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Old Jan 14, 2017 | 04:01 PM
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Default Anyone used SPL? surface processing.

As above, quite a few fords have gone through I'd be surprised if someone on here hasn't used them, there work looks good but was wondering what kind of prices people have paid?

http://www.surfaceprocessing.co.uk/for-cars.html
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Old Jan 14, 2017 | 05:47 PM
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Back in 2010 I had my escort done, cost then was just under Ł2000 for the dip and e coat. Prices are bound to have gone up since then!!
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Old Jan 14, 2017 | 05:53 PM
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Thanks mate, that's not a bad price I guess for what your getting, I'm guessing you was happy with the work?
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Yes I was happy, by comparison a couple of years ago I had a similar escort sand blasted and lead primed and that cost around Ł800

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In a word Do not do it.

I work for a high end resto company and seen the results.
Acid in seams will rot in no time at all. It bleeds out over time and causes hassle.
We now blast all our cars.

Google results will tell you more.
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Old Jan 14, 2017 | 06:54 PM
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Thanks black count.

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In a word Do not do it.

I work for a high end resto company and seen the results.
Acid in seams will rot in no time at all. It bleeds out over time and causes hassle.
We now blast all our cars.

Google results will tell you more.
Iv only just started looking at it but they do say the neutralise the acid? What about removing the media from everywhere? How do you do that? Thanks.
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Iv only just started looking at it but they do say the neutralise the acid? What about removing the media from everywhere? How do you do that? Thanks.
It takes time on a spit blowing it out etc. But we do seal as many holes in chassis as we can.

Its your choice. But do your own research first.
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It takes time on a spit blowing it out etc. But we do seal as many holes in chassis as we can.

Its your choice. But do your own research first.
That's the problem, I wouldn't be 100% happy unless the car was treated inside all the nooks and crannies, what do you do in places like box sections and inside chassis legs and rails?
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Old Jan 14, 2017 | 07:15 PM
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Try pro strip heard nothing but good things and they are cheaper than spl , strip and priming was around Ł1400
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Old Jan 14, 2017 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by costina
In a word Do not do it.

I work for a high end resto company and seen the results.
Acid in seams will rot in no time at all. It bleeds out over time and causes hassle.
We now blast all our cars.

Google results will tell you more.
Totally agree. I too work in high end restoration and have see the same. Never get a shell chemically dipped.
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I'm sure there used to be a guy on here who had his Capri ruined by them and ended up buying a new shell.


You need to be a member to view this link, but it's worth joining as it's a cool site.


Escort van problems after dipping


http://www.turbosport.co.uk/showthre...t=#post2491482
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Old Jan 15, 2017 | 09:09 PM
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Link worked fine mark without me being a member, lovely escort van that is, I didn't realise acid dipping was so bad.
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Old Jan 17, 2017 | 11:53 AM
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Thanks guys and thanks mark, that link is enough for me to disregard dipping, probably save some pennies in the long run too which is great.

instead of making another thread, I'm currently overhaulling all the suspension and brakes, I have subframes that need sorting, I've been reading up on it, and I've decided tetrosyl black chassis paint for top coat, but unsure on a good primer and what would be best to use inside?
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Try enviro strip they bake paint off , dip in acid then dip in neutraliser and then dip the car in water to wash all the seams out etc , then fully prime the car in zinc coating. It's who fuzz Townsend uses on car sos and they do a lot of work for m sport to, around Ł1600 all in.
Or you could try retropower , they wet blast , fully dry car out , then they offer a hot galv coating that actually melts zinc in what looks like a blow torch on the end of a spray gun and is paint directly on to the bare metal.
The only major thing that would bother me about all of these companies apart from blasting is they would all strip the inside of the box sections etc far down the car like chassis rails etc , how does primer get back in again as I understand it's not like powder coating that electrically charged.
Surely it would be better to dip the car in primer even half way up so all rails etc are recoated and then spray the rest of the car in primer. The body shop could then smooth the dipped primer if there's any imperfections on the panels that would be seen on the outside of the car.

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I used epoxy mastic for base coat and the some 2 pack satin for final finish on my hubs etc.


http://www.rust.co.uk/epoxy-mastic-r...-paint/c28117/


All bare metal surfaces on the shell I use custom epoxy primer as it's non porous


http://www.rust.co.uk/custom-421-rus...primer/c32736/





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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark V8
I used epoxy mastic for base coat and the some 2 pack satin for final finish on my hubs etc.


http://www.rust.co.uk/epoxy-mastic-r...-paint/c28117/


All bare metal surfaces on the shell I use custom epoxy primer as it's non porous


http://www.rust.co.uk/custom-421-rus...primer/c32736/
Thanks mark, I've already got the 121 epoxy, I bought it for the inner wheel arch's, was the coverage good with the paint? I might get the primer too then, I bought the 121 epoxy paint and I bought some converter too as they have both been highly recommended.

I also have some cans of dinitrol iirc as it won practical classics cavity wax on their 3 year test.

Them parts have come up well have you used the suspension parts? Have they stood up well being on the road?

I picked these up in a bit of a sorry state and gave myself a project over Christmas...
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After a fair few man hours stripping them down completely and rebuilding them, I ended up with these...

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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 05:47 PM
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Thanks Paul for your input too, I'm not stripping the car yet so just doing research first as I only want to do it once I'll have to check out all the different options yourself and others have mentioned and see if I can find owners that have had there car a few years since being done and see if the finish has lasted well enough, my only concern is the nooks and crannies being protected as the nature of them means they will also be a pain to repair if the did start to rust out.
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Coverage was vey good with a spray gun, I haven't tried brush painting it.


Not fitted them to the car yet, so can't comment on how it bears up.
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Originally Posted by Mark V8
I used epoxy mastic for base coat and the some 2 pack satin for final finish on my hubs etc.


http://www.rust.co.uk/epoxy-mastic-r...-paint/c28117/


All bare metal surfaces on the shell I use custom epoxy primer as it's non porous


http://www.rust.co.uk/custom-421-rus...primer/c32736/














Bloody good work man
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