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Old 29-06-2005 | 03:03 PM
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Im with you Jase!

Some ppl do spnd far to much time on the net!

Ok I may have a boat load of posts but i aint anywhere near a computer after 5.30 mon-fri or on weekends! far to much to do! like drinkin sleepin herassing young women!
Old 29-06-2005 | 03:05 PM
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AFPMSL nice one steve
Old 29-06-2005 | 03:29 PM
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Lesson to be learnt, stay away from scorned women and skyline owners.
Old 29-06-2005 | 03:33 PM
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Lesson to be learnt, stay away from scorned women and skyline owners.
... and Westy, never forget to stay away from him!

Westy your closer to a ban than I am, no Kermit or sig now for what, 2 weeks!
Old 29-06-2005 | 03:34 PM
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Can't say nothing now

Thats funny tho!
Old 29-06-2005 | 03:59 PM
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Old 29-06-2005 | 04:04 PM
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Old 29-06-2005 | 04:09 PM
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Whats porkie doing on there aswell? traitor
Old 29-06-2005 | 04:39 PM
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I saw him on there too mate, obviously keeping an eye on the competition!
Old 29-06-2005 | 05:18 PM
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i might stick this post on the GTR site
Old 29-06-2005 | 05:21 PM
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rather than chat bollox on the internet he should get his fookin engine done
Old 30-06-2005 | 06:53 AM
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Oh man that shite was funny! They Ban steve, but not a word to Marco!! FPMSL
Old 30-06-2005 | 09:37 AM
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3 posts, spot the one that gets in instant 2 week ban:

Marco:
"I'm so glad we had 2 Ford Cossies in the top 5 against all these super bling techno jap cars ...big well done to the fords boys......OLD FORDS NEVER DIE THEY JUST GET BETTER .......lol........and be for your say garth lloyds escort is all singing and dancing rally car "it is not" sleep tight and don't let the bed bugs bite ..............psml...Marco"

Mike R:
"Got to be one of the funniest quotes I have ever read and for the wrong reasons .
High compression maybe good for race-fuel and 102RON standard fuel (Japan), but NOT on our crappy 97RON or even Optimax. Why do you think you don't see Skylines running big boost (accept with "rocket" fuel) ?
I think you will soon be educated by a few UK built Skyline engines soon (that won't always be going bang AND will have torque figures to match the bhp....).Mike R"

Steve (Itsmeagain):
"Harry didnt drive back tho"

Old 30-06-2005 | 10:37 AM
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Thing is I wasnt taking the piss outa harry, he didnt drive back FFS, the car was mashed, just a facto.

What people dont seem to get (them or you) is i dont give a fuck if the cars a Cossie, a Skyline, a Skoda, anything, if its a car I like, its a car I like, dont care about the make.

Cant be arsed to go back there either, its outlived its usefulness for info, and they not exactly my kind of people, bit pippip tallyho for me.
Main problem is unless you a sheep, agree with everything everyone says, and suck the cocks of the "famous" ones, you shunned really.
Its THAT arsey there almost all talk and info goes via PM as nobody wants to openly express their opinions.



Jus realised Mike is talking about me Ive told them the same, but they dont listen, they havent a clue about tuning so think their god awful engine specs and power bands are the best you can get
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"I think you will soon be educated by a few UK built Skyline engines soon (that won't always be going bang AND will have torque figures to match the bhp....).Mike R"
Old 30-06-2005 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
not exactly my kind of people, bit pippip tallyho for me.
"pippip tallyho" FPMSL
Old 30-06-2005 | 10:50 AM
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Old 30-06-2005 | 11:05 AM
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Steve,
Actually, I'm talking about someone else who will have their car finished THIS millenium and have it properly engine dynoed by someone that knows a bit about mapping (with T-sex ) .
Old 30-06-2005 | 11:09 AM
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PMSL @ pippip tallyho
Old 30-06-2005 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Steve,
Actually, I'm talking about someone else who will have their car finished THIS millenium and have it properly engine dynoed by someone that knows a bit about mapping (with T-sex ) .
Who is it then Mike??? Another PassFord user? Prey tell
Old 30-06-2005 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Stirling
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Steve,
Actually, I'm talking about someone else who will have their car finished THIS millenium and have it properly engine dynoed by someone that knows a bit about mapping (with T-sex ) .
Who is it then Mike??? Another PassFord user? Prey tell
Yeah Mike stop being such a tease! lol
Old 30-06-2005 | 11:16 AM
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Doug,
Sorry, but that information is on a "need to know" basis , and I'm sorry, but despite YOUR need to know, that's not good enough .
Old 30-06-2005 | 11:20 AM
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Sometimes trying to get info out of Mike is like getting blood out of a stome........and a very anaemic stone at that
Old 30-06-2005 | 11:22 AM
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Who cares, if the guy was on here and wanted everyone to know then he would tell us im sure.
Old 30-06-2005 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Who cares, if the guy was on here and wanted everyone to know then he would tell us im sure.
Well its not me as engine dynos are for figure chasers (esp running race fuel) wanting to push their motors to the max. A good conservative live map will do me fine.
Old 30-06-2005 | 11:26 AM
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Chip,
Exactly, not my place to say (and I've probably said too much already ).
Old 30-06-2005 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Steve,
Actually, I'm talking about someone else who will have their car finished THIS millenium and have it properly engine dynoed by someone that knows a bit about mapping (with T-sex ) .
Oh I know who you on about

Mine will be more powerful tho, and a just as good powerband IMO (due to 3litres and daddy of all turbos), and nearly as good managment (ie GEMS/AEM), but yes your right, sometimes in 3050
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Well its not me as engine dynos are for figure chasers (esp running race fuel) wanting to push their motors to the max. A good conservative live map will do me fine.
Actually engine dynos are for setting up the fuelling and ignition timing to perfection at maximum load and do NOT replace the live map process to sort out all the in-car transient fuelling etc . You should (IMO) be doing BOTH, especially on engines worth from £10-30k, makes the extra £750 engine dyno time seem a bit insignificant financially, in the big scheme of things .
Old 30-06-2005 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
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Well its not me as engine dynos are for figure chasers (esp running race fuel) wanting to push their motors to the max. A good conservative live map will do me fine.
Actually engine dynos are for setting up the fuelling and ignition timing to perfection at maximum load and do NOT replace the live map process to sort out all the in-car transient fuelling etc . You should (IMO) be doing BOTH, especially on engines worth from £10-30k, makes the extra £750 engine dyno time seem a bit insignificant financially, in the big scheme of things .
I wouldnt say they are for "setting up the fuelling and ignition timing to perfection at maximum load", thats just such a tiny part of it.

Most manufacturers use them largely for economy and part throttle timing etc, the WOT stuff is only a small part of it.
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Chip,
I'm talking about dynos for engine tuning not OE stuff .
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[quote MikeR]Actually engine dynos are for setting up the fuelling and ignition timing to perfection at maximum load and do NOT replace the live map process to sort out all the in-car transient fuelling etc.[/quote]

Mike,
Serious question......Is a dynopack (hub dyno) not a VERY good anternative to an engine dyno???? Followed by a live map session???
Old 30-06-2005 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Chip,
I'm talking about dynos for engine tuning not OE stuff .
Same applies though, a friend of mine spends a lot of time on the dyno without much venturing above half throttle, cause he builds a lot of road engines, and thats what matters on road engines.

All depends what you are trying to achieve.
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Originally Posted by Doug Stirling
Mike,
Serious question......Is a dynopack (hub dyno) not a VERY good anternative to an engine dyno???? Followed by a live map session???
Dyno, hub dyno or rolling road are all largely equivalent in the grand scheme of things for mapping an engine.
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
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Well its not me as engine dynos are for figure chasers (esp running race fuel) wanting to push their motors to the max. A good conservative live map will do me fine.
Actually engine dynos are for setting up the fuelling and ignition timing to perfection at maximum load and do NOT replace the live map process to sort out all the in-car transient fuelling etc . You should (IMO) be doing BOTH, especially on engines worth from £10-30k, makes the extra £750 engine dyno time seem a bit insignificant financially, in the big scheme of things .
I wouldnt say they are for "setting up the fuelling and ignition timing to perfection at maximum load", thats just such a tiny part of it.

Most manufacturers use them largely for economy and part throttle timing etc, the WOT stuff is only a small part of it.
Its not the expense (a pittance relatively) that made me decide to just have mine live mapped. Keith Cowie didnt have his motor engine dynoed and if its good enough for him its good enough for me plus I stand by my statement that engine dyno runs on high powered tuned cars are as much about getting the absolute highest figures by pushing motor to the max on race fuel. The artificial environment in a dyno cell bears minimal resemblence to the real world incar one. If I were aiming for 1000+ bhp I would possibly consider an engine dyno run but my car is going to be relatively conservative and mapped to run Optimax only being its a daily driver so a good live mapping session(s) will suffice.

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Originally Posted by chip-3door
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Mike,
Serious question......Is a dynopack (hub dyno) not a VERY good anternative to an engine dyno???? Followed by a live map session???
Dyno, hub dyno or rolling road are all largely equivalent in the grand scheme of things for mapping an engine.
What a crock of shit, only one of the three can give TRULY repeatable loads / temps, which is what you need when trying to get the best out of an engine. The trouble with anything in car, is getting consistant stable readings, as run after run will see air charge temps rise (that's without the inconsistancy of the clutch / transmission), which will completely affect the mapping process. Whereas with the engine dyno, the ACTs can be held at what-ever temperature you like for total consistancy / repeatability (and there are no varying transmission losses to contend with), which is essential if you are trying different things and want to see what affect they have.
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Dyno, hub dyno or rolling road are all largely equivalent in the grand scheme of things for mapping an engine.
Dynapack™ chassis dynamometers are such a radical departure from the stereotypical roller dyno that it really is in a class of its own. Most of the previous assumptions made about chassis dynos (the roller type) simply do not apply to the Dynapack™ series.

The Dynapack™ direct couples to the wheel hubs and applies a precisely controlled hydraulic load. This method of direct coupling plus its built-in strength means the Dynapack™ is always in control of the vehicle.

With the power of the Dynapack™ literally at your fingertips, you have complete control over the test and the demands placed on the vehicle.

Flexible data presentation and analysis is available direct from the Dynapack™ in seconds.

Dynapack™ chassis dynamometers are such a radical departure from the stereotypical roller dyno that it really is in a class of its own. Most of the previous assumptions made about chassis dynos (the roller type) simply do not apply to the Dynapack™ series.
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FPMSL at them being stuck up there won arses? I mean why after all they only got a jumped up Datsun not like they have a fook ASton MArtin or Enzo etc for fook sake In my way of looking at cars they are no better than the Ford boys, Scooby, Evo lot etc. Stuck up Fook sake some of them need to get reality check
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Mike, your points are qualitively correct, but not so much quantatively, a rolling road is a perfectly acceptable way of doing most tuning, the fact you cant hold the engine at every single imaginable exact inlet temperature etc isnt really that big a deal if you know what you are doing.

People have been mapping cars just fine for years like that, but it depends on what you are doing.

You should see the dyno room at toyota F1 mate, by comparison it makes the sort of setup you are reffering to look like a toy, so its all relative really.

For most roadgoing cars though, rolling road + a live map is perfectly adequete.

Get off your high horse, you sound like a prick sometimes the way you bang on about stuff that you dont even know a massive amount about!
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Doug,
So tell me please, exactly how does the Dynopak provide consistant stable ACTs ? As in, you dial in 40°C and that is what you get, run after run after run . Not 55°C one run, 65°C the next and so on and so forth.

This is especially important on the S8 ECU which has no charge air enrichment capability, so you want it mapped at the lowest temperature possible. That way, you can at least use the charge air retard to compensate for HIGH temps.


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