SS1

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should be worth a laff..this type of program normally is

SS1

iTrader: (3)

mot tester said the steering wheel is more shiny than my head

SS1

iTrader: (3)

weeve juuuuussst been jet washed

Moose 130

I don't know what some people expect TBH.

The cheaper escort was better than the £325 one!!!!

And I just sold a copper a Daewoo for £400........

gurnE

I thought that program was a load of bollocks.

Buying a £200 car from a wide boy breaker and you are suprised to find out it's a nail when you pull it apart

Ok, the bloke shouldn't have clocked the Astra but again, that's pretty much standard behavior at that end of the of the market.

I was hoping it would be looking at ringers and cut and shut merchants rather than just the bottom feeders of the car market.

Less.

Fook me not even I would sell shit like that

Fucking fly by by nights tossers

The Sludge

agreed gurne

funny tho when thye tried to run him over.

gurnE

fookin' was.......lol

My family were all chatting about how terrible it was, I'm trying not to laugh

Less.

Things is the cheaper the car the worst the customer

The Rapid 1

Only saw it from the escort

So after THEIR experts had as long to rip it apart as they like they managed to find one dodgy brake cylinder one leaky shock and one knackered seat catch.

£150 wernt it, bargain i recon

AND did they happen to mention how long ago the MOT was actually done

I mean couldve been perfectly legit 11 months ago

Best quote " We would like to leave now" as massive tow truck reversing rapidly

Think they should SWEEP that episode away

GTechR

funny as fuk

Anonymous

Almost every car a trader sells for 200 quid is going to be a fucking shitter, what do they expect?

Whats on next week, and Expose on some 20 grand flats in london where the marble on the floor is cracked?

Anthony B

Fair play though, everyone on here knows a bit about cars and knows what to expect..if you don't know much you might be driving out in a car that can't stop , and it runs our nice well cared for cars up the arse, or knocks your kids over on a crossing.....one of the brakes was pi55ing fluid out, FFS.

And any 5hit bag that happily sells a car on to an unknown person is just encouraging people to drive round with no insurance etc etc which costs you and me all the time.

The cars were clearly bottom end of the market, but they still have the potential to kill some fooker if not safe. All credit to the fella for exposing them!

A

The Rapid 1

But what about all the others he aint

Just think they couldve found worse example

I mean no matter how little someone knows about cars what do you really expect from a breakers yard for £150

Oh and it sounded like it was stopping ok when the guy "test drove" it
But the presenter didnt do a test drive to see how the brakes were, so he went to a breakers paid £150 for a car and didnt even test drive it

Am in NO way condoning selling dodgy cars but really sure the BBC couldve done better

just as a question dont them escort come with dual circuit brakes so one weeping cylinder wouldnt be the end of the braking

Anonymous

Almost every car on the road with old drum brakes have a wheel cylinder that is seeping slightly.

If you went round forcecourts buyingcarsfor 20 times that amount you would find similar!

I bet 50% of all the cars for sale on passionford at the moment currently have as many if not more problems, just the people owning them dont realise that!

Was a load of drama and fuss over nothing at all.

They were old cheap cars and had some signs of wear, what do they expect for a couple of hundred quid?

Fair enough the guy knocking milage back was asking for trouble and found it, but again that isnt really unusual if you know the truth of what goes on in the used car trade.

How else do you expect anyone to sell you a car for a fewhundred quid and make a profit?

If they spent a couple of hundred quid on each car fixing it up then guess what, no one would ever buy them cause they would all go and buy unfixed one for the coupld of hundred quid less from someone else instead.

Its just a case of getting what you pay for really, in this case, nothing worth having

Oranoco

If you buy a car for under £500 you will buy an absolute piece of junk. WTF do people expect. Anybody with half an ounce of common sense knows it'll probably be clinging on to its MOT certificate by its finger nails.

I agree selling shonky unroadworthy cars is bad at best and potentially fatal at worst. They may as well have exposed scrap yards for selling a car that some fuckwit puts back on the road

Moose 130

as long as the brakes worked (and no visable signs of leaking), shock did a reasonable job of damping and you can gainaccess to the rear belts from the other side, it'll pass an MOT

It's a crap test and we all know it!

Gra

i thought tho for 150 that you would have expected them problems i mean not exactly terminal is it a dodgy cylinder, shock etc, if it was a cut ad shut or similar then ok. As for the yellow astra why the fook did the BBC buy a car with 85k on the clock and an old mot showing 103k plus the new mot showing the wrong car

Anthony B

It's a matter of opinion really

I suppose if it's not that important to have all your brakes working then why don't we all go out now and disconnect a rear wheel cylinder and see how the car brakes....yes I bet we're all tempted eh! And take the kids out for a ride in it as well.

My point is, some people do not know better and they risk your life and mine being sold those cars.It is anybody's guess what other faults might have been there (possibly a leaking caliper, master cylinder knackered, shagged tyres), and that brake cylinder was clearly pissing out, not weeping. I take great pains, as you probably do, to ensure my cars are as safe as possible...what's the point if you condone those shit heaps being on the road.

We'd all be the first to complain if some shit heap wrote your well loved motor off and the driver had no insurance and a faked MOT.

Less.

Yes and no

Okay you buy car a car fro that money you expect problems,but if anyone with any sense would check th mot matches the car,

Okay there a few dodgy traders that sell cars from ly bys and their good ones aswell.

Another point would anyone have their car serviced at a breakers,I know I wouldnt

Less.

Also cars that age have no vat em I sure,plus wouldnt set alarm bells ringing if they charged yer vat ay rate

jameswrx

I'm glad I wasn't the only one that thought it was a bit lame..

News flash.. £150 car in less than perfect condition shocker

jaiscossie

that was filmed in my home town colchester ha ha recognised a couple of ppl on there including andy fairclough he had the merc and covered in tatoos , wouldnt wanna get on the wrong side of him !!!

24vodka

most of the cars i have had could be on that program?
what do you what for that money

Less.

How comes they not find fault with the bloke with the Merc,cars not very balanced

Anthony B

I seem to be in a minority here, but i reckon the fella does a good job, like exposing the tossers who rip your granny off for her central heating getting fixed when there was nothing wrong.

If you think it's ok to let some car oblivious halfwit loose in a car capable of (nearly) a ton, (and let's face it' they'll spend even less on repairs), then that's up to you.
I know the cars only cost the price of a good night out, but they are out there, and I think that is the point.....I personally would never buy one, but some people are forced to, and how would you feel if your family bought one and they were killed in it or by it....probably not quite so forgiving......

When your motor gets written off and the driver legs it, and you have to find the money to fix it because they aren't insured or even known, I'm sure it will seem just as trivial.

The Rapid 1

DO totally AGREE with u, my point is think the BBC couldve made a more grapic example

SS1

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GOOD POINT NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT most prob shit scared

Less.

Not saying he was right to sell the cars in that condition.

Yes exposing the iffy plumbers and roofers good.

But I feel todays episode was not very good journolism

RSCAT

next week its rogue mates who are supposed to ring you with some
info but dont

The Rapid 1

Now that is worth putting on the tv nothing worse



BUT

I recon the mates would probs ring IF they had info

could be the mate keeps trying and not be able to get the info

RSCAT

dont lie rapido, you know you forgot

RS2000CUSTOM

How much of my TV licence money was wasted on this poor piece of "shock" programming ?

If all that is wrong with a £150 car is a "weeping" rear cylinder and a faulty seat tilt catch then methinks that is a bargain !!

When I used to work at a dealership Brand New cars had worse faults

Only difference was that manufacturers paid the dealerships to put faults right

OH and the cars cost a lot more

CAVEAT EMPTOR - Let the buyer beware

phil4x4saph

I didnt watch the programme cos those shows are all the same!

I bet they showed clips of some wailing, whinging, ugly fat woman who bleated on about having put her children at risk in the car, and I bet they used the word "deathtrap" over and over again.

Cos they always do!

£150 cars from a scrapyard are a pile of crap? No shit Sherlock

Whats next weeks exclusive? Rain is wet!

Anthony B

......oh dear seems like none of you have woken up yet.

Some people don't know much about cars and will expect a £250 motor with MOT to be perfectly sound.....just because it has an MOT.

if you think it is ok, then stop pissing around with mot's and insurance and your 20k saffs ..go get a £150 motor and don't declare it yes i know it is obvious a cheap car will be crap, but they are out there totally undeclared and illegal. Yes it was easy, but ............oh fcuk it...you wouldn't get the point anyway

Seems like some boneheads think anything is tolerable.. I thought some of you actually cared or had something sensible to say........and before you ask, one of my friends was killed in a hit and run by one such shit heap with an undeclared driver...

andyhardy

I know of proper used car (and have heard of some new car) dealerships that do far worse than what was shown on this programme at the backstreet garage! I think everyone's point is that they could have chosen cases where the audience would be treated to an eye opener of a dodgy dealership and the typical dodges that get done by them (thus educating them on how not to get conned). This program did none of that - it was just crap!

I don't condone what the backstreet garage did or how it operated, just feel that the program proved the old adage 'if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys'.

Andy

TrevCos

iTrader: (1)

I must admit I thought I was going to see a program where I was shocked what people have done to sell cars, but this is the norm for cars at this price bracket. It isn't nice, but it happens all the time. If I was selling a car I'd rather scrap it than sell one in that condition, what's a couple of poxy quid compared to a human life, but there's a lot of people who don't give a toss, and a lot of people who do a heck of a lot worse things. Some of the stuff I've seen in the past you wouldn't believe.

But I laughed at the bit about the screw in the tyre, how ridiculous.

Damo V

that wasnt a screw it was a plug in a hole, as a puncture repair

it was MOT'd that morning...

TrevCos

iTrader: (1)

There was one that Rogue Traders put a screw in the tyre mate, which the 'mechanic' was supposed to find. I did see the iffy puncture repair as well though.

Anonymous

Who probably was the sort of ignorant twat of a driver with no concern for anyone else that he would have done the same in a brand new merc.

Maybe people like me and Rapid1 arent really getting across what we mean very well, i will try and be more blunt.


IT IS WRONG TO SELL UNSAFE CARS TO PEOPLE

The people in this program though really werent, a seeping wheel cylinder on a twin braking circuit car really isnt very dangerous at all.

What the program makers should have done is actaully focused on some REALLY dodgy cars, the cars in question had minor faults only, but in reality there are people out there selling cars which are genuinely utter fucking deathtraps, the program makers could have gone and found some of those, instead of finding some distinctly average cars and then using over dramatic language to make them seem far worse than they really were.

Its like having a program on car crime and refering to people doing 75mph on a motorway as "recklessly endagering the lives of others by travelling at speeds way in excess of the speed limit" when instead they should be concentrating on people who genuinely are a danger to the public.


THE PROGRAM MAKERS MISSED A VALUABLE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW EXAMPLES OF GENUINELY DANGEROUS CARS and instead they just found the first couple of traders they could find and painted them up as far worse than they really were.