2wd ? RS7's Big Brakes ? No Problem :D
14-04-2005, 10:42 PM
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yup
well 325mm
alloy bells and rotors
with a 10mm spacer built into the bell thus the longer wheel studs
i have also had to remove the balancing weights from the inside of my rim too
new tyres being fitted saturday so will get them to balance them up hopefully putting the weights in diff place
well 325mm
alloy bells and rotors
with a 10mm spacer built into the bell thus the longer wheel studs
i have also had to remove the balancing weights from the inside of my rim too
new tyres being fitted saturday so will get them to balance them up hopefully putting the weights in diff place
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15-04-2005, 08:17 AM
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i've got 330's on mine behind rs7's. 
custom caliper brackets and mods to standard 4 pot calipers to clear rims (by a gnat's cock). during the fit up process, i also lost a weight from the inner rim so have a bit of vibration from that at the moment, but braking feel and performance is very good. one of the best mods to the car so far (along with making the abs work at the sametime by replacing front sensors)
custom caliper brackets and mods to standard 4 pot calipers to clear rims (by a gnat's cock). during the fit up process, i also lost a weight from the inner rim so have a bit of vibration from that at the moment, but braking feel and performance is very good. one of the best mods to the car so far (along with making the abs work at the sametime by replacing front sensors)
15-04-2005, 09:29 AM
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The only thing I would be concerned about was that with such big spacers, the wheel may not be sitting on the centre location ring (if it is, then no worries ).
If it isn't, then you run the risk of the wheel moving around on the wheel studs, which then ovalises the holes, which then makes the wheel move around even more and the consequences of that don't bare think about
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). If it isn't, then you run the risk of the wheel moving around on the wheel studs, which then ovalises the holes, which then makes the wheel move around even more and the consequences of that don't bare think about
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15-04-2005, 09:33 AM
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Re: 2wd ? RS7's Big Brakes ? No Problem :D
Originally Posted by CraigN
Ł50 says Craig fitted that 1 to the off side!
another Ł50 says he didnt do the bolts up tight enough!
15-04-2005, 09:52 AM
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Craigs kit was supplied by me. its Ł900
Mike , if that was the case then they wouldn't make the centre spigot rings on some wheels out of plastic as these would fall apart , if the wheel nuts are torqued up properly there is no way they will move as the nuts are tapered , so when you tighten the nuts up this is what centralises everything up.
I have run this sort of setup on rallycars in the past with no problems , if there was going to be a problem it would have shown up on them
Cheers Ian
Mike , if that was the case then they wouldn't make the centre spigot rings on some wheels out of plastic as these would fall apart , if the wheel nuts are torqued up properly there is no way they will move as the nuts are tapered , so when you tighten the nuts up this is what centralises everything up.
I have run this sort of setup on rallycars in the past with no problems , if there was going to be a problem it would have shown up on them
Cheers Ian
15-04-2005, 09:57 AM
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if the wheel nuts are torqued up properly
Craig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!
Get the air gun on em m8! u know what your like for doing things up! u probably put them in finger tight!
15-04-2005, 10:05 AM
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aye ians a top bloke
he stayed late untill 7pm so i could pick them up
there not full on yet (not plumbed up)
i will be oding that tonight as i need a big hammer to bash my old wheel studs out
lewis bring those bits round tonight and i will let you use my laptop on the weekend to use your ebay
he stayed late untill 7pm so i could pick them up
there not full on yet (not plumbed up)
i will be oding that tonight as i need a big hammer to bash my old wheel studs out
lewis bring those bits round tonight and i will let you use my laptop on the weekend to use your ebay
15-04-2005, 10:10 AM
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Ian,
Even plastic spiggot rings stop the wheel from being able to move
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I only commented, as I have personally witnessed the effect such a failure I described happen at Snetterton on a 3dr on Rondells with spacers on the rear that didn't allow the wheel to sit on the centre spiggot. It completely destroyed the wheel and luckily he came in before it damaged the bodywork / snapped the studs.
Suffice to say, he never ran spacers again... The spiggot rings are there for a reason.
Personally, I would be making the bells up with a spiggot ring, and then machining the wheel to accept the (obviously necessary) larger size / doing without the plastic insert - job done.
Even plastic spiggot rings stop the wheel from being able to move
.I only commented, as I have personally witnessed the effect such a failure I described happen at Snetterton on a 3dr on Rondells with spacers on the rear that didn't allow the wheel to sit on the centre spiggot. It completely destroyed the wheel and luckily he came in before it damaged the bodywork / snapped the studs.
Suffice to say, he never ran spacers again... The spiggot rings are there for a reason
.Personally, I would be making the bells up with a spiggot ring, and then machining the wheel to accept the (obviously necessary) larger size / doing without the plastic insert - job done
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15-04-2005, 10:12 AM
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mike i have allready thought of this after a conversation with you before
i have inserts inside my wheel that gets rid of the grooved edge and means the wheel sits tight on the spigot ring
i have inserts inside my wheel that gets rid of the grooved edge and means the wheel sits tight on the spigot ring
15-04-2005, 10:13 AM
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I have no way of gettin em down there lol! I aint puttin them in the jap crap!
PLus Im goin down the pub!
I will speak to Dan see if he will take me down in the van! but fook knows what time he will get home! i will call him in a bit!
PLus Im goin down the pub!
I will speak to Dan see if he will take me down in the van! but fook knows what time he will get home! i will call him in a bit!
15-04-2005, 10:15 AM
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on these wheels the bit the spigot ring sits in the hole has countersunk edges
i have removed this so they sit tight on
thats what i meant to say
i have removed this so they sit tight on
thats what i meant to say
15-04-2005, 10:20 AM
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Mike , do you honestly think that if the weight of the car can be held up on the plastic ring if the wheel was loose , it would brake up , the only way a wheel can move on the studs is if they aren't tight enough , then yes with the wheel moving around it will damage the holes , you would then have to either change the inserts in them or scrap them , if someone fits the cheap crappy wheel spacers then the wheel may not sit flat as the spacers are never totally flat , so this could cause problems , but the builders disc cutter I have leaves a nice flat surface ( this is a joke before anyone thinks that is what I use )
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15-04-2005, 10:24 AM
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lewis im a busy man
i have new brakes to finish fiting
the mrs has allready had a massive go at me about blowing her out
+ a new computer game came today
i gotta find time to play it
i have new brakes to finish fiting
the mrs has allready had a massive go at me about blowing her out
+ a new computer game came today
i gotta find time to play it
will pay for my beer tongiht 
15-04-2005, 11:02 AM
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ive got to have my wheels rebalanced tomorrow but im getting new tyres anyway
i had to take off my current balancing weights as they hit the calliper
ive got to have my wheels rebalanced tomorrow but im getting new tyres anyway
i had to take off my current balancing weights as they hit the calliper
15-04-2005, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RobS
i ran the same set up pn mine for a year with rs 7's, only issue i had
was with getting the wheel balance properly.
was with getting the wheel balance properly.
It may not have anything to do with the wheels requiring balancing, it may be because the spiggot ring also centres the wheel and if it doesn't have this, you can put the wheel on ever so slightly off centre, which causes the same feeling as a wheel being out of balance.... I only know this from experience as well (with elcheapo spacers, it just takes a few goes to centre the wheels)
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15-04-2005, 11:46 AM
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Sorry mike I disagree ( behind the bike sheads now mofo 
) the taper on the wheel nuts will centralise the wheels , but I agree with el cheapo wheel spacers causing problems , as they are usually cast they are never truely flat , but my bells are
) the taper on the wheel nuts will centralise the wheels , but I agree with el cheapo wheel spacers causing problems , as they are usually cast they are never truely flat , but my bells are
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Rob,
It may not have anything to do with the wheels requiring balancing, it may be because the spiggot ring also centres the wheel and if it doesn't have this, you can put the wheel on ever so slightly off centre, which causes the same feeling as a wheel being out of balance.... I only know this from experience as well (with elcheapo spacers, it just takes a few goes to centre the wheels
It may not have anything to do with the wheels requiring balancing, it may be because the spiggot ring also centres the wheel and if it doesn't have this, you can put the wheel on ever so slightly off centre, which causes the same feeling as a wheel being out of balance.... I only know this from experience as well (with elcheapo spacers, it just takes a few goes to centre the wheels
got comp mos now and there fine cos there plenty of room for weights