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Old 20-11-2005, 10:54 AM
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got a rover 216 1994 head gasket is blown between 2 and 3

how hard are they to do????
Old 20-11-2005, 10:55 AM
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Is that K series or honda stu.
Old 20-11-2005, 10:56 AM
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Im guessing K Series as the honda unit would hardly ever fail. I'd say 3 hours work and no its not hard. But ensure you have no head corrosion.
Old 20-11-2005, 10:58 AM
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its u i wanted to speak to lol

its the bubble shape dont know if its honda or rover think rover tbh

ill pay u if u do it for me??

as i never timed one up b4 either
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Originally Posted by RST_lee
Im guessing K Series as the honda unit would hardly ever fail. I'd say 3 hours work and no its not hard. But ensure you have no head corrosion.
if its a 94 model... it should be a honda but as its the bubble shape its going to be the k series in which case i reckon it's a 95 model
Old 20-11-2005, 11:00 AM
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If bubble shape then they never had the honda unit in bar the 416 automatic.
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its got a black rocker cover with rover on it if that helps
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Stu, I'd do it any time but im not very reliable at the moment. We have a big multi site project on at the moment so i will be working most weekends up to christmas.

However my advise.
Make sure the gasket set is genuine.
Get the head skimmed whatever.
Squeeze your lifters on rebuild or they will hold the valves open for hours.
Old 20-11-2005, 11:03 AM
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1998-ROVER-216...QQcmdZViewItem

same engine as this
Old 20-11-2005, 11:06 AM
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Stu im trying to remember if you lock these engines up at the botton.
I would prefer to do one of these than a rs turbo head any day. Dont forget the only thing you will time up is the cams/crank rather than the ignition timing.

DONT LEAVE head off for weeks. These engines have "Wet liners" and liners can come away from the seals in the blcok if left for a long time.
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Originally Posted by Roosie
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1998-ROVER-216-GSI-BLUE_W0QQitemZ4591137363QQcategoryZ18262QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem

same engine as this
it's a rover k series... if you were more local i would do this for you
Old 20-11-2005, 11:19 AM
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im a confident diy mechanic.

i deffo wont be able to do the timing!!!
might start taking it off today i have a spare head if i need one
Old 20-11-2005, 11:19 AM
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i done these a few times easy enough to do, they have really really long head bolts lol deffo get the head skimmed and squeeze the lifters as said above and whatever you do dont move the bottom end with the head off as the liners will move
Old 20-11-2005, 11:20 AM
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im only do the car to sell lee not to keep so ultimate reliabilty aint important as long as its ok for year or so
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Stu timing is easy peasy. Crank pully/Cams have marks.
Just turn it over by hand before using the starter motor.
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are they strech bolts or do they need replacing
Old 20-11-2005, 11:25 AM
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Rover never replace em.
Old 20-11-2005, 11:27 AM
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ok im going to give it a try fook it its only a rover cant be much worse than it is now

how much to ivor charge for skim and i can leave the valve in cant i
Old 20-11-2005, 11:28 AM
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Ł20 I reckon if not less. Take the cams out and yep no need to take valves out.
Old 20-11-2005, 11:31 AM
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who did u sell my old blakc rst to i see a girl driving it other day
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Originally Posted by RST_lee
Ł20 I reckon if not less. Take the cams out and yep no need to take valves out.
when we skim the rover heads we leave the cams in... much easier
Old 20-11-2005, 01:58 PM
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who did u sell my old blakc rst to i see a girl driving it other day
Shaun Stockwell he lives in Mildenhall. That would be his mrs i guess.
Old 20-11-2005, 02:16 PM
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its a very easy job to do m8,i did my brothers,you dont need new head bolts,took me a day to do with my halfords tool kit and a haynes manual,
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well all the head is off now looks all good sahll i skim or not?
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skim YES
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I'm in the middle of doing a Rover 114 for my girlfriend -probably very similar apart from its the 8v not the 16v like yours not alot too it TBH - head was off in a couple of hours....one of the bastard headbolts had rusted on the outside of the engine which took most of the time so I'm going to replace em all to be on the safe side.

I've got the proper Rover service book here on CDROM if you need any diagrams etc when you put it back together then let me know & I'll send you them.
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Skim it deffo. I know your sellin it. But just pretend your mum was buying it. Its an alloy head and one your replacing a head gasket on. Oh and its a K-Series.
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that means i have to take pullys off i have ne off and the other wont come off as it keeps spinning the cam and there is no way of locking it now its off engine.


Lee i never locked the bottom end up ie all the pistons are sitting half way up now is that a big problem

how long will ivor searle take to skim it
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Erm locking the engine should not be a major problem. Did you mark it up though?

As Martin said You dont have to skim with cams out as the valves dont pertrude if open. Where as say a cvh one would.
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there is white line already been pt on when it had new cam belt dont know if that will still work. ill need u to time it upf or me when its together lol
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Give us a shout Stu. I'll pop over one evening.
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do i need to put the bottomend tdc before i put head back on if so is it the 2 middle pistons that need to be up or 2 end ones?
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If its anything like the 8v engines then apparently you are supposed to set the timing to 90deg BTDC before dismantling everything. Also its not advised that you move the bottom end whilst the head is off because you may push the wet liners out of their seats which would then mean you would need to replace the seals on them, also apparently its difficult to move the bottom end anyway due the design of the engine with the head off...or so the manual says!!
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changed a 214, was a right ballache, the thing was shagged good and proper
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not being funny how do u know if its EXACTLY 90 degrees when you looking undernned the car as your looking at a dodgy angle if u get my drift
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Iv got a 214Si bubble, my hg is going aswel!! Are these easy to repair and if so what is the best hg sealant to use??
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Rachel's dad had a HG go on his 214 within the first 5000 miles.

Asked for a Headgasket for a W plate Rover 214 and the guy in the parts place said "Sure sounds like a fair swap"

I'll get my coat
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there easy to get off ect takes minuetes and no hard bolts to get to but its the timing im not sure on
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Hi, Newbie here, dont know if it's still the same, but when i did the rover heads + timing,i had to make sure the pistons were all in a line halfway down the bore and if you do that you will probably see the timing marks lined up anyway?
Did it the "so called normal way first" and could not crank, until my mech mate told me this!! hope it helps
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i think he might have sorted it by now


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