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Old 27-06-2004, 09:29 AM
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Hi
I believe i have challenged the NMS car to be at Brunters on the same day as Mark attemps the Topspeed record.
Everyone seems to think there Cossie is the fastest, so why not find out it seems easy.
Im sure Karl is not slagging off Mark or his cars & i certainly aint having a go at NMS, but it would be nice to see facts & not just talk.
My own car will be putting it on the line within a few days of its completion at totb3, it will give an indication of its potential at that event.
I will be leaving this scene at 60 (not far away) so this is my final attempt & it would be sad if these two fine cars did not battle it out for RWD supremacy.
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Hi
I believe i have challenged the NMS car to be at Brunters on the same day as Mark attemps the Topspeed record.
Everyone seems to think there Cossie is the fastest, so why not find out it seems easy.
Im sure Karl is not slagging off Mark or his cars & i certainly aint having a go at NMS, but it would be nice to see facts & not just talk.
Rod
ah men lets see the daddy
Old 27-06-2004, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by popeye
better get my brakes sorted then
are you after brakes pops,ap 4 pots available if so

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Old 27-06-2004, 11:58 AM
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new pads and disc's is all i want
and i have had a new set in my cupboard that have been sitting there for 3 years.think its time to change them
Old 27-06-2004, 12:15 PM
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First I've heard about this.

The interesting thing here is what are we actually trying to compare? Most cars/engines I do are T34 cars because thats the budget the owners have to work to. If you take all these cars and put them head to head with Ranj's and Rods then we have a little disparity in the specs. The only cars to be compared to their cars are mine, Daz's dolomite, and SeanB's escort.

Sean's and Daz's wont be ready for a few months yet (i.e. engines not yet running + mapping + running in etc).

As such surely we should have a big bash of cars that are all of similar spec and see how they get on.

i.e. get lots of tuners T34 cars and run them head to head, and then in the future we can have a mine/daz/seans V Rod/ranj.
Old 27-06-2004, 12:19 PM
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karl you know i'll put mine against anything
Old 27-06-2004, 12:21 PM
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I "think" Rod wants Mark to race YOU Karl.

Thats how i read it anyway.


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Old 27-06-2004, 12:22 PM
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owners only
Old 27-06-2004, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by popeye
owners only
Old 27-06-2004, 12:33 PM
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its the CARS performance were interested in, not the DRIVERS!

well thats all i'm interested in anyway!
Old 27-06-2004, 12:38 PM
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karls idea is quite a good one.

2 engine specs exactly them same apart from mapping and head work.

thats would be interesting.

then its purely down to tuners not the customers budget.

obviously the tuners would have to drive the cars.

but isnt all this a bit pointless whats it going to prove?
Old 27-06-2004, 12:39 PM
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but MR Singh
whats the point in having a good car if you cant drive it fast

bit like me taking you on in my mondy,im still gonna win
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it proves nothing ryan

cos it comes down to who is the better driver

thats why i would love to put mine against a higher spec car
Old 27-06-2004, 12:48 PM
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Karls car vs Rods car would be good.

Times from Karls car fullstop wouldbe good
Old 27-06-2004, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by popeye
but MR Singh
whats the point in having a good car if you cant drive it fast

bit like me taking you on in my mondy,im still gonna win
i agree but thats not what were on about here! we wanna know whos is fastest/quickest out of the cars

you gunna ram raid me off the road
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no make you stop for some fags in the corner shop
Old 27-06-2004, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by popeye
whats the point in having a good car if you cant drive it fast
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Most can drive their car fast, but i know Mark can drive mine faster & the aim is to win, simple really. Mark will drive mine in a straight line at totb3, but i may have just lined up a proper driver to do the handling circuit, again the aim is to win.
Put your Dad in yours & i will go against him , im 30years past my best .
Rod
Old 27-06-2004, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Originally Posted by popeye
whats the point in having a good car if you cant drive it fast
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Most can drive their car fast, but i know Mark can drive mine faster & the aim is to win, simple really. Mark will drive mine in a straight line at totb3, but i may have just lined up a proper driver to do the handling circuit, again the aim is to win.
Put your Dad in yours & i will go against him , im 30years past my best .
Rod
isnt TOTB to be a good driver having a good car? instead of letting other people drive your car???

not a dig mate
Old 27-06-2004, 03:25 PM
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TOTB is the ten best cars, not the ten best drivers..

At the end of the day, it's just like a private racing team.. the person putting the capital forward doesn't drive the race car, so I can fully see where Rod is coming from!
Old 27-06-2004, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil
TOTB is the ten best cars, not the ten best drivers..

At the end of the day, it's just like a private racing team.. the person putting the capital forward doesn't drive the race car, so I can fully see where Rod is coming from!
Thanks mate thats the way i see it. I wonder how many races Ron Dennis would have won driving his cars.
For most Cossie owners totb3 is a big ego boost & a tesostorone trip, im older & maybe wiser, my aim is simple TO WIN, thats what will be remembered not a 60 year old also ran trying to be 25.
Rod
Old 27-06-2004, 03:46 PM
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i know where rods coming from, but for me, the fun of a car is driving it, and the battle to win.

but then again, its only 1 event, its not like you NEVER drive it, thats when its pointless owning it IMO. one day of not driving it is nothing, and if u want your CAR to be known as the fastest, then no harm there.
Old 27-06-2004, 04:03 PM
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Rod,

Did I read that right? You're gonna hire a driver to thrash your car round the TOTB handling circuit?

You're not serious?
Old 27-06-2004, 04:08 PM
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One 4x4 cos owner here.

Set up by Karl,will that count.

Will go against anyone else,you win you win,you lose you lose.



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Rod sells all his worldly possesions to hire schuey for the day, then still gets rinsed by the supras/skylines etc

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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
i know where rods coming from, but for me, the fun of a car is driving it, and the battle to win.

but then again, its only 1 event, its not like you NEVER drive it, thats when its pointless owning it IMO. one day of not driving it is nothing, and if u want your CAR to be known as the fastest, then no harm there.
Ive done 32k miles in it . I truly wish i could still do my car justice but i cant , my performance curve runs out well before the cars. Ive seen Mark shaking when Testing my car, when we first fitted Nitrous. Im on medication for seriously high blood pressure as most of my friends know & if my Doctor knew i was going to see my car on the Dyno soon it would be him having the heart attack . Driving at an event , your having a larf.
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Rod,

Did I read that right? You're gonna hire a driver to thrash your car round the TOTB handling circuit?

You're not serious?
Hire one , no way, I have friends. I hope he thrashes it or i wont be happy, its what its built for.
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It's fair to do that Rod, but you will get a lot of narrow minded/jealous people calling you every name under the sun for it

I hope everyone else sees it in a similar way to myself - apparently some people even enjoy concourse you know
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Originally Posted by Phil
It's fair to do that Rod, but you will get a lot of narrow minded/jealous people calling you every name under the sun for it

I hope everyone else sees it in a similar way to myself - apparently some people even enjoy concourse you know
Bit long in the tooth to worry about what others think , most have cars they think are fast but are actually slow old buses, that even i could max out. When i come to sell my car(soon) people will look at its achievments not who drives it .
Rod
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Rod,

I think the question most people are trying to ask in an arse about face way is why would someone spend all that money, all that time, all that stress etc etc to build a car for others to drive to try and prove some kinda of point/take a title which more or less means nothing outside the cossie world!!LOL

What kick/buzz do you get from it all ??

Cheers,

Dan
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Bring on "THE STIG" !
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I can see Rods point I have questioned why he doesnt drive in the past and he replied the same answer age ! I would rather see what a car is capable of than know I can not do it justice Im sure knowing he has helped engineer the UK fastest cossie will give him a small grin

his car his money his choice i think people forget that sometimes

Im sure Karl will also post times when he is ready and he is happy with his car
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Just raced a gsx1000 down the country roads....

COME ON.....mood I am in I challenge all the MAD cars on track
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Originally Posted by dingy
Just raced a gsx1000 down the country roads....

COME ON.....mood I am in I challenge all the MAD cars on track



He was only using his first 2 gears Dingster
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rod is urs the white saff?
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Keith, no mate, he was a shit rider IMHO.....

Kept looking over his shoulder at me LOL.....
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His mate was on a blade
When they pulled up at the junction Dingy dived out and nicked his dinner money
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Originally Posted by Karl
First I've heard about this.

The interesting thing here is what are we actually trying to compare? Most cars/engines I do are T34 cars because thats the budget the owners have to work to. If you take all these cars and put them head to head with Ranj's and Rods then we have a little disparity in the specs. The only cars to be compared to their cars are mine, Daz's dolomite, and SeanB's escort.


Sean's and Daz's wont be ready for a few months yet (i.e. engines not yet running + mapping + running in etc).


Ok if these 2 aint ready yet then how about yours, ur cars a spec
is on rods level



As such surely we should have a big bash of cars that are all of similar spec and see how they get on.

i.e. get lots of tuners T34 cars and run them head to head, and then in the future we can have a mine/daz/seans V Rod/ranj.
good idea
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Originally Posted by Dan@Gremlinnet.com
Rod,

I think the question most people are trying to ask in an arse about face way is why would someone spend all that money, all that time, all that stress etc etc to build a car for others to drive to try and prove some kinda of point/take a title which more or less means nothing outside the cossie world!!LOL

What kick/buzz do you get from it all ??

Cheers,

Dan
Can i turn that around Dan , why did you spend all that money & time to build a car that never performed & clearly didnt have even close to the Power it was supposed to have. Its a free world mate & i can spend my money on what i want, same as you. My car is not being entered by me , but M.A.Developments so i have no ego to polish , but i always do well at what i do & the Cosworth scene is no different, ive tee shirts older than most of you lads & with that comes experience im also an engineer of 40 years standing & i know my car will be the best prepared & i have total faith in Mark, we respect each other . THATS MY BUZZ Dan.

Rod
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Originally Posted by INVADER
rod is urs the white saff?
Its White yes.
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Originally Posted by dingy
Keith, no mate, he was a shit rider IMHO.....

Kept looking over his shoulder at me LOL.....
Looking over his shoulder and thinking........ why is that 30 yr old escort up my ringpeice


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