Mike1

Anyone had one of these as a small 5-door family car? Are there any particular benefits for either the 210bhp or 225bhp versions (apart from the power difference! ). They seem pretty quick compared to a Cossie but quite useful over a lot of other hot hatches as they have the rear doors. I could ask this on a Seat Forum ( as someone will observe I'm sure ) but I find you get a less "loaded" view on a forum not particularly to do with the marque.
Are they economical on the motorway with the long 6th gear?
I seem to remember it did OK on 5th Gear even compared to Focus RS?

rsdene

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Awesome car mate,

my mates got one goes like a rocket, handles really well too. brembo brakes 225 bhp what more could you want.

Mike1

Are the coil pack problems a thing of the past as all the dodgy ones been replaced? Any more opinions?

Jimboxr4x4

My mate has the Cupra 20v turbo (about 178 ish bhp) and thats pretty nice. The 225 bhp must go like a rocket. They handle nice and have excellent brakes. Look nice as well.

markk

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hi, the leon is a good alrounder , they have there probs - nothing major tbh hold on tho if your buying the prices are going to drop in the next couple of months - ive driven the new one

RS Grant

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Remap easily to 270bhp and near 300ft/lb.... Nice looking cars too!!


Cheers,
Grant

markk

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as long as you dont believe teh revo bullshit figures

ian rst

My mates dad owns a seat garage and he took me out in one which was chipped up, this thing flew very tempted to get one. As other peeps have said big brakes big wheels (18's) nice power.

DanRSturbo

My m8 had the 210 model, very nice car, lot's of toys in it, much better then the audi S3 imo, looks nicer too. Awesome brakes on it, nice comfortable ride, the climate control is a tool

RS Grant

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Nah, AMD and Jabba also quote gains in the region of 270/300.


Cheers,
Grant

markk

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ive never seen a genuine graph for these serial port tuners that quote these figure with no other mods tho - just a lot of pub guesstimates

RS Grant

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Well a friend got his Ibiza Cupra TDi PD160 re-mapped using Revo Software they were quoting 195bhp and around 300ft/lb..... End result IIRC was 205bhp and 304ft/lb.

Lots of the peeps over on www.seatcupra.net have had re-maps and have got the same bhp that was quoted before they bought, give or take a few bhp or lb/ft here or there.


Cheers,
Grant

rabmc

Funny this is just had a race with one on the by-pass (he was well up for it) passed him at a fair rate , but it went okk then slowed down to come to roundabout , then we went for it from standing start and the cossie destroyed it but it was probably standardish and it was shifty by the looks , and will be more reliable than my cossie the guy was okk pulled up next to me and asked what power i had and that he could not get near me , but fair play to him he tried great looking car

Oranoco

Mate has a 1.8T sport A4 with a JabbaSport conversion and that went very well with only 201bhp so I would think the Leon will go like buggery. Look quite cool as well but I would rather have the A3 as it just looks a far more classy car. Just my opinion though

markk

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been on there, and liek i say, tis full of bullshit figures all banded round by the sellers that the people who buy it believe

i see them on a regular basis day in and day out , so to say ive had a bit of experiance may be a small understatement, the best ones are the ones that come in running rough , after a while they are forced to tell me they have been 'serial port chipped' (enter tuner name in the quotes to suit) and they tell me its cost them Ł400 to have it done, was ok for a few months ( if there lucky) , then i flash the whole ecu back to std and hey presto - cars sweet - take heed

RS Grant

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lol... Advice heeded!

Why would it last for a few months then things go tits up mate?!


Cheers,
Grant

markk

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i dont know mate , thats the longest time ive seen them last some are only hours, and then theres teh 'trial chips'

RS Grant

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Aye, the chips that you get to try for a few hours before you buy... My mate got one of these before he bought his re-map on the Ibiza!!

I thought it felt quicker with the "Trial Chip" in it than it does now re-mapped.. do they have slightly higher boost etc to make it feel quicker??


Cheers,
Grant

RS Ben

Ive got one, clocked up 13,000 in 6 months averages around 30 on motorway when on speed limit obviously. Driving to and from work Harrogate to York averages 33-36mpg on a normal A road traffic. B road swift journey home gets me between 28 and 30mpg.

Had no problems with it at all and its got all the handling ability i'll ever need. I know new model comes out in september october time so current model should drop.

Hope that helps

Ben

markk

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all sales plans mate

the trials actually use a diferant part of the chip than the remap so they also present there own problems after the time span runs out - but thats another story.


new model is very nice and very technical in its class, but dont worry about the price of the cupra r dropping yet as the new replacement hasnt even been built, looking like 2007 for the new leon cupra r, just watch out for the fr diesels 1st

RS Grant

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Thanks for the info mate..... Have always assumed that these were safe as houses cause all you ever hear about is the success stories, never hear about the ones that go wrong!!?


Cheers,
Grant

RS Ben

Not heard of any of the later ones going wrong. I was previously warned about the gearboxes on earlier ones but not seen any examples. As for mine it clocks up the miles and hasnt missed a beat. Seriously can't fault it.

RS Grant

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Is yours Re-Mapped Ben?? Cause was talking about the reliability of the ones that have had their ECU's re-flashed....


Cheers,
Grant

RS Ben

No sorry fella, mines standard out the box. Should have said that before. Its enough fun for me as is, or is that it eats the front tyres enough as is

RS Grant

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Fook that, 18's wont be the cheapest to replace!!


Cheers,
Grant

markk

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about every 15k taking it easy ? and discs and pads too at round about that mileage not cheap them brembos

RS Ben

Luckily havent had to replace disks and pads yet, but yeah expecting a large bill when i do have to. Tyres cheapest I found Pirrelli P zero rosso at 225x40x18 is Ł105 each so i dont think thats to bad is it? Tyres are just about on limit now, they lost alot of rubber in winter, new car clutch bite (honest), dumb ass driver n wet = spinning wheels up to third without even trying to look like a prat.

Rob84

a mate has one, with a supposed 270bhp remap from j****sport....and it couldnt shake off another mates 180bhp Prelude VTEC. well it pulled away, but not enough to believe it had a further 90bhp and proberbly twice the torque

as markk says, mostly pub talk

JohnP001

I had a go with one the other day. My Escort Cossie is 330 BHP, and out of the roundabout he took off, pulled into the slow lane and caned it. It was a fair match, but I was gaining on him very slowly. Pulled up at the next roundabout, and he winds his window down, and we have a quick chat. Great that my car is LHD so could talk. He say’s to me, your car goes quite well. I ask him if his is standard, and he laughs, and say no. As I pull off, I spot the Gumball 3000 sticker on the front bumper. I would have loved to stop and look under the bonnet, but work was calling.

Mint FRST

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... a Cupra R and it runs on derv but it dont got that bad round the track

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JohnP001

The one I had a go with had wider tyres, and was a lot lower than the one above.

Mint FRST

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That because mines a Cupra and not a Cupra R. The Rs have different bumpers and 18" wheels.

Note I added the pic because it makes me laugh especially as mine is a Company Car

Madmile

I reckon the average chipped Lcr will see 260bhp. Custom remaps are preferable to generic maps. Warranty issues are the reason for using the serial port tuning. It can be switched back to stnd for warranty work etc.

Lcr is a great car and i would have one tomorrow if there were enough big turbo kits available to take it to 350-400bhp.

mrviper

dont thease cars gave a rearly high compression ratio ?

markk

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9.5:1 pal wouldnt call it really high tho

mrviper

that makes me feel better about my 9:1 with my zetec turbo thats not been mapped yet

Madmile

Compression on the ibiza cupra is 9:5:1 on the 210/225 Lcr/s3/TT engines its 8:5:1.

I am running 350bhp in an Ibiza cupra 1.8t 20v running stock internals.

markk

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no its not pal - it 9.5:1 on the 225

Madmile

www.jabbasport.co.uk

click turbo kits, then click technical spec in the bottom right. There claiming 9:5.1 for the lower spec 1.8t engines and 9:0.1 for the 225 Lcr etc. They are vag experts.

markk

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very debatable that pal

i will check for certain , deffo in the 9's tho