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Old 07-09-2005, 04:32 PM
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Default Pro-alloy do it AGAIN!

In a desperate attempt to help resolve my water temp issues, I realise that the best thing to do would be to box in all the intercooler and radiator (which was kindly confirmed by Mr Norris of NMS ), but not having time to do this (car is currently have a new clutch fitted for me to be 'Ring ready ), so I came up with the idea at the end of last week to have an auxiliary radiator made that will sit where the turbo cooler one sits normally, to suppliment the existing cooling. However, I decided to use the existing charge-cooler arrangement (which is currently looped back on itself with a U-bend), which means the head gets the benefit of the supplimentary cooling (which needs it most ). This meant that the radiator had to be a twin pass one, with both inlet and outlet on the same side of the charge-cooler / thermostat pipework. So Pro-alloy came up trumps and made it for me and it arrives to put on the car tomorrow. Will post pictures up when I get in in the morning, as I've got to shoot now .
Old 07-09-2005, 04:37 PM
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Hmmmmm *strokes chin* Interesting ... Maybe this will become a standard item on Pro Alloys range, once testing has confirmed whether it works or not??
Old 07-09-2005, 04:38 PM
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Good stuff Mike, hope it works for the trip at least.

Nothing like these last minute moifications is there!
Old 07-09-2005, 04:45 PM
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Sounds like a nice mod,we await pics
Old 07-09-2005, 06:43 PM
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Yeah, I like the sound of that to!!
Old 07-09-2005, 06:46 PM
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sounds interesting
Old 07-09-2005, 06:48 PM
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Get them pics up asap m8
and if they make anymore i will have one
for the bling value of course
Old 08-09-2005, 07:40 AM
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Damo, yep it already has, the part number is MR007 .

Obviously the pictures have been taken with their intercooler set-up to give you an idea of dimensions / scale . May need your radiator lowering a fraction to enable fitting... .









As they say - every little helps - will be additional coolant volume as well as more air flow. It "may" even mean I don't have to box it all in (which will be a right pain in the arse to do - so the Pro-alloy boys would be relieved if this was the case ).

I hope it fits .
Old 08-09-2005, 07:55 AM
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so after 10 years of u winging about act issues we are now going to have 10 years of ect issues from you mike roflol
Old 08-09-2005, 07:59 AM
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Old 08-09-2005, 08:05 AM
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Tony,
The fun of owning a Cossie as far as I am concerned, is resolving these issues (even if they are self created ones ) .
Old 08-09-2005, 08:09 AM
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Old 08-09-2005, 08:11 AM
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warned you 5years ago on rsoc that atc issues at the expense of ect issues, ect was always a problem on our rs 500 when we raced in indonesia you are lucky you live in england ambient temps were 42 deg c + fook the car some one cool me down lol.
Next you'l be down at williams wind tunnel
Old 08-09-2005, 08:14 AM
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A to E you working your way down the alphabet mike heven help us when you get to P
act to ect to PMT roflol
Old 08-09-2005, 08:23 AM
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Shame you haven't offered any constructive advice as you have experienced so much .
Old 08-09-2005, 08:28 AM
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I like that, presumably those pics were taken before they welded some brackets onto it... I reckon thats gotta be more effective than the turbo return one??
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mike would you listen or would you just want to debate the advice lol.
My advice is to copy an rs 500
air damming is critical there must be at least a 10mm cap between rad and intercooler ,the rad must have this gap sealed to the intercooler.
If you remove the intercooler altogether ect will be fine
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
As they say - every little helps - will be additional coolant volume as well as more air flow. It "may" even mean I don't have to box it all in...............I hope it fits .
Mike, to quote a famous gay icon: "TEST dont guess"

I want a full ECT report on my desk after the ring trip
Old 08-09-2005, 08:41 AM
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Mike Rainbird,
I'm glad i thought of this mod ...aren't you!!!
Old 08-09-2005, 08:42 AM
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Turbosystems,
the rad must have this gap sealed to the intercooler.
How would you go about doing this?
Old 08-09-2005, 08:47 AM
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Damo V, you can buy foam draught sealer strips which are sticky on one side.. most diy stores have them
Old 08-09-2005, 08:49 AM
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take a look at an original rs500
Old 08-09-2005, 08:49 AM
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How would you go about doing this?
duct tape
Old 08-09-2005, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
mike would you listen or would you just want to debate the advice lol.
My advice is to copy an rs 500
air damming is critical there must be at least a 10mm cap between rad and intercooler ,the rad must have this gap sealed to the intercooler.
If you remove the intercooler altogether ect will be fine
My name isn't Phil .

There is already at least a 10mm gap (more like 20mm). I know I have to seal this in and will do so over the winter (or Wayne and the lads will ).


Doug, so what do you think I am doing then ? And thanks for replying to my text message about the speakers (not).


Wayne,
Good job I have a copy of all the email exchanges, as you said it was such a good idea you would claim it as your own . Perhaps I should be in charge of your R&D ?
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looks a nice piece of kit

Matt
Old 08-09-2005, 08:52 AM
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mike you clearly have ect issues lol
switch the heater on it will cost u nothing
Old 08-09-2005, 08:56 AM
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Tony,
I HAVE to already do this, or the temp at the back of the head would exceed 110°C .
Old 08-09-2005, 08:56 AM
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Good luck mike

Could have put a serious setup in there to stop these issues lol
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
And thanks for replying to my text message about the speakers (not)...
No name displayed Mike..........so I could not be ar*ed to reply

Answer: Mission NOT Warfedale
Old 08-09-2005, 08:58 AM
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Martin,
There is absolutely NO more room for ANYTHING else after this, so I don't know what else I could have done .
Old 08-09-2005, 08:59 AM
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cut the front end off .... worked a treat on my car lol
Old 08-09-2005, 09:01 AM
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I thought Harvey didn't "do" aftermarket radiators?
Old 08-09-2005, 09:06 AM
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He had to after I PROVED to him that the standard one wasn't up to the job with the intercooler in the way. The Pro-alloy / Radtec one is better at low speed, but no different at high speed, which proves it is an air-flow issue... However, the recovery rate of the standard one is quicker than the alloy ones. The supplimentary radiator is intended to be a "band aid" to get me past the weekend, not a fix (which will require sealing in the whole system to ensure air is not deflected around the radiator).
Old 08-09-2005, 09:17 AM
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take a look at an original rs500
Dont have one to hand.....

you can buy foam draught sealer strips which are sticky on one side.. most diy stores have them
I'll try that then thank you
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paint it all black then mike like a std rs500 with the correct paint of course not dulux non drip.
Old 08-09-2005, 12:49 PM
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to add to uncle tonys advice mike......change the car for an rs500 but make sure you take some driving lessons first

praise the lord theres no islands on the nurburgring
Old 08-09-2005, 12:59 PM
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Matt,
There is just before the entrance - make sure you go round it the correct way - the amount of times I've seen Brits forget which country they're in .
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Originally Posted by Pro Alloy Motorsport
Damo V, you can buy foam draught sealer strips which are sticky on one side.. most diy stores have them
Best you get some in ready .
Old 08-09-2005, 03:28 PM
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Mike Rainbird, does it fit??
looked a little tall to me......
If it dosen't fit I will reveal to the world that it was actually your idea!!
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Originally Posted by Pro Alloy Motorsport
Mike Rainbird, does it fit??
looked a little tall to me......
If it dosen't fit I will reveal to the world that it was actually your idea!!
roflol


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