Anonymous

...very odd sensation...LOL.....the car feels slower as you no longer have that drop off then bang in with the power...i have experienced what a n/a cosworth would be like.

Fucking great fun though...on my Saff i only used it for scary old people and small children...not i only use it when i feel like travelling fast around some lanes

DaveEscos

took mine to get some petrol earlier and took it through the lanes..


flicked the switch.. 10 psi @ idle and let off


its VIOLENT! pure filthy violence!

Anonymous

Dave i get about 2psi at idle...got proper Mountune valve now and machined TB...i take it its the map and Paul Hills didnt go too aggressive due to std turbo.

DaveEscos

2psi?



you pussy! and im only running mine in!

ECU Monitor Enthusiast

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Take the dump valve off and you will get loads more boost on ALS

Anonymous

Dont run a dump valve.

I guess i only been given mild BUT it works a treat still..NO LAG between gear changes thats what i want isnt it?

...May sound a silly question but does upping the boost increase the idle boost pressure? I am only running 18psi at prensent!!!!Will be running 2 bar soon so will that bring idle up to 1 bar ish?

Anonymous

...another question was when warm it idles at 1600rpm so i put it back to 1100rpm it aint sposed to idle high to get the boost up is it?

DaveEscos

no and no..

its all to do with your ECU and throttle body

Im assuming you run issue 3 pectel ALS boards

Versus_Creations

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2psi @ idle

Anonymous

Dave dont know all i saw was MTC x 2 and the main chip.

Jano you should know seeing as you are Pauls customer...so maybe help instead of mocking

GaryEvo

i wish i could have positive pressure,

thats the downside to servo brakes!!!

Versus_Creations

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Im just laughing at the 2psi mate.. Whats the point in that

Can you even hear it let alone use it I run 8psi @ idle and is tame

An MTC pectel board is what is used with an EA ALS Setup.

Anonymous

Jano...its very loud and works Does it get louder then..LOL...and why aint mine getting higher then..i put it down to a mild one then?The TB has had the 2 holes converted to one elongated one....and its a proper valve..something aint right is it?

GaryEvo

jano so what do you do with the escort then when using 8psi

how do you brake??

Versus_Creations

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DazC

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What was the point in posting that?

GaryEvo

is that a reply

DaveEscos

maybee he attatches a rope to one of his little oddkids and throws them out the window as an anchor..


batmobile cornering stylee ?

Anonymous

...wish someone would have my case out!

Benn 304R

roflmfao@ Dave quality reply m8

ballin

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pedal box!

Jim Galbally

gary, aint that what 1 way valves are for?

GaryEvo

what they can create vacuum from the engine when engine cant!!!

M K

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ive gone pedal box set up to avoid the brake issues with ALS

Eagle

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says the man that spends most of his time on the board takin the piss

andre_k

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as much as Jano?

Anonymous

Obviously PF proves to be only any good for pisstaking

markk

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for all you people running positive pressure at your idle speed - would it be possible for you to take a photo whilst the als is on of your rev counter and boost guage in one pic for me ??

cheers

Anonymous

Markk...i have seen Daves run about 1 bar at idle down SouthEnd!!!

...so does mine sound correct Markk???0psi @ idle...thats all i want to know ...and how do you tell whats mild ALS and whats aggressive??? TBH although i didnt reach 0psi on using a std iscv it was far noisier!!!

markk

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phil i want to see the photos myself , im not going to say what mine does, only that its two stage and the second stage is very viscous, ive never ever felt such heat come through my cars floor on an event since fitting this system for my last event, and thats from the exhaust pipe next to my left leg , in fact to be able to use this in the summer months i WILL need to fit some sort of heat protection in the geabox tunnel.

DazC

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Your ALS don't half make some loud bangs Mark!

markk

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its also very effective on stage - WOW - what a bonus antilag actually being used for what it was designed for

Anonymous

Markk does mine sound ok with 0 psi?

What does aggressive do over mild anti lag?

markk

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what bypass valve you using ? a modded std item ? if so then thats ok, if its not just a 'std' modded item then there are many variants

the differance between a system that has a small bypass and a large bypass of air is massive, the inbetween gearchange use ( as its designed for) is so much quicker back on boost - in fact your never off boost, my engine is a high comp unit, on the road is very crisp, very low geared as well, but use it without and als on a stage and it feels as flat as an 8.0:1 engine - absolutly gutless, even on a small bypas ( my stage one ) the differance is stunning, on stage two - on gravel in a 2wd car its frightening the way the power delivery is and any revs.

just a small test for you, run your engine, then power your bypass valve open ( not by switching the als on as this will retard the ign also) but just power the valves up and see how high the revs go ( dont make it stay there as it will rev high) just a quick power on- power off and see how much air you are actually bypassing

Anonymous

Markk...i now run the Mountune version...the Grp A one i have makes the system much louder IMO but cant use it as when you switch it off it revs upto 5k idle ...noted over 0psi about 2 psi @ idle....it works by springs so it can never stick but i took it apart to locktite the nut on and must have it incorrect adjusted ...As said the std ISCV gave it a bit but was very bangy

Driving with the Mountune one is good it really does feel no lag between changes...but looking at the boost gauge it goes 0 psi idle and when thrashing and change gear it drops back to 0psi but goes back to 20psi almost instantly.

So why is there variations between the std/Grp A and Mountune items?

The mountune one on start up goes to about 2300 rpm then drops so there is your answer to your question!!!!...but no where newar as bangy as the other 2..WHY?

markk

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the amount of antilag ( not interested in how much boost it makes whilst switched on as this will vary with heat ) given will depend on how much air we can bypass at closed throttle, but the more you have the more control we need to have to preven power from actually being created at 'off throttle' ( as its not actually idle really !! ) hence the more retard you need to use in the ignition, the more of this process we use the more heat we generate, then we need to reduce this heat to get more efficiant and to also try and combat the PROBLEM of noise ( research EGR) - the group A valve you have is or probably was made by mountune in the 1st place , the rest tend to be bad copy, relying on gravity to close the valve in the OFF position - hence no contol over the valve for closing hence why you see alot of these cars(road cars) with ALS having problems of instant high revs upon initial startup.

hth

Anonymous

...so which valve should i use?Grp A or the Mountune (copy or whatever!)...i see what you mean about gravity my lastest valve needed cleaning to make the bit drop more easily!...My proper one it appears cannot fail...except i need to set it up correctly to work off ALS

What i cant figure is why ALS is quieter on the Mountune copy than the std or Grp A valve!...i WANT noise

DaveEscos

i'd happily swap my noise for your lack of phil


Id much rather have quiet als.. rather than loud.. but im not splashing out 3k on EGR!

GARETH T

all the mountune kit is a toyota egr valve, a alloy cylinder used too store some pressure, a one way valve too keep the perssure in the cylinder, some festo solinoid valves and a bit of piping,,,

could make it for a 200 quid

DaveEscos

really gareth? im off out in a mo.. but maybe we can chat about this in more detail