Rhys

Whats does everyone think?

Of course its a good thing if they stick to it!!! But wonder how much of it is down to the recent disaproval of the USA of the IRA dude to that killing. And since the war on Terror the US had stoped funding the IRA etc. Wonder if thats the real reason?

the strut brace

think they have just finally realised that if the goverment aint goin to bend to terrorist when a guys head gets chopped off they aint goin to bend to owt! much more to be achieved democratically

Rich_w

If you believe that they'll stop all the other non terrorist activitied you're dreaming. There'll still be drugs running, money laundering, protection rackets, prostitution etc etc etc

They just wont try and blow up Canary Wharf.

Ginge !

you forgot tax fraud too

nice plan that guy has though

Glass Eye

LMFAO had me worried,thought the title read, Ima ends ass camping

SimonT

There only doing it because there major source of funding, America, has dried up

Kam B

The USA used to fund the IRA? wtf, i h8 them, the US seem to fund all the 'terrorists' the US funded the taliban too, who knew that? wonder who the real terrorists are..


thats one set of terrorists dealt with, hope the rest get stoped too

tonyk

I would suggest people read up and understand the situation before they comment, the government did not contribute to sein fein/ira, it was the citizens cause as you know half of america claims to be half irish They thought, well most that they where donating to a legimate fund say like the labour party but obviously sein fein`s leaders are/where the ira leadership

morcheen

most yanks are a bit dim,and liked the idea of contributing to the fight against the big enemy,not really realising what they were funding,the ira of today should not be confused with the original ira,i think this is the image the yanks had,today they are just another type of mafia ,into any and all things to make money,i think they have been embarrassed into todays statement by all the events since 911.

Rhys

Yup Exactly mate And after 9/11 it started to bring it home and funding from USA start to slow, then it all come to a head with the Mcarthy trail imo. Because of that i think it has lead to this? Dunno if thats the cause but i think that.

Rich_w

The whole Robert McCartney thing is a load of shite. He was as much a criminal as the people that killed him. Yet people seem quite happy to forget this fact and hail him as a victim of the "troubles"

Graham S1

2nd topic I'm agreeing with Rich w's view.

Well, they can't really carry on can they, caused they get bombed by the US. Or us. Cause there terrorists.

Rhys

Rich i agree with you there, i never said he wasnt. AS he was somthing to do with the IRA anyway wasnt he?

Rich_w

EDITED: I was wrong.

Rhys

Know he was an angel, just wasnt sure what side he was, I thought he was CAtholic though Oh well prob wrong as havent really read up that good on it tbh.

See they are dismataling some of the bases today! Think it might be a bit early?

SimonT

If they do give it all up then fair play to them. about time i say.

Still a bit niffed at Americas "war on terror" considering they where one of the IRA's main funders.

The "cash drives" Gerry Adams used to go on and all these Americans cheering him on made my blood boil - and this was in the mid 90's.

Ah well that was all in the past. lets hope no more people die or get injured at the hands of the IRA.

Also - the "Real" IRA as they call themselevs have been very quiet latley. Whats going to happen with them?

Stavros

No more bombs, but all the IRA are these days are a criminal money making organisation like the Mafia etc now anyhow so no suprise

Paul_RS

iTrader: (4)

I think you all don't realise that the actual IRA haven't done anything in years. Its the PIRA and RIRA (Provisional and Real IRA) that are active and as far as i know they will not come under the IRA's statement.

EscortWRC

I'm not holding my breath.....

Rich_w

Actually, you were right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_McCartney_(murder_victim)

Cozzie Bhoy

The IRA statement has to be welcomed, As soon as the loyalist/unionist terrorists throw in the towel the sooner the people of the north can start to live in peace. Wouldn't it be great now if the Middle East could come to some agreement !

Alloy

Actually, those are what's called break away group's, but they are in essence the same thing. It basically is another name used to keep the main group ( IRA ) out of the lime light, don't get me wrong though, they are a different group, but they belong to the same "gang". For example, the IRA want to do a shooting that's going to make big headline's, the PIRA carry it out then claim it was them because most people are going to assume it was the IRA. That's how thing's work here mate.

EscortWRC

IMO, you'll never live long enough to see peace in the middle east

They are fighting about land that has a basis in religion and you're not going to get either side to change their opinion.

Alloy

As for the original headline, I call BS, the IRA came off with the same bollox about 10 or 11 years ago - did they stay true to their word? NO!

It is exactly what it say's on the tin, a statement. Nothing else. All it take's is one incident to happen the IRA will come out all gun's blazing.

morcheen

aint the two organisations on the other side fighting amongst themselves at the moment,they are all as bad as each other,and both sides no more than criminals in disguise.tit for tat ,will still go on.

EscortWRC

Yep, the Israelis are every bit the same as the Palestinians when it comes to being a bunch of terrorists. The only reasons that the international community has tolerance for their behavior is because they buy western weapons systems (big $$$ and political connections) and as soon as someone says that they are against Israel, they are automatically (wrongly or otherwise) labeled as 'anti-semetic'

I don't remember learning anywhere that I have to like or dislike certain cultures or religions based on their beliefs or customs. Its not automatically *anything* other than having your own opinion, and if its unpopular....so what!

morcheen

i agree,but the minute you say anything similar here,you are shouted down as some sort of racist ,and the debate is stopped in it's tracks.

GTechR

The Israelis waged a terrorist style conflict for years in Palastine...

I had a mate based in Ulster during the last ceasefire, decommision...blah blah blah whatever you wanna call it, and basically as far as he is concerned it was simply cuz they where loosing, special forces had virtually wiped out there hierachy, the only people they had where the idiots on street corners, the REAL boyos had been wiped out... There funds had been seezed and the Yanks had had a bollocking off Maggy.

So they declared Peace, during this Peace... Noraid (The American Charity), raised new funds, and the idiots on the street corners where shipped of to Libiya and trained in the art of terror, when everything was back upto speed... Bang, end off the peace!!

Maybe, I got it all wrong, but in my opinion, when it comes to religious hatred, it don't matter if it's Catholics and Protostants, Jews and Arabs, Muslims and well everyone so it seems... there will always be fanatisism and there will always be people willing to kill.

EscortWRC

It wouldn't be the first time I've been called (incorrectly) a racist or anti-semetic.....but I have reasons for my opinions that are based on personal experience, and those are not likely to change anytime soon. So I don't really give a shit about a little mudslinging my direction, I can take it.

Its been my experience that the ones screaming 'racism' the loudest, are themselves the biggest racists....but that's just *my* experience....YMMV (I cite Jesse Jackson, etc as examples)

I say just let 'em duke it out......last man standing and all that good stuff (wouldn't take long at all for it to get sorted out that way!!!)

Chipperx2

Ignore the American

As he is American he has little intelligence and thinks that the world is America, he can't see the world from a human perspective.

well mate guess who invented the TV, or the Telephone, or the forst computer. Or evan the Jet engine. All the things that therican way" lt built on, was developed in Europe

what have America developed, McDonalds, Cigarettes, Cola? and a president who can't evan tie his own shoelaces

EscortWRC

Ignore what part of my comments ?

Little intelligence....???? I"ll put my IQ and wit up against yours any day of the week. Just make sure you don't show up unarmed....it could get ugly.

Its great (but a bit naive) to have and pursue ideals, but they don't feed your family. Once you become responsible for someone other than yourself, I suspect that you might see the world a little differently. Esopecially when the government is taking more of YOUR paycheck to pay some lazy ass a welfare check just because they have their hand out.

For the absolute truth on the whole arab/israeli thing.....I couldn't care less. I don't believe in what either side is selling and if they wipe each other out, I won't miss either group.

stevieturbo

While the statement is to be welcomed, I would probably agree that there are financial reasons behind it, along with the fact most people are getting wise to Sinn Fein around the world, and that they are in fact terrorists, despite years of propoganda telling people otherwise.
And who knows what sort of deal Tony has done with these terrorists in order to bring about the statement.

As for their war on terror ?? Ive never heard such crap. If they were genuine, Sinn Fein/IRA would not, in any way be involved in government here.

Whats Tony's way of sorting Osama out ?? Is he going to invite him to sit in government in parliament with him ?? Or maybe Saddam ?? Tnoy would look well with them as his sidekicks.

Double standards. The majority of Sinn Fein should be jailed, for being members of the IRA, and organising terrorism and all the criminalities that go with it.

I'd also like to know how Gerry Adams etc are allowed into the US, given their links with terrorists. I know people who have wanted to go there for a family holiday, and immediately sent back home. No reason given.
Good honest people get sent home, how can the likes of him be allowed in ???

Guinnless

Including slavery.

Cozzie Bhoy

Wether you like it or not stevie, Sinn Fein have a mandate given to them by the people (the majority of nationalists) of the north to represent them in government. For years the Unionists had it all they're own way now that they have to share it they are throwing they're toys out of the cot.
I'm sure if the police had any evidence suggesting that the majority of Sinn Fein were in the IRA they would have them banged up.
Today, the majority of political parties down here in the Republic of Ireland derived from Sinn Fein and the Old IRA. Including Fianna Fail, The party now in government.
Now, i ain't getting involved in a debate over fenians and prods cause its going on over 800 years and i don't have that kind of time on my hands.

Chipperx2

EscortWRC, I used "he" in general terms


As for showing up unarmed, thats another thing most Americans haven't grasped yet, how to solve an arguement without a gun.

EscortWRC

Unarmed meant 'don't show up without your wits'

But if you didn't get that *simple* reference (showing up to a battle of wits unarmed....) I guess there is no point in you showing up at all.

Rhys

Chipperx2

EscortWRC, now your just talking shite.

If your views are such, that you can't learn from other peoples. Thats one of your presidents problems, his inability to see the world as a whole, not just a tool for him to get rich quick

Paul_RS

iTrader: (4)

I live in Bangor

What i'm saying is that IF and its only an IF the IRA wanted 'things' done the so called break away groups could still do them as the IRA can deny it has anything to do with them.

Anyhooo its the Loyalists at the minute and the UVF LVF feud. Seems a bit of a coincidence to me that the IRA statement come out just when the loyalists are kicking off, maybe they are trying to score brownie points?