats how they delt with the proper parking problems
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Regardless of the law, if she carries on parking there when she knows she's pissing someone off, don't be suprised when someone runs a key down the side of her car
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tell her to post a letter to house no 2 telling them to grow up and learn how to drive...
sorry but i had this the other day ..
just because the person driving is a shit driver it dont mean that they can bully you into doing what they want ! ! ! !
had a long drawn out row which culminated in the police being called and them getting told to calm down ..
keep the letter so that if any damage occurs then you have some evidence and the police can go and visit the owners of all 3 houses ...
sorry but i had this the other day ..
just because the person driving is a shit driver it dont mean that they can bully you into doing what they want ! ! ! !
had a long drawn out row which culminated in the police being called and them getting told to calm down ..
keep the letter so that if any damage occurs then you have some evidence and the police can go and visit the owners of all 3 houses ...
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I have a similar situation, my road is quite narrow, ie just about dustbin lorry width when cars are parked both sides. It is on a steep hill so alot of people find it difficult to park square, close enough to the curb, close enough to the car behind etc, I have a drive, nobody else does, when they are parked either side of the drive, and across the road opposite the drive etc, sometimes it can be near impossible to get in/out...
I have yet to put a note on anybodies car, I just manouver and manouver and Ive been doing it for 10 years..
Though TBH I HAVE considered getting onto the council to get them to put some of those courtesy white lines across the drive, to stop people parking so tight to/nearly across the drop curb
IMO the biggest problem they have I BET is because they DRIVE into their entrances rather than REVERSE...
I ALWAYS reverse and when I drive along busy roads, and people are trying to REVERSE OUT of thier drive it pisses me off and I dont stop... they should reverse in and it would be 10 times easier to get out....
In your instance Personally I would suggest knocking on their door telling them politely they cant stop you from parking there, BUT you appreciate their situation How can your G/F make it easier for them ... BUT the car is going to be parked there either way ROFL
I have yet to put a note on anybodies car, I just manouver and manouver and Ive been doing it for 10 years..
Though TBH I HAVE considered getting onto the council to get them to put some of those courtesy white lines across the drive, to stop people parking so tight to/nearly across the drop curb
IMO the biggest problem they have I BET is because they DRIVE into their entrances rather than REVERSE...
I ALWAYS reverse and when I drive along busy roads, and people are trying to REVERSE OUT of thier drive it pisses me off and I dont stop... they should reverse in and it would be 10 times easier to get out....
In your instance Personally I would suggest knocking on their door telling them politely they cant stop you from parking there, BUT you appreciate their situation How can your G/F make it easier for them ... BUT the car is going to be parked there either way ROFL
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ok, first of all, we are talking about a tiny Seat Arosa. Hardly a big car. Secondly, i could EASILY back my cosworth out of their drives, and onto the road next to kelly's car, so its just them bieng VERY petty about it as they have a bit of money with nice cars. if i honestly thought her car was in a silly place, i would suggest to her to move it a bit. but its not, so i wont. I know what the people are like who live down the road, so sod them
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as said you might easily be able to reverse outbut they rob cant drive.. tell you what droop them a Christmas card through the letter box, from "the girl who parks her car across the road "
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Originally Posted by boXXer
ok, first of all, we are talking about a tiny Seat Arosa. Hardly a big car. Secondly, i could EASILY back my cosworth out of their drives, and onto the road next to kelly's car, so its just them bieng VERY petty about it as they have a bit of money with nice cars. if i honestly thought her car was in a silly place, i would suggest to her to move it a bit. but its not, so i wont. I know what the people are like who live down the road, so sod them
And as has already been said feel free to carry on as no law etc, BUT it can be a bitch getting a car resprayed or new tyres and windows etc
If as Damo says you go and talk to the people sensibly you may be able to come to a happy mutuall agreement, like the probabley only one person you pissing off agreeing u park a certain side of their drive so they can swing in and out easier, maybe they have a disabled relative that needs access etc,
BUT if talks do fail, by talking to them you would hopefully find out which one/ones have the problem, which then would help out in situation one (dameged car)
Whenever my sis goes to visit my parents she has stand up rows wiv the geezer and his son who live directly opposite my parents because they dare to park their car outside my parents house the fact they still live in the road and she dont, she seems to think that when she comes VISITING she has some right to instantly park there , bare in mind her visits are 3-4 times a week, gets to stages, that she sits and watches till a space clears and she'll dive out and move her car there and then if she wants to go out she will use my dads car so she dont have to move hers to keep HER spot , oh and also if me/parents know she comming we are meant to grab the spot so when she comes at least one of us has it or can let her have it
Neighbourhood parking, gotta be the biggest cause of bad feelings to your neighbours, the people you have to live around for X years, and maybe even the people that you would like to think that would help protect you your family and possesions (house car) if your are not there, let alone maybe go round to and have a laugh and socialise with sometimes , gotta add my neighbours are brilliant and have never had probs with car parking, but if I realise I AM being a bit selfish try to remedy ot myself before it goes that far
Steve
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PMSL, like that idea. Might have to do that. Problem is i dunno which house left the bit of paper on the car. But when i put my reply, i put my house number incase they fancy a nice little chat.
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Originally Posted by The Rapid 1
Originally Posted by boXXer
ok, first of all, we are talking about a tiny Seat Arosa. Hardly a big car. Secondly, i could EASILY back my cosworth out of their drives, and onto the road next to kelly's car, so its just them bieng VERY petty about it as they have a bit of money with nice cars. if i honestly thought her car was in a silly place, i would suggest to her to move it a bit. but its not, so i wont. I know what the people are like who live down the road, so sod them
And as has already been said feel free to carry on as no law etc, BUT it can be a bitch getting a car resprayed or new tyres and windows etc
If as Damo says you go and talk to the people sensibly you may be able to come to a happy mutuall agreement, like the probabley only one person you pissing off agreeing u park a certain side of their drive so they can swing in and out easier, maybe they have a disabled relative that needs access etc,
BUT if talks do fail, by talking to them you would hopefully find out which one/ones have the problem, which then would help out in situation one (dameged car)
Whenever my sis goes to visit my parents she has stand up rows wiv the geezer and his son who live directly opposite my parents because they dare to park their car outside my parents house the fact they still live in the road and she dont, she seems to think that when she comes VISITING she has some right to instantly park there , bare in mind her visits are 3-4 times a week, gets to stages, that she sits and watches till a space clears and she'll dive out and move her car there and then if she wants to go out she will use my dads car so she dont have to move hers to keep HER spot , oh and also if me/parents know she comming we are meant to grab the spot so when she comes at least one of us has it or can let her have it
Neighbourhood parking, gotta be the biggest cause of bad feelings to your neighbours, the people you have to live around for X years, and maybe even the people that you would like to think that would help protect you your family and possesions (house car) if your are not there, let alone maybe go round to and have a laugh and socialise with sometimes , gotta add my neighbours are brilliant and have never had probs with car parking, but if I realise I AM being a bit selfish try to remedy ot myself before it goes that far
Steve
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i always have people parking outside my house ( not across the actual drive though )what pisses me off is that they only have to move 2ft over towards my neighbours house as it dont affect him and then i can park my other car across the drive without me going across my other neighbours drive ( which i never do , and land up parking 50ft away )
i never let my family or friends park outside any of my neighbours house's/or places i know a certain car likes to park.
so i just make a note of who has parked outside mine and made it for me to park somewhere else and then i just land up parking right across there drives all night
i never let my family or friends park outside any of my neighbours house's/or places i know a certain car likes to park.
so i just make a note of who has parked outside mine and made it for me to park somewhere else and then i just land up parking right across there drives all night
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Mike - legally as long as the car isn't causing an obstruction, isn't blocking a driveway, is taxed, insured and MOT'd and isn't parked illegally there's fuck all they can do.
Mind you, dad can fix up any damage......... Know what you mean though. The houses round there are a few bob so they're the types to get snotty about it.
Mind you, dad can fix up any damage......... Know what you mean though. The houses round there are a few bob so they're the types to get snotty about it.
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Originally Posted by The Rapid 1
Nice attitude
And as has already been said feel free to carry on as no law etc, BUT it can be a bitch getting a car resprayed or new tyres and windows etc
If as Damo says you go and talk to the people sensibly you may be able to come to a happy mutuall agreement, like the probabley only one person you pissing off agreeing u park a certain side of their drive so they can swing in and out easier, maybe they have a disabled relative that needs access etc,
BUT if talks do fail, by talking to them you would hopefully find out which one/ones have the problem, which then would help out in situation one (dameged car)
Whenever my sis goes to visit my parents she has stand up rows wiv the geezer and his son who live directly opposite my parents because they dare to park their car outside my parents house the fact they still live in the road and she dont, she seems to think that when she comes VISITING she has some right to instantly park there , bare in mind her visits are 3-4 times a week, gets to stages, that she sits and watches till a space clears and she'll dive out and move her car there and then if she wants to go out she will use my dads car so she dont have to move hers to keep HER spot , oh and also if me/parents know she comming we are meant to grab the spot so when she comes at least one of us has it or can let her have it
Neighbourhood parking, gotta be the biggest cause of bad feelings to your neighbours, the people you have to live around for X years, and maybe even the people that you would like to think that would help protect you your family and possesions (house car) if your are not there, let alone maybe go round to and have a laugh and socialise with sometimes , gotta add my neighbours are brilliant and have never had probs with car parking, but if I realise I AM being a bit selfish try to remedy ot myself before it goes that far
Steve
And as has already been said feel free to carry on as no law etc, BUT it can be a bitch getting a car resprayed or new tyres and windows etc
If as Damo says you go and talk to the people sensibly you may be able to come to a happy mutuall agreement, like the probabley only one person you pissing off agreeing u park a certain side of their drive so they can swing in and out easier, maybe they have a disabled relative that needs access etc,
BUT if talks do fail, by talking to them you would hopefully find out which one/ones have the problem, which then would help out in situation one (dameged car)
Whenever my sis goes to visit my parents she has stand up rows wiv the geezer and his son who live directly opposite my parents because they dare to park their car outside my parents house the fact they still live in the road and she dont, she seems to think that when she comes VISITING she has some right to instantly park there , bare in mind her visits are 3-4 times a week, gets to stages, that she sits and watches till a space clears and she'll dive out and move her car there and then if she wants to go out she will use my dads car so she dont have to move hers to keep HER spot , oh and also if me/parents know she comming we are meant to grab the spot so when she comes at least one of us has it or can let her have it
Neighbourhood parking, gotta be the biggest cause of bad feelings to your neighbours, the people you have to live around for X years, and maybe even the people that you would like to think that would help protect you your family and possesions (house car) if your are not there, let alone maybe go round to and have a laugh and socialise with sometimes , gotta add my neighbours are brilliant and have never had probs with car parking, but if I realise I AM being a bit selfish try to remedy ot myself before it goes that far
Steve
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Mike - legally as long as the car isn't causing an obstruction, isn't blocking a driveway, is taxed, insured and MOT'd and isn't parked illegally there's fuck all they can do.
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ok, but as the law stands, they dont own the bit of road outside the house, so she is LEGALLY entitle to park there. As mr s1 has said, its all safe and the cars legal.
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Originally Posted by CAPTAIN POPEYE
i always have people parking outside my house ( not across the actual drive though )what pisses me off is that they only have to move 2ft over towards my neighbours house as it dont affect him and then i can park my other car across the drive without me going across my other neighbours drive ( which i never do , and land up parking 50ft away )
i never let my family or friends park outside any of my neighbours house's/or places i know a certain car likes to park.
so i just make a note of who has parked outside mine and made it for me to park somewhere else and then i just land up parking right across there drives all night
i never let my family or friends park outside any of my neighbours house's/or places i know a certain car likes to park.
so i just make a note of who has parked outside mine and made it for me to park somewhere else and then i just land up parking right across there drives all night
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why though? she isnt in the way AT ALL. and she cant really park up by the yellow line because there are already people parked there. And the next nearest road is too far away. So she stays put until further notice!
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Well say you parked in the driveway for the first house, facing your house.
How would you reverse out with her car there? Her Car IS causing obstruction. As you've said the raod is very narrow.
If you reveresed into your driveway of the 1st house. Her car prevents getting a good swing on it.
The simple answer is would you complain if the situations were reversed. Would you get sick of somebody parking in your road, blocking it up, making it awkward for RESIDENTS to get in and out. Somebody who didn't even live in your road.
IMO Pick the battles you can win without dire consequences.
How would you reverse out with her car there? Her Car IS causing obstruction. As you've said the raod is very narrow.
If you reveresed into your driveway of the 1st house. Her car prevents getting a good swing on it.
The simple answer is would you complain if the situations were reversed. Would you get sick of somebody parking in your road, blocking it up, making it awkward for RESIDENTS to get in and out. Somebody who didn't even live in your road.
IMO Pick the battles you can win without dire consequences.
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Originally Posted by Rich_w
Well say you parked in the driveway for the first house, facing your house.
How would you reverse out with her car there? Her Car IS causing obstruction. As you've said the raod is very narrow.
If you reveresed into your driveway of the 1st house. Her car prevents getting a good swing on it.
The simple answer is would you complain if the situations were reversed. Would you get sick of somebody parking in your road, blocking it up, making it awkward for RESIDENTS to get in and out. Somebody who didn't even live in your road.
IMO Pick the battles you can win without dire consequences.
How would you reverse out with her car there? Her Car IS causing obstruction. As you've said the raod is very narrow.
If you reveresed into your driveway of the 1st house. Her car prevents getting a good swing on it.
The simple answer is would you complain if the situations were reversed. Would you get sick of somebody parking in your road, blocking it up, making it awkward for RESIDENTS to get in and out. Somebody who didn't even live in your road.
IMO Pick the battles you can win without dire consequences.
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their is a road exactly where the cal-de-sac writing is, so you cant really park near the yellow lines either as its an obstruction
the driveways are quite far apart anyway, there is tones of room to reverse and all that, its not as small as the picture shows
I live on a private road, and people park down our road, and we wouldn't leave a note on someones car, we would go and speak to the person about it, long as it wasnt in the way, and wasnt their for months on end we are fine with it, suppose everyone is different
the driveways are quite far apart anyway, there is tones of room to reverse and all that, its not as small as the picture shows
I live on a private road, and people park down our road, and we wouldn't leave a note on someones car, we would go and speak to the person about it, long as it wasnt in the way, and wasnt their for months on end we are fine with it, suppose everyone is different
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Legally I dont know but out of courtesy I would be asking Kelly to be parking nearer the yellow line. We have had long standing arguements with our former neighbours in the UK with their parking so I can appreciate where they are coming from.
Ours on a good day would park right to the entrance of our drive either side, opposite the drive and round the bend in the road forcing any road traffic to be on the wrong side of the road and make it near impossible for us to see coming out of our drive without getting out of the car to look.
If they wanted to put anything bigger into their drives, from your diagram they would struggle. E.g a 4x4 or a trailer. If they dont know who she is visiting, they cant ask her to move it.
Inclined to agree with the Rapid 1 though mate on this.
Ours on a good day would park right to the entrance of our drive either side, opposite the drive and round the bend in the road forcing any road traffic to be on the wrong side of the road and make it near impossible for us to see coming out of our drive without getting out of the car to look.
If they wanted to put anything bigger into their drives, from your diagram they would struggle. E.g a 4x4 or a trailer. If they dont know who she is visiting, they cant ask her to move it.
Inclined to agree with the Rapid 1 though mate on this.
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i dunno how bad your driving is rich w, but the turning circle you have drawn is HOOOOOGE for a car! There is MORE than enough room to back a car out of the drive, and down the side of kellys. This is why im saying its NOT an obstruction. How do you back into a parking space at tesco's? theres a LOT more room down this road than a bloody parking space!
P.S: This is no "battle" as an arguement hasnt started with anyone, and like i say, its 3 times a week max, for 3 hours after 7pm. not EVERYDAY. This thread could go on forever, but without seeing the road, i cant explain it to you. I have common sense (and so does Kelly), and if i/we thought it was in the way, or in a dangerous place i would get her to park somewhere else. But like i say, YOU dont know the people who live down the road, and trust me, they just want her to park somewhere else for the fact its outside their house.
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P.S: This is no "battle" as an arguement hasnt started with anyone, and like i say, its 3 times a week max, for 3 hours after 7pm. not EVERYDAY. This thread could go on forever, but without seeing the road, i cant explain it to you. I have common sense (and so does Kelly), and if i/we thought it was in the way, or in a dangerous place i would get her to park somewhere else. But like i say, YOU dont know the people who live down the road, and trust me, they just want her to park somewhere else for the fact its outside their house.
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Originally Posted by Rich_w
The simple answer is would you complain if the situations were reversed. Would you get sick of somebody parking in your road, blocking it up, making it awkward for RESIDENTS to get in and out. Somebody who didn't even live in your road.
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