Paddy

I couldn't be arsed to read through all that banchester.

Dan B

I can get those Dell widescreen monitors for £680 without needing to rely on delivery, since I wouldn't trust Ebay as far as I could throw the server-cluster it's hosted on...

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VERTO

GEFORCE 6800 GT 256MB DDR3 £300

RUNNING A HIGH DEFF LEAD TO THE SCREEEN

REALLY IS THE DOGS BOLLOX

BEST 600 NOTES IVE EVER SPENT

Zetec Andy

What processor aswell mate, ive seen your screen shots of BF2 so im hoping with the Nvidia 7800GTX it will be better!

Jim Galbally

as ive told you it wont be THAT much better as BF2 is still heavily dependant on CPU

Jim Galbally

also guys what you lot recon is the most powerfull AGP card on the market at the moment? 6800 or x800? or is there not much in it?

ive now gotten tempted to up the 9800Pro to something a bit newer

MOONDUST FRST

Whats this card like-

http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/stor...&category_oid=

after a new one for mine spec is -

asus 64 bit 3400
5 PCI SLOT& 8X AGP
200 gig hard drive
+512DDR memory DDR400(pc3200)
400 psu

is this the best one for me for the money?

Dan B

My 6800GT gets about 18,000 in 3dMark03 and about 5,000 in 3dMark05, with a relatively slow CPU by today's standards (AMD Athlon XP2600+ at 2083MHz), and 2GB of unbranded PC2700 RAM...

Would be interesting to see a similar system's scores in both, but with an X850XT, as a comparison...

Jim Galbally

ok ive just done a search and found a gfx card test they did for BF2...

i'm now ready to slap a x800 or 9800 on my credit card

200quid MAX budget (would rather pay 50 tho ) and must be AGP...

show me the cards lads

ps Radeon 9800Pro 128mb for sale

Jim Galbally

ps manchester, i take it ll back after reading this hardware review

Dan B

The card? Yes (although I'd go for a 6600GT instead - see link below)
From Currys? Absolutely not, rip-off merchants...

I'm lucky that I can pop up the road to Scan, for a 256MB 6600GT (with all the trimmings) like this...

Assuming you can afford it (website doesn't give a price), I'd say go for the 256MB 6800GT over the 256MB 6600GT, though, but it just depends how much money you want to spend...

Dan B

If I was doing my upgrade any time soon, you could have had my 256MB 6800GT for about £175 (half the price I originally paid for it)......AGP, and standard factory pre-overclock to 400/1100 (with software that lets you tune it up to 430/1200 - not sure how reliable it'd be at those speeds, though, without serious cooling).

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pentium4 andy it was built the pc to play battlefield 2

and i asure you it rocks

the motherboard is special limited edition not sure what it is to be honest

it multi threads or something I JUST PAY THE MAN

turns 1 gig of ram into 2 fuck knows how ...

just dont get enough time to use it

i will take a pic of the inside tomorrow see if any of the pc buffs on here

know what it it

Jim Galbally

ok, max budget is £177 lads... find me a card

if you cant find website where i can split the payment over 2 cards then the budget is £213

or i wait 3 days to order it and max budget is 1k

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paid monthly by any chance

i used to get paid by that way RICH FOR A DAY

Jim Galbally

oh and what the fuck is the 6800XT when it's at home?

i know the LE is the shit one, the GT is the pretty damn cool sli one, the Ultra is the SUPER_COOL one, but what the fuck is the XT?

Jim Galbally

ok just looked it up and its only an 8 pipeline version

someone find me somewhere to buy a regular 6800 card please

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Jim Galbally

your into pcs what does multi threading do ANY IDEA

LAYMANS TERMS PLEASE

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heres a hint from my pc builder

buy the gcard from pc world

then bring it back 10 months later ..its fooked

they upgrade the card as its out of date then

just keep the box and all details and paper work

IT DOES WORK "trust me "he said

hes done it loads of times

MOONDUST FRST

that 6800 gt looks pretty sweet on ebay for £180 buy it now, only thing is will my spec handle it?

DanRSturbo

Moondust, you could probably benefit from another 512 ram in the system, but other then that it should run fine

DanRSturbo

If Galbally don't want it, I'll have it, although I don't get paid till the end of the month

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Dan B

Given that the graphics cards (SLi) I'm getting to replace the 6800GT will set me back over £1k alone, I'm not going to be doing this upgrade until after Christmas, at the very earliest!

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Dan B

you mean by 1k a grand for a gcard

dan i know fuck all about building pcs in your opinion

the specs on mine where they worth 1k for a upgrade

it would be nice for a second opinion

Dan B

Your spec...

1GB RAM, I'd assume this to be DDR judging by the rest of the spec, decent enough (although if you're planning on playing the likes of BF2 and similar, I'd consider upgrading that to 2GB)
Pentium 4 3.2GHz (definitely a decent processor - personally, I prefer AMD chips, but that's a decent P4 chip you have there)
256MB nVidia GeForce 6800GT, definitely a decent graphics card (same one I've got here, and mine runs Half Life 2 at 1600x1200 with full detail at 60-100 fps)
A 250GB hard-drive,. and a 120GB hard-drive (same as me, again), I'm guessing one or both of these are Serial-ATA (SATA), since your system seems to have 3 optical drives (CD/DVD).

All in all, quite a decent enough system, I see no problems with what you have there......price-wise, lemme check what the above would set you back in today's prices at Scan:

RAM: 1GB PC3200 = £62
CPU: P4 3.20 GHz = £142
GFX: 256MB 6800GT = £175
HD1: 250GB SATA = £75
HD2: 120GB SATA = £60

That Realtek AC97 is a built-in soundcard, so probably about £80 for a decent motherboard to support SATA/P4/8xAGP/etc, a PSU with the case for about £50.

All in all, for that spec, at today's prices, you'd probably be looking at about £750 (absolute maximum)......prices come down quite quickly, though, so it would depend how long ago you had it all upgraded (to give you an idea of HOW quickly prices come down, that graphics card cost me £335 just 12 months ago).

Oh, and yes, to answer your question about my planned upgrade, it's £1,000 just for the graphics cards (two of them together, SLi'd), see the following for the details:

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=301887

Dan B

Assuming you need AGP, this one'll give you a massive £2 change from your initial £177 (if/when they get some back in stock, that is)......now don't spend it all at once!

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Dan B

thanks for your REPY

i asked him about another 1 gig ram he said no dont need it

coiser or sometihing it is

will get one anyway to boost it up

CHEERS AGAIN

Dan B

Corsair? Slightly more expensive than "normal unbranded" memory chips, but tends to run slightly better aswell......you get what you pay for, in other words!

And I'd say there's no such thing as "too much memory", within sensible reasons, of course......2GB, in my opinion, would make a noticeable difference when playing certain newer games (BF2, especially, being a good example).

If you're going to add another memory chip, make sure you find out the speed of the current chip and match it with the new one...

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Dan B

cheers for the info ..builder is buying back my old sony 19 screen crt

he knows the onions on my pc ..will get another 1 gig

AWESOME HELP ON THIS THREAD

Zetec Andy

On the 7800GTX? awsome isnt it

Dan B

You're welcome......cars aren't something I can offer a lot of advice on, computers I know a little bit more about!

Dan B

Ssshhh, stop tempting me, I'm so close to going out and dumping £2k's worth of computer equipment onto a credit card!

Zetec Andy

Do it mate, at the moment id rather throw £400 at my PC than at my car, i dont do cars in this weather

Dan B

I'm trying to save up to buy a house, though, want to get away from renting as soon as possible......getting annoyed with the landlord not agreeing to anything I, or the letting agency, request (apart from major repairs); not being able to make any changes (internal or external); having the house regularly inspected by the letting agency (at the request of the landlord).

£2k spent now would mean another few months delay in paying off my already-existing credit card bill, so I can apply for a mortgage with no debt under me...

Jim Galbally

Dan, NOT IN STOCK on scan mate.

infact NOWHERE seems to have 6800s in stock (unless theyre XT or LE ones)

someone help me find somewhere to buy a 6800!!!

Dan B

Give them a ring, Jim, see if they're getting any back in stock......I know few places stock them now, but I'm pretty sure Scan would remove it from their website if it wasn't in stock and they weren't planning to sell any more.

Zetec Andy

have you tried micrdirect jim?

Jim Galbally

MD got no stock either

Dan B

Aria have 2 in stock, although I've never heard of the brand-name, and I've never used Aria, so can't really say anything about them...