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Old 04-09-2005, 11:56 AM
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Default 205 gti - 1.9

Anyone had any experience with these?

I've currently been on the look out for a Fiesta (1.8 16v) but a few peeps have mention a 1.9 GTi.

It will only be used at the weekends when I deicede to go and explore some country lanes and been told the 205 would be more fun.

Any comments on handling/ease of maintaince would be great

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Old 04-09-2005, 11:58 AM
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My mate used to have a 205 gti 1.9 and it was a superb car mate ,handling is superb and pure go-kart fun ,very quick little car and a hoot to drive !!

Go for it ,id have one as a wee fun car !!
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how much can you pick one up for that's not going to fall to bits ?
Old 04-09-2005, 12:15 PM
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there are a few solid ones round here going for 650 - 700 quid
Old 04-09-2005, 12:25 PM
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205 the best hot hatch ever made, and prob gonna keep that title.
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Awesome cars, mate even the 1.6 is shit hot


Awesome handling
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positive feed back on them i see!

What are they like for ease to work on - compared to say a fiesta? We dont have a garage so everythings done on a south london ghetto road!
Old 04-09-2005, 12:32 PM
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From what i heard would have to be Gti
Old 04-09-2005, 12:36 PM
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Thing is though I know those zetec xr2i's very well.

Its a case of stick with what you know or try something new...

Thing is is a 205's handling really that much better than a 2i?
Old 04-09-2005, 01:14 PM
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Thing is is a 205's handling really that much better than a 2i?
Yes, really. Be wary of lowered ones tho and also due to the age they are worn heavily but find a good'n and there is no comparision to the festa.

Suffer idle problems and headgaskets are known to go. Pretty simple engine tho.
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BTW i have regular use of a 1.9, a 182 cliosport, focus RS and a 1.7 puma. The others are better cars but for a blast down some proper twisties id take the 205 everytime.
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lovely cheers for the info.

Are there any specific points chassis / susspension wise i should look out for when looking at one to buy?
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Had 2! A 1.6 and a 1.9, if anything the 1.6 handled better, wasn't trying to yank itself off the road as much as the 1.9. They do lift off oversteer all day round bends too, can make you nip a bit.
1.9 quite a bit quicker though, had a play with my mate in his S1 RST(this was 14 years ago! ) and my 1.9 absolutely pissed it, don't even think about comparing the handling of a FWD Ford with a 205. There is NO comparison. Pug everytime.
Downside is that they are made of paper and don't age very well. Check EVERYWHERE for rot, especially sills/rear quarter joints. Engines are simple enough if a little cramped to work on. And the interiors don't wear too well. If you get a half decent exhaust they sound sweet too.
Find a good one and you'll love it!
Old 04-09-2005, 01:44 PM
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Ive recently sold my 1.9gti which had an MI16 engine in and it was fantastic

look for one with MI already done or at least think about it for the future


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http://gtiowners.co.uk/forum/index.php


give that web site a looking over u will find alot off usefull stuff there
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Originally Posted by jonnyfrst
http://gtiowners.co.uk/forum/index.php


give that web site a looking over u will find alot off usefull stuff there
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I am in the process of buying one as a track car, should pick it up next week
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I am in the process of buying one as a track car, should pick it up next week
An NMS pug?
Old 04-09-2005, 03:29 PM
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I think they are fantastic! Great fun, cheap, and go well!

I brought mine because it was a cheap car, turned out to be probably the most fun i've had out of a car

They are fragile though, bits break on them, and you get the odd electrical gremlin, but to be fair the newest 205 Gti you'll be able to find will be about 11 years old now so not uncommon with any old car. but they don't suffer with the rot bug really, not compared with Ford's as someone thought to galvenise them!!

106XSis with a Gti engine coversion are well worth a look as well, they handle brilliantly, probably better, are cheap to buy (unlike a 106GTi) and are newer so less crusty all round. My mate has recently done a 14.9 with his standard engine'd 1.6 16v XSi with the gti engine. Made 150bhp at Jamsport as well, with some mapping!!
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Originally Posted by Paul J
I am in the process of buying one as a track car, should pick it up next week
An NMS pug?
Not THE NMS Pug, but it will be in a few weeks

Sticker Paul, Fire up that Sticker machine
Old 04-09-2005, 03:34 PM
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Mate is on his 4th one now!

they are Good out the box (especially the 1900s)
Lift off oversteer is a killer on them cos they so short!!

Watch out for electrical probelms on them (terrible for it)

Also, Rear beam bushes let go and the wheels tend to sit at funny angles
when that happens.

when they are right, they are pretty solid (if a bit rattely)
little cars!

the one me and my mate have done is a bit different now though
202bhp goes nice now for his track car!
Old 04-09-2005, 03:53 PM
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Do it!! It will make you look like this

as soon as i fix and sell my little 106xs runaround - I'll be looking for another 205 GTi
As for reliability - I had a 1.6 for 5 years and it was faultless (although it was only 3 years old when I got it).

I replaced it with a 16v Golf that broke down EVERY bloody time I drove the piece of shit.
Old 04-09-2005, 04:22 PM
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Fantastic cars.

We've had 7 between us over the past few years, and I personally ran a 1.9 as my everyday car for three years with almost faultless reliability.

Very easy to service and care for - the only issues are rear torsion bars that have seized if the car's been sat.

I've never paid more than Ł500 for one, and we've had everything from 1 owner 30k cars, to hige mileage smokers.

Pic of my brother's one in action

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awsome cars!!!! i had a 1.6 as my first car

my mates just got hold of a sorrento green one(rare as fook!!!!) fitted with an mi16 engine and carbs from a yamaha r1!!!!!!!!

torquey as fook!!! and sounds the bollox

goin on ebay tonite
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used to have a1.9 with a 150 hp engine in and a 1.6 gearbox, wnet like fook and itys the ONLY front drive car ive ever driven that you can do 4 wheel drifts in

had a superchip, cam, magnex tubular manifold and full system and full AA relay

here is the old dog the best colour aswell

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So the general opinion is to get one of these over another fiesta?
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So the general opinion is to get one of these over another fiesta?
Landslide id say.

Not THE NMS Pug, but it will be in a few weeks
Will be a weapon
Old 04-09-2005, 06:37 PM
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http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WWW...00534205466655

Only 2 miles from me! Gotta be worth a look!
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aye they are wkd fun, ive just bought a mi16 with full rollcage, buckets etc.
took it on the twisties yesterday and fuck me it flies!

electrics are a nightmare on them, but other than that seems fine - bit leaky but rot should not be an issue at all contary to above
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I'd go a bit more expensive and a 1.9 rather than that one mate. Get one at around 1 - 1.5K that is in clean condition. Love the Miami blue and the odd light greenn colour ones.

Top cars, nothing comes close to them
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check out http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/ you may have to register but its alot bigger and busier than thw forum mentioned above.

oh and id go for a 205 aswell cracking cars.
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Here is a pic of the NMS 205 GTi TURBO





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bet thats shifts!!!!
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Originally Posted by xr2fatturbo
bet thats shifts!!!!
It has been known to
Old 08-09-2005, 09:13 PM
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Had a 16v XR2i and would pick the pug anyday over it. Wasn't a bad car apart from the usual Ford rust, but the Pug is much better
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Originally Posted by Dave Henshall
and itys the ONLY front drive car ive ever driven that you can do 4 wheel drifts in
Me too until i drove the new Mk5 Golf GTI 2litre turbo

Mega mega grip (ie 85mph+ showing while circling roundabout) and then push it so hard front end loses grip, let off a bit and back end comes round too, 4wheel drift and filthy/shocked looks from other motorists

Love it
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ive seen that mi turbo on the 205 drivers forum must be a beast, considering selling mine to finance a s16 turbo engine.
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mate had a 1.9 bored out to the limit bulider said it would not last long
so enjoy it while you can flying machine

the sunroof blew off on are way too newquey ..but what a weekend

lucifers THE CLUB ...RULES ...that was many moons AGO
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mark

uve got a toy there

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I would get one over a Fiesta, as you won't have to worry about rust for a start!

But it's not all gravy with them, mechnically to work on, they are fiddly, and awkward compared with anything uncle henry has made. And like people have said the electronics on them can be a nightmare, they are complex, mine had a judder under load for about six months until I tracked it down to the airflow meter......Personally I think they are quite fragile, and that includes the engine.....

But over all, they well worth the hassle, because they reward you with a lot of cheap laughs for the money! and they truely are great cars, so you end up letting them off the hook when they let you down e.g. like when the central locking packs up 2 days after fixing it


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