How much to build a Grp A/WRC Escos???
22-08-2005, 06:11 PM
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How much to build a Grp A/WRC Escos???
....looking at a shell tommorrow with a view to making an actual grp a/wrc car....down to the actual engine spec to...300 and a bit BHP 
How much you reckon NOT INCLUDING shell or engine to get it to tarmac spec?
..thinking about it 500 ft/lb anti lag etc would make a stunning road car
How much you reckon NOT INCLUDING shell or engine to get it to tarmac spec?
..thinking about it 500 ft/lb anti lag etc would make a stunning road car
22-08-2005, 06:22 PM
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Yum....unfortunately i am not allowed to buy it..Reyland said this in a previous post when someone mentioned it 
BUT in anycase its too far away plus i am looking at a used shell as opposed to new as i am not many of money
BUT in anycase its too far away plus i am looking at a used shell as opposed to new as i am not many of money
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22-08-2005, 06:29 PM
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Pon is that "new" prices or second hand????
Gareth.......i thinks its a Grp A car or clubman???Its RHD anyway with some goodies....really depends on condition...i dont want to do major bodywork...lets wait and see..always fancied a rally car...is ICE allowed in a rally car?
Gareth.......i thinks its a Grp A car or clubman???Its RHD anyway
with some goodies....really depends on condition...i dont want to do major bodywork...lets wait and see..always fancied a rally car...is ICE allowed in a rally car?
22-08-2005, 07:29 PM
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If it's right hand drive then it's more than likely going to be a clubman is it not? 
Might be a converted LHD shell tho!
You'll have to ask the owner Phil!
Might be a converted LHD shell tho!You'll have to ask the owner Phil!
22-08-2005, 07:30 PM
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Why build a car with parts to the spec of a proper grp 'a' rally car and not use them as intended? i'm not being sarcy it would just be a waste of money...
The major difference between a proper grp'a' or wrc and anything else is the time and money spent in the r & d after the part has been destroyed, generally in Cyprus or Kenya..then and only then is it over engineered to withstand the punishment...this punishment is usually only found in particularly rough terrain or hot countires, or both....
If your building a grp'a' or wrc rally car it needs to be rallied or not bother imo....
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The major difference between a proper grp'a' or wrc and anything else is the time and money spent in the r & d after the part has been destroyed, generally in Cyprus or Kenya..then and only then is it over engineered to withstand the punishment...this punishment is usually only found in particularly rough terrain or hot countires, or both....
If your building a grp'a' or wrc rally car it needs to be rallied or not bother imo....
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22-08-2005, 07:36 PM
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If your building a grp'a' or wrc rally car it needs to be rallied or not bother imo....
If your building a grp'a' or wrc rally car it needs to be rallied or not bother imo....
AHMEN to that ian
phil get one built - youve just hired a driver
let me know when its ready , get it through scrutineering and ill meet you on the stage start
22-08-2005, 07:46 PM
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Is this just like the time you were going to build a 700bhp 200 mph cossie without help from any of the overpriced tuners??? Then take it to brunters and show everyone you're the king?
22-08-2005, 07:46 PM
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jesus wept, more phil dreams
50k+ for TRUE W.R.C. spec
proper transmission with proper active diffs aint feckin cheap, never mind the wide track suspension etc etc etc
and 500lb/ft+ on mega oxygenated mega det resistant race gas, you gonna run that all the time are you?
thought you said road car?
50k+ for TRUE W.R.C. spec
proper transmission with proper active diffs aint feckin cheap, never mind the wide track suspension etc etc etc
and 500lb/ft+ on mega oxygenated mega det resistant race gas, you gonna run that all the time are you?
thought you said road car?
22-08-2005, 08:03 PM
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Why build a restricted car if you're not going to race it
If you really want one, just buy one, there are several GpA/WRC tarmac spec cars available, just flash the cash and they can be yours
If you really want one, just buy one, there are several GpA/WRC tarmac spec cars available, just flash the cash and they can be yours
22-08-2005, 08:15 PM
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I dont think Richard will be selling that car now Gareth...actually put a capsule on it last friday before Angelsey...still a beatiful car....one of my favorites....
22-08-2005, 08:23 PM
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Some idea of the spec of these cars........i.e. lots of expensive bits 
Probably one of the only full genuine GPA cars left still 100% competive in the right hands and 1 day could
be a major historic winner
Group A Escort Cosworth L366 DAX
Built new by Dennis Osborne D.O.M.E in approx 1996 for Serdar Bostanci
The car was sponsored by Ford and BP / Mobil 1
Winning car of Turkish and Greek open championship.
909 shell, full Ford works spec (FMC)
R+D cage
Mountune engine
Gemini/FFD 7 speed gearbox with HBR
Twin T6 ECUs
ALS anti-lag with launch control
Water injection
GPA turbo 247 (quick release)
Bag tank
Twin switchable fuel pumps
Brand new seats and belts
Full GPA tarmac suspension
OZ superlite wheels
AP brakes 6 pots front, 4pots rear
Pectel dash (works with T6)
Adjustable pedal box
Diff coolers
Heated front screen
Electronic fire system
Peltor intercom system
wide track
oil cooled diffs
bonnet pod
All parts are GPA!
This is not a kit car with some GPA/N parts.
Probably one of the only full genuine GPA cars left still 100% competive in the right hands and 1 day could
be a major historic winner
Group A Escort Cosworth L366 DAX
Built new by Dennis Osborne D.O.M.E in approx 1996 for Serdar Bostanci
The car was sponsored by Ford and BP / Mobil 1
Winning car of Turkish and Greek open championship.
909 shell, full Ford works spec (FMC)
R+D cage
Mountune engine
Gemini/FFD 7 speed gearbox with HBR
Twin T6 ECUs
ALS anti-lag with launch control
Water injection
GPA turbo 247 (quick release)
Bag tank
Twin switchable fuel pumps
Brand new seats and belts
Full GPA tarmac suspension
OZ superlite wheels
AP brakes 6 pots front, 4pots rear
Pectel dash (works with T6)
Adjustable pedal box
Diff coolers
Heated front screen
Electronic fire system
Peltor intercom system
wide track
oil cooled diffs
bonnet pod
All parts are GPA!
This is not a kit car with some GPA/N parts.
22-08-2005, 08:23 PM
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..PF i salute you yet again! Yes i am a cock and a dreamer i have no money to do this...... 
Damn me and my mouth Itsmeagain...i dream?
I have ...your the dreamer sonny jim
22-08-2005, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ImaRacing 700
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PF and its users you are the KINGS
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=138360
Thats the Fantasy post Phil
22-08-2005, 09:36 PM
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Track Car
Hi ImaRacing 700
Why not buy this 340bhp car fom me for £8500 or £8800 with a K plate road id, V5 and chassis plates? This is the bargin of the century for such a well sorted and reliable escort cosworth. You could upgrade the car once you have got used to it?
Thanks
Bob
Why not buy this 340bhp car fom me for £8500 or £8800 with a K plate road id, V5 and chassis plates? This is the bargin of the century for such a well sorted and reliable escort cosworth. You could upgrade the car once you have got used to it?
Thanks
Bob
22-08-2005, 10:26 PM
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So first you gob off about having too much BHP, can't use these sorta cars and what not and now you want to build a Grp.A/WRC car?
My God you ARE full of shit aren't you Phil?
With regards to cost: if you have to check how much the ferrari srvice is before deciding to buy it and if you can't afford a mad spec. car like you mentioned earlier then you certainly can't afford to build a grp.A or WRC car!
On the other hand it doesn't really matter does? You're not gonna do it anyway!
My God you ARE full of shit aren't you Phil?
With regards to cost: if you have to check how much the ferrari srvice is before deciding to buy it and if you can't afford a mad spec. car like you mentioned earlier then you certainly can't afford to build a grp.A or WRC car!
On the other hand it doesn't really matter does? You're not gonna do it anyway!
22-08-2005, 10:30 PM
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Phil,
Why would you want a car that handles with lots of power, when you
a) don't do trackdays
b) say that the Ferrari has all the power and pefect handling setup for the road
c) are a bit of a gimp
Why would you want a car that handles with lots of power, when you
a) don't do trackdays
b) say that the Ferrari has all the power and pefect handling setup for the road
c) are a bit of a gimp
22-08-2005, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Phil,
Why would you want a car that handles with lots of power, when you
a) don't do trackdays
b) say that the Ferrari has all the power and pefect handling setup for the road
c) are a bit of a gimp
Why would you want a car that handles with lots of power, when you
a) don't do trackdays
b) say that the Ferrari has all the power and pefect handling setup for the road
c) are a bit of a gimp
He's a full blown nugget!
23-08-2005, 05:52 PM
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sibster,
stunning machine,,, its been in my favs for ages
Porkie,
i cant believe noone has snapped it up for that money,,, would make a wicked track day dar, (of cause an even better race machine) 
I dont think Richard will be selling that car now Gareth...actually put a capsule on it last friday before Angelsey...still a beatiful car....one of my favorites....
Porkie,
WOW, thats sooo much car for the money!
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