Kev.H

My girlf is reading a book "the new pearl harbour" gotta make you wonder what really happened the twin towers shouldnt of fallen down and the way they did suggested an explosive was involved the pentagon theres no actual pics of a plane just an explosion no arabs where listed on the plane that hit the pentagon etc etc

check these links very scary

http://lawn.batcave.net/p.html

http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm

Lee Reynolds

Well ive wtached a program on the twin towers and its obvious how they fell after seeeing how they were built.

Watched a bit on pentagon but missed some. But the prog reckoned that was a missle....specially as u hear fook all about the pentagon being hit but here about the towers all the time.....keeping it hush hush as they fooked up not detecting the missile so to speak.

The Sludge

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Kev.H

its mad fighter planes are meant to intercept any possible terrorist strikes on the towers but didnt

the pentagon has it own self defence weapons missiles which didnt go off

20 mins of tape is lost of the plane that hit alledged to of hit the pentagon

gus

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brought the book today.

Nick500

I watched a program about one of the survivors of the pentagon hit. The program said that a plane had hit the main building and how the people who survived the hit were basically doused in Aviation fuel from the planers tanks and due to the fires most of them were killed. The program told how this one guy had managed to get to safety whilst burning and how rescue people helped put him out!

Its a sick world though isn't it! I blame religion!!

Nick

Kev.H

the part of the pentagon hit was the only side to have spinklers and was under renovation anyway thus less staff etc

Billabong

I remember watching it live, I know things can often get confusing during such a tragedy, but things certainly didn't add up at the time re: the Pentagon incident and the other plane that was/wasn't shot down nearby......

Lee Reynolds

Like the man on the moon.......far too big and too many people involved to have been a set up. Think thats going too far

Adrian

I remember watching it live too. Finished a 6pm 2am stint. Got to bed at about 5. The old man came and woke me up saying, turn ya TV on all hell is breaking loose in NY.

Pentagon and "other plane" didnt seem to tie up.

Conspriacy Theories will reign on

The Sludge

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Lee Reynolds

Sorry Sludge but i am affraid you are TOTALLY wrong. 99.999999999% of ALL wars is down to religion. You need to do some reading m8.

Billabong

IMO, Pentagon & 'other' plane (over Pennsilvania??) incidents were huge fook ups of some sort, hence why not much is heard about them and coverage at the time was wierd - some sort of media blanket was probably introduced (mid coverage)regarding those and anything that did go wrong could fairly simply be attached to the incident in NYC....

The live coverage I was watching was from US channels btw.

People also seem to have forgotten there was some sort of dry run scenario booked for pretty much the actual events that eventually happened that same week, all too wierd......

The Sludge

http://911digitalarchive.org/

if you look at one of these links u will see a missile hitting one of these planes just before it hits a twin tower

Ginge !

sorry bit religion is what caused the very first war and wars from there on too

as for the other plane that was stopped by the crew and it crashed anyway didnt it


think people love the conspirsy theory too much and so people make up stories to sell books

sorry but that was a fooking big thing to cover up

they are alot out there but they are all well know to the public, hence why no wepons was found ect

st3v3

i saw a program off the net (bit-torrented) where they showed "stills" of a plane hitting the pentagon,BUT the plane was strategicaly placed behind a electronic box ,the one that lift the automatic barriers,but the guy who was narrating the video explained and showed his workings out,that there was no way even a small plane could fit behind it nevermind anything as big as what was supposedly hit the pentagon,also it showed a trail of vapour but in fact the vapour trail of a jet liner is x amout of meters behind the plane ,so again there was no way it was a plane that was behid this electronic box,although the vapour trail DID match a misile,
The twin towers was also shown on the same vid,after the planes had hit they left big holes in the building,natrually,they showed close up footage of the "hole" and you could see people looking out of the side of the building,i kid you not they were not on fire,so if these pics were real it proves that the buildings were not on fire as described,
i could go on for ages about this video and that it could be all a cover up of one thing or another but i wont..
i know what i believe,these are my own thourghts and others may think differently
BUT
at the end of the day many people lost their lives unnessasarily (sp) who ever did this, i hope will burn in hell.........for ever

Kev.H

look at those links the pics of the pentagon show no plane and if it had gone right into the building there would be a much bigger mess planes arent small

cosworth

And what about all the people who watched it "live"??? Live as in real life and not on television...

What about all the people who were killed on the planes and their relatives??

Du you REALLY think that this could have been a staged performance????

How many people would have needed to be "in on it"???

So now we have`nt landed on the moon, Downing Street 10 is just a place were the jewish world conspiracy rules the world, Tony Blair is just a puppet( ) and the cars were driving around in is really just a big scam, yhey are in reality just brooms.....

Don`t you realise that all these conspiracy theories is either big business(someone thinks up a big conspiracy and writes a book etc. that lots of people buy...) or some paranoid geeks who believe that that the whole world is run by a couple of jews....

The Sludge

http://911review.org/

EscortWRC

Yes, one did

plynchy

Watched a program on why the towers collapsed,they WERE designed to take the impact of a plane,but not one full of very explosive aviation fuel that ignited soon after impact. Absolutely fucking awful seeing it all on TV,something i'll never forget. The world is a differnt place because of those lunatics.

Lee Reynolds

No mate i dont deny there are cover ups. I do beleive Diana was killed off by Royalty....but that aint war. Like i say nearly all war relates back to religion.....my god is bigger/better than your god......thats a fact not a conspiracy The rest we will never know in our lifetime Mate.......but i dont think towers was a cover up....i just think a blunder was made over the pentagon

Kev.H

Im sorry for anyone invovled but im sure they would want the whole truth is writing a book just a way to get money but thens thats kinda the same as the powers that be just using terrorism as a way to goto war seal a solid consistant supply of oil and help build there empire remeber The states do fuck all to help the ozone problem and still drive about in there gas guzzlers

The Sludge

YES- now i agree lee!!!!!! Pentagon was made to look worse than waht it actually shud have been. look at devsatyion on twin towers yet nowt with one plane on one building

trevCOSS

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Here here

Lee Reynolds

Gotta say thats about right

Kev.H

Bollox we see and hear exactly what they want us to see and hear dont ever forget that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Example South Korea Doctor everything and I mean everything even down to that big explosion a while back and you dont think our countries dont doctor whats best for us to hear be real

I bet you spoke to people in different countries about the modern and 3rd World on why 911 happened and who caused it you would be very shoked at the different replies and who was to blame because of what they had been informed by the news and press

northerner

The real reason behind Sept 11th may never be known, but there are inconsistancies before and after.

The company I work for, lost people on Sept 11, but I have always wondered why the hijackers were never overpowered on the planes? I don't wish to negate the memory of any of the people whom died, but ....

The Sludge

agreed

Kev.H

The 4th plane they were managing to over power the hi jackers it was then shot down

Only one reason Constant Reliable Oil supply !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

st3v3

it was suposed to have crashed upside down durring the struggle between passengers and terrorist pilot...not shot down

K3V HA

Ive got the DVD that those 2 french guys made when they were doing a film on 2 tookie fire fighters, was a tragic day, my sister was supposed to Fly the NY the day after, she couldnt go for another 8 moinths after.

I think its too big an incident for it to be anything to do with anyone else but the loonatics from al queda!!

I agree with the statement above, this world will NEVER be the same again!!

The Sludge

Kev h----exactly wot i sed from beginning of thread

Kev.H

after finding out his country was under terrorist attack he didnt ask for details of hows best to deal and what was happening the president carried on with daily photo opputunity with 2nd grade kids reading about a pet goat

Nick500

Sludge I do agree that our governments, their governments cover up issues as you have said, but I still think that religion is a greater evil than good! take as someone said the Jews and Germans. That was due to meek inheriting the earth, they have always been persicuted, but admittedly they do have got a sense of superiority over others as they know they will inherit all!! ther Koreans! the serbs and Bosnians, the south african thing started as white christians, dutch whatever thinking they were better than the locals!

I will agree that there is always more involved than we are ever told! Which actually pisses me off cos I am a nosey bastid and want to know!!

Nick

EscortWRC

I wonder what would be the outcome if people applied the same skepticism that they are about this to politicians that are covered in the media.

The media spoon feeds you THEIR opinion or slant on stories instead of giving you just the facts and letting you form your own opinion.

Seems strange that there is a HUGE double standard on this

st3v3

well i think this subject ourght to be dropped now...we all have our own opinions,a bit like the old debate of "zvh or cvh which is better"
we will never ever know what really happened ,whether it was a coverup or not,it doesnt matter,what does matter is that over 3000 people were killed that morning and we should pray to god that something like this never happenes again....rip all those who died on 9/11

The Sludge

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Nick500

Agreed mate it is getting far to deep, and we may not get out of the whole!! This is passionford not question time!!!

northerner

Going slightly away from the flavour of this thread - is regarding Tony Blair's involvement in Iraqi. It would appear that pressure has brought to bear regarding US companies sited in the UK. If you look at US legislation (high import taxes, etc) during Bush junior era, it is all about consolidating the US's position globally (as the bully). I don;t know how far the US would go to reinforce their position, but that in itself may be the crux of the issue.