What would a standard focus 1.6 do the 1/4 mile in ?
16-12-2005, 09:33 PM
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What would a standard focus 1.6 do the 1/4 mile in ?
An RS does it in 14.5 seconds so i reckon my 1.6 would do it in about 20 
What do you think ?
What do you think ?
16-12-2005, 10:35 PM
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A 100ps (I think 
) 1.6 can do them in 17 dead! Was done at Santa pod, with video evidence!
I was amazed at the time, as 17 dead is a good 1.8 escort time!!
Under 17.5 is good going
) 1.6 can do them in 17 dead! Was done at Santa pod, with video evidence!I was amazed at the time, as 17 dead is a good 1.8 escort time!!
Under 17.5 is good going
16-12-2005, 11:28 PM
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FPMSL @ 17 sec dead for a 100bhp 1.6 
A ST170 will only manage a 16- 16.5 sec and has 70bhp gain, a higher rev limit and alot more torque than a 1.6. Wake up and smell the coffee pal, infact theres a 400+ bhp RST forsale on Ebay, if you think a 1.6 does a 17 sec 1/4 then you'll believe that RST is 400bhp and a bargain
A ST170 will only manage a 16- 16.5 sec and has 70bhp gain, a higher rev limit and alot more torque than a 1.6. Wake up and smell the coffee pal, infact theres a 400+ bhp RST forsale on Ebay, if you think a 1.6 does a 17 sec 1/4 then you'll believe that RST is 400bhp and a bargain
16-12-2005, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
FPMSL @ 17 sec dead for a 100bhp 1.6
A ST170 will only manage a 16- 16.5 sec and has 70bhp gain, a higher rev limit and alot more torque than a 1.6. Wake up and smell the coffee pal, infact theres a 400+ bhp RST forsale on Ebay, if you think a 1.6 does a 17 sec 1/4 then you'll believe that RST is 400bhp and a bargain
A ST170 will only manage a 16- 16.5 sec and has 70bhp gain, a higher rev limit and alot more torque than a 1.6. Wake up and smell the coffee pal, infact theres a 400+ bhp RST forsale on Ebay, if you think a 1.6 does a 17 sec 1/4 then you'll believe that RST is 400bhp and a bargain
16-12-2005, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
FPMSL @ 17 sec dead for a 100bhp 1.6
A ST170 will only manage a 16- 16.5 sec and has 70bhp gain, a higher rev limit and alot more torque than a 1.6. Wake up and smell the coffee pal, infact theres a 400+ bhp RST forsale on Ebay, if you think a 1.6 does a 17 sec 1/4 then you'll believe that RST is 400bhp and a bargain
A ST170 will only manage a 16- 16.5 sec and has 70bhp gain, a higher rev limit and alot more torque than a 1.6. Wake up and smell the coffee pal, infact theres a 400+ bhp RST forsale on Ebay, if you think a 1.6 does a 17 sec 1/4 then you'll believe that RST is 400bhp and a bargain
We had a massive argument on Escort Evolution about this.. but it is true. There is video proof.
Also, please remember 1/4mile times are heavily down to the driver. Many ST170 times are in the 16s, but there are some in the 15s. Obviously the better drivers.
My 2.0L escort (135bhp) did a 15.73 @ Santa Pod. As a 1.6, it did a 17.90
Don't treat me like an idiot - I know that "400bhp" RST is B/S.
My mate has the video, I could probably get the link if u really wanted me to, but how about you accept the fact i'm not lying??
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16-12-2005, 11:49 PM
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Spot on fella! It's not my car, I'm not trying to sell it, so why would I lie?!
Awesome time though
Just to add, it was standard bar some massive tailpipe.
Awesome time though
Just to add, it was standard bar some massive tailpipe.
17-12-2005, 12:37 AM
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LOL it is my 1.6 focus in question.
http://www.escortevolution.co.uk/for...howtopic=55452
I did it in 17sec dead I did it @ the start of this year @ santa pod with the car being completley standard engine wise.
Its a bit late but I should have the report sheet that I got from the day and I could detail the diffrent stages of the run if anyone was interested.
Shaun
http://www.escortevolution.co.uk/for...howtopic=55452
I did it in 17sec dead I did it @ the start of this year @ santa pod with the car being completley standard engine wise.
Its a bit late but I should have the report sheet that I got from the day and I could detail the diffrent stages of the run if anyone was interested.
Shaun
17-12-2005, 12:48 AM
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FPMSL, yeah ok im wrong. With 50+ runs over the 4 yrs i been doing RWYB's and the countless others i have attended supporting other RS Owners i know nothing about what it takes to run a good 1/4 and what sort of power makes what sort of times @ Santa Pod 
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
FPMSL, yeah ok im wrong. With 50+ runs over the 4 yrs i been doing RWYB's and the countless others i have attended supporting other RS Owners i know nothing about what it takes to run a good 1/4 and what sort of power makes what sort of times @ Santa Pod
17-12-2005, 12:50 AM
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The orginal post but the vids no longer are hosted Might be able to find it 2morow.
http://www.escortevolution.co.uk/for...40251&hl=Santa
http://www.escortevolution.co.uk/for...40251&hl=Santa
17-12-2005, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
FPMSL, yeah ok im wrong. With 50+ runs over the 4 yrs i been doing RWYB's and the countless others i have attended supporting other RS Owners i know nothing about what it takes to run a good 1/4 and what sort of power makes what sort of times @ Santa Pod
17-12-2005, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by rsnissan
Originally Posted by AndyRST
FPMSL, yeah ok im wrong. With 50+ runs over the 4 yrs i been doing RWYB's and the countless others i have attended supporting other RS Owners i know nothing about what it takes to run a good 1/4 and what sort of power makes what sort of times @ Santa Pod
BTW Ben yeah i would estimate that a std 1.6 focus would complete the 1/4 in around 18-19 secs. Also i believe the ST170 has steel rods and because of that a higher rev limit of 7200 rpm (or 7400 rpm with a bluefin) than other Focus's inc the RS
17-12-2005, 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Kapritwin1
Originally Posted by AndyRST
FPMSL, yeah ok im wrong. With 50+ runs over the 4 yrs i been doing RWYB's and the countless others i have attended supporting other RS Owners i know nothing about what it takes to run a good 1/4 and what sort of power makes what sort of times @ Santa Pod
Just out of interest how many other 17 sec runs have you done with this std 1.6 focus ?
17-12-2005, 01:14 AM
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My times Ive had for santa pod are
17.773 @78.25
17.336 @78.54
17.567 @79.36
17.404 @79.38
17.384 @79.49
17.340 @79.10
17.113 @80.08
&
17.093 @80.64 <-- This is what people class as a 17sec dead.
And as they say the proof is in the pudding
If you look @ the date it was at the start of the year. It had no mods not even a filter or the stupid large tail pipe it now has.
I got a 17.1 something @ a recent RWYB day but didnt get the slip as I only had one run and it was stupid busy as it was after a big jap fest type thing.
17.773 @78.25
17.336 @78.54
17.567 @79.36
17.404 @79.38
17.384 @79.49
17.340 @79.10
17.113 @80.08
&
17.093 @80.64 <-- This is what people class as a 17sec dead.
And as they say the proof is in the pudding
If you look @ the date it was at the start of the year. It had no mods not even a filter or the stupid large tail pipe it now has.
I got a 17.1 something @ a recent RWYB day but didnt get the slip as I only had one run and it was stupid busy as it was after a big jap fest type thing.
17-12-2005, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
Well im looking for a "special" 1.6 std focus now then
Im not a huge santa pod fan only went up as my mate had a MR2 and he wanted to try it out.
Anyway im getting rid of it as I know its not a fast car and ive never said it was and im not gonna get it to go any faster so im selling up for a ERST or simialr.
17-12-2005, 01:03 PM
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(as the ST170 has close ratio 6 spd box)[/quote]
i was under the impression that the st170 didnt have a close ration box at all, when i went in one i felt the gears were far to streched out and that the car could be alot quicker with better ratios
fair play on the 17 sec pass, only 3 secs slower than alot of rs turbos with twice the power, TOP RESULT
i was under the impression that the st170 didnt have a close ration box at all, when i went in one i felt the gears were far to streched out and that the car could be alot quicker with better ratios
fair play on the 17 sec pass, only 3 secs slower than alot of rs turbos with twice the power, TOP RESULT
17-12-2005, 01:37 PM
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17 sec pass, only 3 secs slower than alot of rs turbos with twice the power
17-12-2005, 02:33 PM
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not being funny but why r u arguing over a few seconds and why in the first place would u wanna try 1/4 mile run's in a standard 1.6 car 
Time of a standard car is just as important as a modded car.
I did over 80 runs with my "Standard car".
17-12-2005, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by croppy
not being funny but why r u arguing over a few seconds and why in the first place would u wanna try 1/4 mile run's in a standard 1.6 car
I agree with the comment that 3secs is a lifetime on a 1/4mile because the other car is going so much faster and you cant do anything about it, thats why its for sale as its to slow, lol.
We wernt arguing just having a nice conversation about it. lol
17-12-2005, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by croppy
not being funny but why r u arguing over a few seconds and why in the first place would u wanna try 1/4 mile run's in a standard 1.6 car
Also, it's a good base to see how much quicker cars with modded engines are over standard.
Have you ever done one?
17-12-2005, 09:07 PM
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just goes to show, people try to shoot you down, and still continue when you have proven them wrong
i think you will find the 1.6 engine is better designed in almost everyway possible than the 1.8/2.0 focus's. It's an all alloy block so is going to be lighter than the others & the ST 6 speed is apprently very short so you're always changing gear=not good for the old 1/4 mile times.
Parents used to have one, can't remeber whether it was 1.4 or 1.6 but it had enough poke in it, more than the 1.8 duratec they have now anyways.
17-12-2005, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by James
i think you will find the 1.6 engine is better designed in almost everyway possible than the 1.8/2.0 focus's. It's an all alloy block so is going to be lighter than the others & the ST 6 speed is apprently very short so you're always changing gear=not good for the old 1/4 mile times.
Im gonna tell Ford that i want a 1.6 fitted in my focus cos its a better design than my 2.0l 16V ST170 engine how is a 6 speed box with close ratios worse for 1/4? If it improves the acceleration in 2nd, 4rd, 4th and 5th how can it be bad for 1/4 mile times ?
17-12-2005, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
Originally Posted by James
i think you will find the 1.6 engine is better designed in almost everyway possible than the 1.8/2.0 focus's. It's an all alloy block so is going to be lighter than the others & the ST 6 speed is apprently very short so you're always changing gear=not good for the old 1/4 mile times.
how is a 6 speed box with close ratios worse for 1/4? If it improves the acceleration in 2nd, 4rd, 4th and 5th how can it be bad for 1/4 mile times ?
with a 6sp box i`d imagine you`d loose time due to gearchanges??!!! fords figures may be a little optimistic IMO
the small engines focus/fiestas are fookin revvy little cnuts!
propper zetec engined foci` seem slugish in comparison, hence why the polices use yamaha powered foci arround the north east.
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Originally Posted by Ex-Finesse
Have you ever done one?
18-12-2005, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by James
i think you will find the 1.6 engine is better designed in almost everyway possible than the 1.8/2.0 focus's. It's an all alloy block so is going to be lighter than the others & the ST 6 speed is apprently very short so you're always changing gear=not good for the old 1/4 mile times.
how is a 6 speed box with close ratios worse for 1/4? If it improves the acceleration in 2nd, 4rd, 4th and 5th how can it be bad for 1/4 mile times ?
with a 6sp box i`d imagine you`d loose time due to gearchanges??!!! fords figures may be a little optimistic IMO
the small engines focus/fiestas are fookin revvy little cnuts!
propper zetec engined foci` seem slugish in comparison, hence why the polices use yamaha powered foci arround the north east.