BMW M3 E36..... any good?
15-06-2005, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jameswrx
but I'd rather be labelled a boy racer than tosser
15-06-2005, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Originally Posted by jameswrx
but I'd rather be labelled a boy racer than tosser
15-06-2005, 07:59 PM
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It's funny that a lot of people seem to label bmw drivers tossers, I guess it comes from the rep thing? I'm pretty sure the hatred was spawned by other reps in mondeo's having to move out the way of a straight six on the motorway
I can honestly say I've never had so many filthy looks driving a car as when I had my M3
I love cars and enjoy seeing decent cars but people who have hatred for people driving certain cars are usually jealous loosers. When I see someone in a nice car I think 'ooh nice car' some people seem to think 'look at that c*nt' which roughly translates to 'I'd like a decent car but unless the dole office are handing them out I'll stick with my old shed and wait for the opportunity to open my door into your bodywork sometime'
I can honestly say I've never had so many filthy looks driving a car as when I had my M3
I love cars and enjoy seeing decent cars but people who have hatred for people driving certain cars are usually jealous loosers. When I see someone in a nice car I think 'ooh nice car' some people seem to think 'look at that c*nt' which roughly translates to 'I'd like a decent car but unless the dole office are handing them out I'll stick with my old shed and wait for the opportunity to open my door into your bodywork sometime'
15-06-2005, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by EIL132
Originally Posted by Oranoco
Originally Posted by jameswrx
but I'd rather be labelled a boy racer than tosser
Anyways I'm virtually married now so have no interest in picking up chicks. The wife would kill me As for looks we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one
16-06-2005, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
I can appreciate the M3 is a tool but I just don't like them. I've never been into BMW's (bar the original E30 M3). That doesn't mean I don't respect them as I do.
When we went for a new car after the demise of the 2i we could have had a BMW. Because of the badge and it's image of "tosser" we chose an Audi instead as we felt it to be a more understated car. And before anybody mentions it I'm well aware of the "boy racer" image of my RST but I'd rather be labelled a boy racer than tosser.
Just my thoughts so please don't anybody take offence as that's not my intention. I was asked so I answered
When we went for a new car after the demise of the 2i we could have had a BMW. Because of the badge and it's image of "tosser" we chose an Audi instead as we felt it to be a more understated car. And before anybody mentions it I'm well aware of the "boy racer" image of my RST but I'd rather be labelled a boy racer than tosser.
Just my thoughts so please don't anybody take offence as that's not my intention. I was asked so I answered
everyone is entitled to their opinion Did you know the 3 series BMW outsells even the Mondeo
Personally I don't think BMW drivers are tossers either, think they are people with fine taste in cars
16-06-2005, 08:24 AM
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Sorry Steve - I wholeheartedly share Lee's opinions on this.
I used to do the whole BMWs are for wankers, Boxsters are for hairdressers etc etc thing too, but funnily enough, I'd never driven them.
Now that I've driven these cars, I have had to eat humble pie 50 times over. In fact, one of the best drives I've ever had was in a 318iS down a country lane. Just kept it on the boil and it was awesome fun! Parked it up in town, and actually had pride getting out the car, as opposed to embarassment had I been parking an 80s boy racer Ford in a city car park.
My eyes are well and truly open - loyalty to a particular marque means you can be sooooo blinkered to the benefits of others. Just remember, you've got to see it from the other side - BMW drivers probably think that your car is just driven by some chavved up tosser (although we know that's partly untrue ), but they don't know that might not be the case.
Let's be honest though - who looks more the tosser - the guy tearing round the ring road is his modded RST, or the guy driving his "drivers car" M3? The beemer has the rep because of a lot of misguided nonsense, whereas the RST probably acquires the reputation as a lot of people who drive them are complete wankers!
I used to do the whole BMWs are for wankers, Boxsters are for hairdressers etc etc thing too, but funnily enough, I'd never driven them.
Now that I've driven these cars, I have had to eat humble pie 50 times over. In fact, one of the best drives I've ever had was in a 318iS down a country lane. Just kept it on the boil and it was awesome fun! Parked it up in town, and actually had pride getting out the car, as opposed to embarassment had I been parking an 80s boy racer Ford in a city car park.
My eyes are well and truly open - loyalty to a particular marque means you can be sooooo blinkered to the benefits of others. Just remember, you've got to see it from the other side - BMW drivers probably think that your car is just driven by some chavved up tosser (although we know that's partly untrue
), but they don't know that might not be the case. Let's be honest though - who looks more the tosser - the guy tearing round the ring road is his modded RST, or the guy driving his "drivers car" M3? The beemer has the rep because of a lot of misguided nonsense, whereas the RST probably acquires the reputation as a lot of people who drive them are complete wankers!
16-06-2005, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jameswrx
It's funny that a lot of people seem to label bmw drivers tossers, I guess it comes from the rep thing? I'm pretty sure the hatred was spawned by other reps in mondeo's having to move out the way of a straight six on the motorway
but it was probably reps in Sierras or vauxhall Cavs
16-06-2005, 11:07 AM
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thanks for the replies guys 
not certain that i'm getting rid of the cos - depends if i fall in love with again after a trip to msd.
but i have had it a while now...
dumb question time - i know NOTHING about bm's.
3 models to choose from. 3.0 3.2 and 3.2 evo - is that right?
anybodyknow bhp or 0-60times on these.
so then the 3.0 is almost as good as the evo (is the evo the one up from the 3.2?)
the 3.0 is 5 speed and 3.2 & 3.2 evo are 6 speed?
i take it nearly all have leather & aircon?
what about traction control? do they all have it?
cheers dudes!
not certain that i'm getting rid of the cos - depends if i fall in love with again after a trip to msd.
but i have had it a while now...
dumb question time - i know NOTHING about bm's.
3 models to choose from. 3.0 3.2 and 3.2 evo - is that right?
anybodyknow bhp or 0-60times on these.
so then the 3.0 is almost as good as the evo (is the evo the one up from the 3.2?)
the 3.0 is 5 speed and 3.2 & 3.2 evo are 6 speed?
i take it nearly all have leather & aircon?
what about traction control? do they all have it?
cheers dudes!
16-06-2005, 11:12 AM
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3.0 and 3.2 Evo mate. Just 2 models... with either coupe or Saloon body shells
and stop asking about 0-60 times... you aren't a 17 year old buying a Nova!
and stop asking about 0-60 times... you aren't a 17 year old buying a Nova!
16-06-2005, 11:36 AM
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Rob, i have both a stage 3 3dr and a m3 evo,with optional alloy doors and mag wheels to save weight,it,s the best car i have ever driven out of the box,does 27 mpg,is reliable doesnt use oil or head gaskets ,it,s that good that if i had bought it before i had ever had a cossie there wouldnt be a cossie in my garage know,and no they dont have traction control but are a lot more controlable than a cossie
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16-06-2005, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Sorry Steve - I wholeheartedly share Lee's opinions on this.
I used to do the whole BMWs are for wankers, Boxsters are for hairdressers etc etc thing too, but funnily enough, I'd never driven them.
Now that I've driven these cars, I have had to eat humble pie 50 times over. In fact, one of the best drives I've ever had was in a 318iS down a country lane. Just kept it on the boil and it was awesome fun! Parked it up in town, and actually had pride getting out the car, as opposed to embarassment had I been parking an 80s boy racer Ford in a city car park.
My eyes are well and truly open - loyalty to a particular marque means you can be sooooo blinkered to the benefits of others. Just remember, you've got to see it from the other side - BMW drivers probably think that your car is just driven by some chavved up tosser (although we know that's partly untrue ), but they don't know that might not be the case.
Let's be honest though - who looks more the tosser - the guy tearing round the ring road is his modded RST, or the guy driving his "drivers car" M3? The beemer has the rep because of a lot of misguided nonsense, whereas the RST probably acquires the reputation as a lot of people who drive them are complete wankers!
I used to do the whole BMWs are for wankers, Boxsters are for hairdressers etc etc thing too, but funnily enough, I'd never driven them.
Now that I've driven these cars, I have had to eat humble pie 50 times over. In fact, one of the best drives I've ever had was in a 318iS down a country lane. Just kept it on the boil and it was awesome fun! Parked it up in town, and actually had pride getting out the car, as opposed to embarassment had I been parking an 80s boy racer Ford in a city car park.
My eyes are well and truly open - loyalty to a particular marque means you can be sooooo blinkered to the benefits of others. Just remember, you've got to see it from the other side - BMW drivers probably think that your car is just driven by some chavved up tosser (although we know that's partly untrue
), but they don't know that might not be the case. Let's be honest though - who looks more the tosser - the guy tearing round the ring road is his modded RST, or the guy driving his "drivers car" M3? The beemer has the rep because of a lot of misguided nonsense, whereas the RST probably acquires the reputation as a lot of people who drive them are complete wankers!
BTW I know 3 people with E36 M3's, a 2door M3, a 4door M3, and a 2door M3EVO, and they all lovely cars, but a silver 2door M3EVO with full black leather does it for me.
Such a quality all round car, looks good, handles good, posh, quick, everything really.
16-06-2005, 12:24 PM
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To be fair to Oranoco, he isn't saying the M3's are bad cars at all. He totally realises how good they are just he has this issue that they have a bad image... I do still find that weird from an RST owner!!
BUT he did explain he would rather be thought of as a Boyracer than a Tosser.... which is VERY weird if you ask me!
I don't care really what people think, I'd just rather drive a nice modern fast and classy car than a nasty old money pit shed
BUT he did explain he would rather be thought of as a Boyracer than a Tosser.... which is VERY weird if you ask me!
I don't care really what people think, I'd just rather drive a nice modern fast and classy car than a nasty old money pit shed
16-06-2005, 12:33 PM
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Thats ok mate
If you really want to thank me, maybe you could pay back the rest of the money I lent you to buy your nice fast modern and classy car
If you really want to thank me, maybe you could pay back the rest of the money I lent you to buy your nice fast modern and classy car
16-06-2005, 12:47 PM
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I own both a E30 325Is Mtech which is on an f plate and an E46 328ci se which is on a V plate.
The E30 is used for track, and playing with. Is completely stripped out awaiting cage, new suspension and a set of decent brakes....
The E46 is the day to day car. Has full beige leather, 17" wheels, BMW Areo kit, all the buttons from the latest space ship....Infact for the money i payed i dont hink i could have found anything better...
And belive it or not i used to have the same attitude...."Wanky Beemer drivers" But i realised they dont fly out the factory for no reason.So i decided to road test one, FOOK how wrong was i, bought two as soon as i could.
And since then i wont judge anything till i have had ago in it....
The E30 is used for track, and playing with. Is completely stripped out awaiting cage, new suspension and a set of decent brakes....
The E46 is the day to day car. Has full beige leather, 17" wheels, BMW Areo kit, all the buttons from the latest space ship....Infact for the money i payed i dont hink i could have found anything better...
And belive it or not i used to have the same attitude...."Wanky Beemer drivers" But i realised they dont fly out the factory for no reason.So i decided to road test one, FOOK how wrong was i, bought two as soon as i could.
And since then i wont judge anything till i have had ago in it....
16-06-2005, 01:08 PM
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Cheers Porkie.
Something that i only just realised tho.
I used to live in Peterborough and used to spend time in Harveys. I couldnt get it in to my head why if he could make a cossie go so fast was he driving around in a Porsche turbo......... 
Now i know.
Maybe its a natural progression, kinda like waking up from a long sleep. You get a RS, make friends with other RS owners, Talk on a predominatly RS forum, Go to RS Show through the year....Maybe you just become so strangled by the whole RS scene you get comfortable and see everything outside it as inferior and so never want to try different things....
Or i culd be talking aload of shite and need to get on with the flooring in my bathroom which is why i took the day off....
Something that i only just realised tho.
I used to live in Peterborough and used to spend time in Harveys. I couldnt get it in to my head why if he could make a cossie go so fast was he driving around in a Porsche turbo.........
Now i know.
Maybe its a natural progression, kinda like waking up from a long sleep. You get a RS, make friends with other RS owners, Talk on a predominatly RS forum, Go to RS Show through the year....Maybe you just become so strangled by the whole RS scene you get comfortable and see everything outside it as inferior and so never want to try different things....
Or i culd be talking aload of shite and need to get on with the flooring in my bathroom which is why i took the day off....
16-06-2005, 01:13 PM
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I just want to point out that I have actually owned a BMW albeit briefly. I just didn't get on with it. I own an Audi at the moment which is a great car but I find it boring and it's being sold to fund a second RST.
As I said I'm not saying they are bad cars as they are not. They are very good cars which I said from my first pst on the matter.
Itsmeagain: Ford Blinkers have nothing to do with it. It's just my personal preference and thoughts which I like anybody else is intitled to. I buy a car for myself and I'm happy with my choice. I could have a Cossie, M3 or Impreza tomorrow if I so chose but I'm more than happy with what I have.
If people that have the M3 are happy then good on them. What one person loves another hates. That's just life
As I said I'm not saying they are bad cars as they are not. They are very good cars which I said from my first pst on the matter.
Itsmeagain: Ford Blinkers have nothing to do with it. It's just my personal preference and thoughts which I like anybody else is intitled to. I buy a car for myself and I'm happy with my choice. I could have a Cossie, M3 or Impreza tomorrow if I so chose but I'm more than happy with what I have.
If people that have the M3 are happy then good on them. What one person loves another hates. That's just life
16-06-2005, 01:21 PM
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Oranoco, i agree.
But why is it that Non-BMW owners think BMW owners are wankers?
But why is it that Non-BMW owners think BMW owners are wankers?
16-06-2005, 01:25 PM
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Furry Muff......We are all entitled to our own opinion, what does get to me is when people slag something or dislike something without first trying it themselves.
16-06-2005, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeRST
Furry Muff......We are all entitled to our own opinion, what does get to me is when people slag something or dislike something without first trying it themselves.
16-06-2005, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
Originally Posted by JoeRST
Furry Muff......We are all entitled to our own opinion, what does get to me is when people slag something or dislike something without first trying it themselves.
16-06-2005, 01:47 PM
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Id like one for my next car i realy like them.
Had a passenger lap round the ring in may in a 2 year old one and was really impressed by the car.
My saph was slightly quicker in a straight line when we had a quick blast up some german road.
Had a passenger lap round the ring in may in a 2 year old one and was really impressed by the car.
My saph was slightly quicker in a straight line when we had a quick blast up some german road.