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Old 10-05-2005, 07:08 PM
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aint started it since last weekend
went to go out in it tonight and its just turning over,,not firing at all
heard the fuel pump buzz up,so that seems ok,but i did notice my engine mangement light stayed on if you left the ing on,,but cant remember if that goes out only after the car is started or not
starter motor?
Old 10-05-2005, 07:14 PM
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try turning ignition on/off very quickly, if it is starter it mite unstick it, or rock car forward and back with it in gear then try starting. prob useless info but hey!
Old 10-05-2005, 07:18 PM
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Hope nothing major m8

But i would of thought dodgy starter motor or maybe a dodgy battery?

My dads corolla had a similar problem, turned over ok but wouldnt start, sometimes fast clicking sound, put a meter on it and wasnt chruning out enough voltage.
Replaced the battery and all was good after that.
Old 10-05-2005, 07:20 PM
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If it's turning over the starter should be ok. Have you checked for a spark???
Old 10-05-2005, 07:20 PM
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its a new battery on it benn,,,gets dis-connected aswell
wheres my hammer
Old 10-05-2005, 07:21 PM
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Have you got petrol in the tank?
Old 10-05-2005, 07:22 PM
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Inthat case then, best check youve got a spark etc.
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nope,,,aint checked fook all yet
came in and had a fag,pmsl
me and mechanics dont go together dude
Old 10-05-2005, 07:24 PM
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loads of petrol

best way to check for a spark?
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I had an Astra SRi a few years ago that the fuel pump 'buzzed' when you turned the ignition on, but just turned over and over. Turned out to be a dodgy fuel pump relay. You can usually test them by giving it a whack with a blunt instument while someone turns it over.
Old 10-05-2005, 07:28 PM
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pull a plug lead out and attach a spark plug to it and then hold the lead with some rubber handled pliers (just in case lol) and put the plug near the head or something (cylinder head not your head ) and get someone to turn it over and you should see a spark
Old 10-05-2005, 07:31 PM
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Rubber handled pliers or put your marigolds on.
Old 10-05-2005, 07:38 PM
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so what if i have a spark,lol

want a list of things to check
Old 10-05-2005, 07:40 PM
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check sensor connectors are securely clipped on
check ecu multiplug is connected properly
check the length of your homo leg wear
after cranking and returning key to pos 2 does ecu light flash?
Old 10-05-2005, 07:48 PM
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or best option............................................ ...............................Ring ya m8 Karl
Old 10-05-2005, 07:52 PM
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mine did this a couple of months ago turned out to be crank sensor.
Old 10-05-2005, 08:07 PM
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sensors seem connected on ok matt
plus ecu light dont flash once i crank it over and return it to pos 2

just got to wait till the missus is home to check if i have a spark
Old 10-05-2005, 08:15 PM
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get one of the kids to do it
Old 10-05-2005, 08:27 PM
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right,,unplugged one of the leads and connected a spare spark plug to it and ground it out on the engine,,,,no spark

reasons?,,,lol
Old 10-05-2005, 08:28 PM
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fucked coil?
Old 10-05-2005, 08:30 PM
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its a group A one on there smit,,,but could be
bit of a pain to put the old one back on and try it as i cut the ends off to make the group a one fit
Old 10-05-2005, 08:39 PM
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Could be the kingpin lead from the coil to the dizzy - if you have a spare one, try changing that.
Old 10-05-2005, 08:47 PM
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crank sensor!!!!!
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you still reckon its that ian?

where the fook is the crank sensor for a start,lol
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nah its only got to be something silly rudey,just got to find out what,lol
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cps is the sensor that should be .6mm (i think) away from the lug on the front pulley (bottom round thing on front of engine to you pops )
Old 10-05-2005, 08:54 PM
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i came home one night parked up and left the car til next day.

tried to start it just kept turning over no spark. checked a few things out with multimeter and everything checked out ok, only thing left was crank sensor so i changed it and it fired first time.

crank sensor located just below your bottom pulley.
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maybe the ignition amp's goosed it's bolted to the inner wing on the passenger side m8
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right whos got a spare i can borrow to check,lol
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cancel that,,,someone come round with a whole cossie to check everything,lol
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Originally Posted by POPEYE
cancel that,,,someone come round with a whole cossie to check everything,lol
Old 10-05-2005, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by POPEYE
cancel that,,,someone come round with a whole cossie to check everything,lol
and??
Old 10-05-2005, 10:37 PM
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did you get fake tan in the fuel ?

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if thers plenty of fuel then its not the ignition amplifier as when this goes no fuel or spark will appear

check earths on ECU (iirc )

crank position sensor as said above
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I'd check the kinglead from the coil to the dizzy cap first pops, it might have worked loose.

If it's not that, it could be - A fooked ECU

The coil is fooked

The CPS (it may have a layer of shite on it so give it a clean )

Ignition Amplifier Fooked

Dizzy Cap and/or Rotor Arm Fooked

Phase Sensor Fooked

OR Your alarm/immobiliser might have gone tits up - Fooked

Good Luck
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will have another nose around tonight with it
Old 11-05-2005, 07:42 AM
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pops if ya wanna test some stuff give me a shout and ill take em off the cossie and bring em over so ya can test em
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CPS is a good place to start!

My escort used to chew em all the time!


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